move pagefile.sys to another location

G

George Valkov

How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another location.
For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys
 
G

Gordon

George Valkov said:
How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another location.
For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys


Why on earth would you want to put the page file within either your Windows
folder or the restore folder?
 
R

rtk

I don't believe you can have a path for a pagefile, you can only pick which
drive it is on.
 
G

Gordon

Gordon said:
Why on earth would you want to put the page file within either your
Windows folder or the restore folder?


Sorry it's not the system restore folder - but I think you'll find it's
inaccessible, anyway.
 
F

forty-nine

George Valkov said:
How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another location.
For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys


You can move it to another drive or partition...but either way it will be in
the root dir
 
G

Gerry

George

Why would you put the pagefile in the System Volume Information folder?
Why does the path concern you?

The Article in this link contains a very detailed explanation of Virtual
Memory:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

On most computers the Windows Operating System is placed on the C drive
along with the pagefile. You can however, place the page file on another
drive, or if you wish have a page file on all or some other hard drives
or partitions of a drive. To ascertain where your pagefile is located
select right click on your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory,
Change. The first partition on a second drive is a favoured location.
Howver, you need to keep a minimum 50 mb partition on C. A dedicated
pagefile partition without other folders and files intermingled is the
best solution.

Separate pagefiles are a controversial topic so be prepared for others
to chip in with differing views.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Gerry

Gordon

The System Volume Information folder does contain restore points. You
were right the first time.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

George Valkov

| | > | >> How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another
location.
| >> For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
| >> C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
| >> C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
| > Why on earth would you want to put the page file within either your
| > Windows folder or the restore folder?
| >
|
|
| Sorry it's not the system restore folder - but I think you'll find it's
| inaccessible, anyway.
|
|



Hello Gordon! Thanks for stopping by. Here is a reason:

dir /a /b s:\
$Recycle.Bin
ATI MMC
RECYCLER
System Volume Information
pagefile.sys



How does it feel with so much system items? There are 5. This is a large
volume, that I have assigned as a primary workspace for my work. How would
You feel If someone puts a lot of garbage in your workspace? And You have to
delete it every now and then!


Oh and about "System Volume Information"... I've granted my self "Full
control", so I can do whatever I want with it.


George Valkov
 
K

Kerry Brown

George Valkov said:
How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another location.
For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys


I haven't tested this in Vista so make sure you have a backup before trying
this.

The following KB article outlines how to setup multiple page files in
different directories. You could modify this procedure to use whatever
directory you want.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740

That said I think you're crazy to use a system directory.
 
T

Tie Various

hello

I do not know if its possible, and I would advise against it.
You can move the pagefile to another partition or drive, but as far as I
know not another folder.
It needs to be in the root.

I can however understand why you want to move it.
Perhaps because having so many things in the way is annoying...

I too get destracted and here is how I have gotten around this:

I make everything I dont want to be visible into a hidden file or folder
by giving it the hidden attribute.
Then when and if I want to find the info I use an easy - handy shell
extension
that you can hide-unhide your items with a right click.

Of course in your case the pagefile is already a hidden file since it is a
system file.

Get the shell extenstion here ( it works under vista fine, i have tested it)
http://www.msfn.org/board/ipb_seo.p...ts_installers/HiddenFilesToggle_3.0_Setup.exe

if you want to see other handy extensions see here:

http://www.msfn.org/board/Here_s_shell_extensions_t52524.html
 
G

Gerry

George

Which operating system is this post meant to be about? Windows XP or
Vista?

"Oh and about "System Volume Information"... I've granted my self "Full
control", so I can do whatever I want with it."

Leave the contents alone or you will soon have major problems. The way
to manage System Restore does not involve tinkering with the contents of
this folder.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Gerry

Kerry

George is posting to Vista and Windows XP newsgroups. I am not sure
whether you have noticed this? I didn't at first.

It is possible for Vista and Windows XP to share a pagefile in a
dedicated pagefile partition. This obviously saves disk space. I think
saving disk space is George's objective but he has not so far said this.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
J

John John

George said:
| | > | >> How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another
location.
| >> For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
| >> C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
| >> C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
| > Why on earth would you want to put the page file within either your
| > Windows folder or the restore folder?
| >
|
|
| Sorry it's not the system restore folder - but I think you'll find it's
| inaccessible, anyway.
|
|



Hello Gordon! Thanks for stopping by. Here is a reason:

dir /a /b s:\
$Recycle.Bin
ATI MMC
RECYCLER
System Volume Information
pagefile.sys



How does it feel with so much system items? There are 5. This is a large
volume, that I have assigned as a primary workspace for my work. How would
You feel If someone puts a lot of garbage in your workspace? And You have to
delete it every now and then!


Oh and about "System Volume Information"... I've granted my self "Full
control", so I can do whatever I want with it.


George Valkov

Are you running on XP or on Vista? Or are you asking for both operating
systems?

On the DIR command don't you mean dir /a:s /b?

As for "If someone puts a lot of garbage in your workspace..." there is
an ATI file that probably should not be there or that could probably be
removed, as for the remainder there is a grand total of 4 system files,
with all due respect I find your complaint to be a bit overboard!

Also, as far as Windows operating systems are concerned it has always
been, and still is, an extremely bad idea to use the root of the System
drive for your workspace!

John
 
G

George Valkov

Hello Tie!
Kerry Brown just gave me this nice link:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740
It should do the job the page file.


Thank You for the link, to the hide/unhide system files tool, but I prefer
to see what is there. It is safer that way.


George Valkov


in message:
| hello
|
| I do not know if its possible, and I would advise against it.
| You can move the pagefile to another partition or drive, but as far as I
| know not another folder.
| It needs to be in the root.
|
| I can however understand why you want to move it.
| Perhaps because having so many things in the way is annoying...
|
| I too get destracted and here is how I have gotten around this:
|
| I make everything I dont want to be visible into a hidden file or folder
| by giving it the hidden attribute.
| Then when and if I want to find the info I use an easy - handy shell
| extension
| that you can hide-unhide your items with a right click.
|
| Of course in your case the pagefile is already a hidden file since it is a
| system file.
|
| Get the shell extenstion here ( it works under vista fine, i have tested
it)
|
http://www.msfn.org/board/ipb_seo.p...ts_installers/HiddenFilesToggle_3.0_Setup.exe
|
| if you want to see other handy extensions see here:
|
| http://www.msfn.org/board/Here_s_shell_extensions_t52524.html
|
|
|
|
| | > How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another location.
| > For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
| > C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
| > C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys
| >
| >
|
|
 
K

Kerry Brown

Gerry said:
Kerry

George is posting to Vista and Windows XP newsgroups. I am not sure
whether you have noticed this? I didn't at first.

It is possible for Vista and Windows XP to share a pagefile in a dedicated
pagefile partition. This obviously saves disk space. I think saving disk
space is George's objective but he has not so far said this.


While it may be possible to set up a shared page file with this procedure I
wouldn't want to be around when the crap hits the fan. I have no idea what
George is trying to do or why. I saw the cross posting and the other threads
he's started. It's obvious he has some objective in mind but the road to his
objective is a minefield. That's why I suggested a backup :)

It is far better to let Windows manage it's own system files. Altering the
way Windows deals with these files rarely accomplishes anything good and
often causes many unforeseen problems. Dual booting XP and Vista causes
enough problems without any meddling with system files.
 
G

Gerry

Kerry said:
It is far better to let Windows manage it's own system files.
Altering the way Windows deals with these files rarely accomplishes
anything good and often causes many unforeseen problems. Dual booting
XP and Vista causes enough problems without any meddling with system
files.

Agreed. I only mentioned sharing a pagefile because it did work for me
for some time. However, dual booting is a minefield. It seems a good
idea but you can get into one hell of a tangle with the likes of file
paths and ownership issues. Vista is nothing like as easy to manage as
Windows XP. A lot of unpleasant surprises and not too many times when
you say that's a great improvement.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

George Valkov

Thank You very much, Kerry!
I read the entire article. This is almost certainly going to move the page
file to my desired location.

I'll reconfigure it right now, but reboot later to try it...
I am in the middle of a long video encoding session.

PS:
I tried to leave the sweetest piece of cake for the end, but I have a
situation here :)
.... A lot of kind people ready to help me :) and I have to answer to
everyone.


George Valkov


| | > How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another location.
| > For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
| > C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
| > C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys
| >
| >
|
|
| I haven't tested this in Vista so make sure you have a backup before
trying
| this.
|
| The following KB article outlines how to setup multiple page files in
| different directories. You could modify this procedure to use whatever
| directory you want.
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740
|
| That said I think you're crazy to use a system directory.
|
| --
| Kerry Brown
| Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
| http://www.vistahelp.ca
|
|
 
C

Charlie Tame

Kerry said:
While it may be possible to set up a shared page file with this
procedure I wouldn't want to be around when the crap hits the fan. I
have no idea what George is trying to do or why. I saw the cross posting
and the other threads he's started. It's obvious he has some objective
in mind but the road to his objective is a minefield. That's why I
suggested a backup :)

It is far better to let Windows manage it's own system files. Altering
the way Windows deals with these files rarely accomplishes anything good
and often causes many unforeseen problems. Dual booting XP and Vista
causes enough problems without any meddling with system files.


Agreed, I was going to say simply "Don't do it" because any problem is
unlikely to show up right away, rather some distance down the road and
then be much worse on a production machine.
 
G

George Valkov

:
| George
|
| Which operating system is this post meant to be about? Windows XP or
| Vista?

Both! That's why it is on both of the newsgroups.


| "Oh and about "System Volume Information"... I've granted my self "Full
| control", so I can do whatever I want with it."
|
| Leave the contents alone or you will soon have major problems. The way
| to manage System Restore does not involve tinkering with the contents of
| this folder.

Don't wory. There is no System Restore on my computer. I have a backup of my
computer. I know what not to mess with.


| Hope this helps.
|
| Gerry
| ~~~~
| FCA
| Stourport, England
| Enquire, plan and execute
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
| George Valkov wrote:
| >
| >
| >
| > Hello Gordon! Thanks for stopping by. Here is a reason:
| >
| > dir /a /b s:\
| > $Recycle.Bin
| > ATI MMC
| > RECYCLER
| > System Volume Information
| > pagefile.sys
| >
| >
| >
| > How does it feel with so much system items? There are 5. This is a
| > large volume, that I have assigned as a primary workspace for my
| > work. How would You feel If someone puts a lot of garbage in your
| > workspace? And You have to delete it every now and then!
| >
| >
| > Oh and about "System Volume Information"... I've granted my self "Full
| > control", so I can do whatever I want with it.
| >
| >
| > George Valkov
|
|
 
G

George Valkov

| George
|
| Why would you put the pagefile in the System Volume Information folder?


Hello Gerry!
To put it away from my sight.

| Why does the path concern you?


S:\ is the largest volume on my computer. It is on a physical disk other
than the system. It is a perfect place for a page file. On the other hand,
the S:\<root> is designed to be my prymary workspace folder, so the less
items to distract me, the better. Show all files is enabled for better
security.

I also have a page file on the system volume.


| The Article in this link contains a very detailed explanation of Virtual
| Memory:
| http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

I just finished reading it. I learned a lot!


| On most computers the Windows Operating System is placed on the C drive
| along with the pagefile. You can however, place the page file on another
| drive, or if you wish have a page file on all or some other hard drives
| or partitions of a drive. To ascertain where your pagefile is located
| select right click on your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
| Properties, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory,
| Change. The first partition on a second drive is a favoured location.
| Howver, you need to keep a minimum 50 mb partition on C. A dedicated
| pagefile partition without other folders and files intermingled is the
| best solution.
|
| Separate pagefiles are a controversial topic so be prepared for others
| to chip in with differing views.

1 GB RAM is never enough these days. Windows is hungry for more and more
after every service pack!


| Hope this helps.

Yes!
You replay is suited better for an average user, but I found new knowledge
too!
The link lead me to a very good topic!

Thank You Gery!

PS:
Oh, by the way Kerry Brown showed me how to move the page file to custom
path:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740


|
| Gerry
| ~~~~
| FCA
| Stourport, England
| Enquire, plan and execute
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| George Valkov wrote:
| > How do I tell Vista and XP to create "pagefile.sys" on another
| > location. For example these paths are all acceptable for me:
| > C:\WINDOWS\pagefile.sys
| > C:\System Volume Information\pagefile.sys
|
|
 

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