Motherboard with SATA3 and USB3

[Dewey Edwards]

Hi,

I,m planning on a new build early next month. I see boards that
support the above.

But, I haven.t seen hardware for it to justify it.

i've looked at newegg but found no parts for which use either SATA3 or
USB3.

Are there any?

 

[Paul]

Hi,

I,m planning on a new build early next month. I see boards that
support the above.

But, I haven.t seen hardware for it to justify it.

i've looked at newegg but found no parts for which use either SATA3 or
USB3.

Are there any?

A couple 355MB/sec SSD drives using SATA III. Always read the reviews, to
see if they're really worth having. SSDs in general, have a pretty bad
track record, in terms of consistent performance under all circumstances.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150636+1421555552&name=SATA+III

There are USB3 hard drive enclosures, but I wouldn't say
the example here was earth shaking. The USB3 enclosure
chip does have the advantage of passing the 30MB/sec mark
of USB2. But the burst transfer rate doesn't suggest the
plumbing on this one is "fully open". It may take time,
before that will happen. I suspect you might see higher
numbers from existing ESATA enclosures. The only advantage
a USB3 2.5" enclosure would have, is being able to bus
power the hard drive inside.

http://www.ocmodshop.com/ocmodshop.aspx?a=1752

Paul

 

[peter]

There is very few at the present time but how long will you keep your
new mobo.........
I too am in the market for a new mobo and am waiting to see some with
more SATA3 connectors than the 2 currently offered as well as more
USB3 connectors. I guess it will take a little while for them to come out
as more and more SATA3 HD and USB3 peripherals become available.
At the present time I am not interested in an SSD drive ..costs too much..
too many
variables are at work to make reliable..
peter

 

[Dewey Edwards]

A couple 355MB/sec SSD drives using SATA III. Always read the reviews, to
see if they're really worth having. SSDs in general, have a pretty bad
track record, in terms of consistent performance under all circumstances.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150636+1421555552&name=SATA+III

There are USB3 hard drive enclosures, but I wouldn't say
the example here was earth shaking. The USB3 enclosure
chip does have the advantage of passing the 30MB/sec mark
of USB2. But the burst transfer rate doesn't suggest the
plumbing on this one is "fully open". It may take time,
before that will happen. I suspect you might see higher
numbers from existing ESATA enclosures. The only advantage
a USB3 2.5" enclosure would have, is being able to bus
power the hard drive inside.

http://www.ocmodshop.com/ocmodshop.aspx?a=1752

Paul

Thank you Paul.

I am thinking about an ASUS Premium X58 board (I like the fact that
the SATA connections will NOT be under a single video card). And I
want to overclock.

As Peter says below, SSD's are hard to justify the current cost. Me
thinks I'll just get the board and get an SSD when they become more
affordable.

 

[Dewey Edwards]

There is very few at the present time but how long will you keep your
new mobo.........

At least five years..

I too am in the market for a new mobo and am waiting to see some with
more SATA3 connectors than the 2 currently offered as well as more
USB3 connectors. I guess it will take a little while for them to come out
as more and more SATA3 HD and USB3 peripherals become available.
At the present time I am not interested in an SSD drive ..costs too much..
too many
variables are at work to make reliable..

Tend to agree about current SSD prices. But I need a new system. I
will live with the "2X2" limitations of current mobos. My original
question was what is out there for such a mobo. Shoot, I don't mind
upgrading a peripheral or two when the upgrade makes sense.

]
Thank you Peter for your response.

 

[Dewey Edwards]

out of curiosity whats wrong with what you have already got

My old desktop died a few years back. My current PC is a laptop.

I find laptops too limited, but, until recently, unavoidable. Now
it's avoidable.

 

[Dewey Edwards]

Seagate and Western Digital (as well as others) have external disk
drives using USB3 and running at about 90MB/second.

SATA III is can be used with various SSDs, but also with some spinning
disks, such as Western Digital VelociRaptor HLHX models
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-701284.pdf

SATA III would also be useful for use with a port multiplier, but I
couldn't find a SATA III port multiplier.

I'd hold out for PCI 3 also, but you made need PCI 2 on some slots
since PCI 3.0 doesn't support 5-volt power per
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Component_Interconnect

Food for thought. Thanks.

 

[Paul]

What sites do you recommend reading? From what I've read, SSD's are pricey
but beyond that, I did not get a feeling of 'bad track record' as opposed to
standard HDs.

--g

If you look at the articles on Anandtech, it didn't take much testing
for them to find pathological conditions that are bad for SSDs. There
are some pages, like a few from OCZtechnology, that review some of the tweaks
that can be done to file systems on SSDs. There is also the "TRIM" command,
which is most likely to be supported in the most recent OSes.

You can get reviews on Newegg for the SSDs they sell. There are some of the
cheaper SSDs, where the reviews can be uniformly bad. There are products
where the average user is pretty happy. With some of the pathological test
cases, the claim is they might not happen to you with normal usage. But
really, compared to a regular hard drive, do I want to worry about this
stuff ? If I'm paying $400 for some fancy SSD, I expect to be able to sit
back and enjoy it, not have to pamper it.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?43460-Making-XP-pro-SSD-friendly

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=669&type=expert&pid=7

(I'm using AIOE.org, so have to split long URLs onto more than one line...)

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?48309-Partition-
alignment-importance-under-Windows-XP-(32-bit-and-64-bit)..why-it-helps-with-stuttering-and-increases-drive-working-life.

Plus several articles on Anandtech...

Paul