Motherboard Upgrade

G

Guest

Hello,
I'm upgrading my old 2003-04ish Chaintech motherboard to the new GIGABYTE
GA-965P-DS3 and also upgrading to a intel core 2 duo e6700. I have Windows XP
SP2 installed. Anyways I was wondering what I have to do to install these
correctly, I have read everything on the internets and I'm confused by people
saying stuff about the BIOS. Am I supposed to do anything with the BIOS or
just go ahead and do the upgrade install windows XP?

Thanks,
Tim
 
J

Jim Macklin

New mobo and a new CPU will probably need a Repair Install
or Windows won't boot, it will then probably need to be
reactivated. Just Google for "repair install windows xp" to
get instructions.

The new mobo will have a new BIOS [that may have updates
available, but that can wait]. But you will want to see the
BIOS so your drives and devices are properly recognized
during the boot process.


message
| Hello,
| I'm upgrading my old 2003-04ish Chaintech motherboard to
the new GIGABYTE
| GA-965P-DS3 and also upgrading to a intel core 2 duo
e6700. I have Windows XP
| SP2 installed. Anyways I was wondering what I have to do
to install these
| correctly, I have read everything on the internets and I'm
confused by people
| saying stuff about the BIOS. Am I supposed to do anything
with the BIOS or
| just go ahead and do the upgrade install windows XP?
|
| Thanks,
| Tim
 
G

Guest

Ok, I upgraded everything and I upgrade installed xp but now when xp starts
up it goes to the desktop and nothing happens. I can access the task manager
and there are no processes running under my username.

tbone328 said:
Ok. Thanks a lot for the info.

Jim Macklin said:
New mobo and a new CPU will probably need a Repair Install
or Windows won't boot, it will then probably need to be
reactivated. Just Google for "repair install windows xp" to
get instructions.

The new mobo will have a new BIOS [that may have updates
available, but that can wait]. But you will want to see the
BIOS so your drives and devices are properly recognized
during the boot process.


message
| Hello,
| I'm upgrading my old 2003-04ish Chaintech motherboard to
the new GIGABYTE
| GA-965P-DS3 and also upgrading to a intel core 2 duo
e6700. I have Windows XP
| SP2 installed. Anyways I was wondering what I have to do
to install these
| correctly, I have read everything on the internets and I'm
confused by people
| saying stuff about the BIOS. Am I supposed to do anything
with the BIOS or
| just go ahead and do the upgrade install windows XP?
|
| Thanks,
| Tim
 
J

Jim Macklin

What do you want to happen? If it goes to the desktop, it
means that it automatically logged onto your user account.

Can you open Internet Explorer?

Look at Services, processes are applications running, such
as Office, Internet Explorer and services are things like
anti-virus, etc that run in the background. Open the
anti-virus to do a scan and it will show as an application.




message
| Ok, I upgraded everything and I upgrade installed xp but
now when xp starts
| up it goes to the desktop and nothing happens. I can
access the task manager
| and there are no processes running under my username.
|
| "tbone328" wrote:
|
| > Ok. Thanks a lot for the info.
| >
| > "Jim Macklin" wrote:
| >
| > > New mobo and a new CPU will probably need a Repair
Install
| > > or Windows won't boot, it will then probably need to
be
| > > reactivated. Just Google for "repair install windows
xp" to
| > > get instructions.
| > >
| > > The new mobo will have a new BIOS [that may have
updates
| > > available, but that can wait]. But you will want to
see the
| > > BIOS so your drives and devices are properly
recognized
| > > during the boot process.
| > >
| > >
in
| > > message
| > >
| > > | Hello,
| > > | I'm upgrading my old 2003-04ish Chaintech
motherboard to
| > > the new GIGABYTE
| > > | GA-965P-DS3 and also upgrading to a intel core 2 duo
| > > e6700. I have Windows XP
| > > | SP2 installed. Anyways I was wondering what I have
to do
| > > to install these
| > > | correctly, I have read everything on the internets
and I'm
| > > confused by people
| > > | saying stuff about the BIOS. Am I supposed to do
anything
| > > with the BIOS or
| > > | just go ahead and do the upgrade install windows XP?
| > > |
| > > | Thanks,
| > > | Tim
| > >
| > >
| > >
 
G

Guest

I should of said that differently, there's no desktop icons no start menu or
anything. There's no explorer.exe process running either. But now the
computer is overheating for some odd reason and shuts off automatically, i
have no idea whats wrong with it.
 
J

Jim Macklin

Overheating, the heatsink are not properly installed and
the fans not properly installed and connected.

It shuts down to keep it from burning up.

You need more help than I can give here. Find a high school
computer geek in your neighborhood.



message
|I should of said that differently, there's no desktop icons
no start menu or
| anything. There's no explorer.exe process running either.
But now the
| computer is overheating for some odd reason and shuts off
automatically, i
| have no idea whats wrong with it.
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote:
|
| > What do you want to happen? If it goes to the desktop,
it
| > means that it automatically logged onto your user
account.
| >
| > Can you open Internet Explorer?
| >
| > Look at Services, processes are applications running,
such
| > as Office, Internet Explorer and services are things
like
| > anti-virus, etc that run in the background. Open the
| > anti-virus to do a scan and it will show as an
application.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > message
| >
| > | Ok, I upgraded everything and I upgrade installed xp
but
| > now when xp starts
| > | up it goes to the desktop and nothing happens. I can
| > access the task manager
| > | and there are no processes running under my username.
| > |
| > | "tbone328" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Ok. Thanks a lot for the info.
| > | >
| > | > "Jim Macklin" wrote:
| > | >
| > | > > New mobo and a new CPU will probably need a Repair
| > Install
| > | > > or Windows won't boot, it will then probably need
to
| > be
| > | > > reactivated. Just Google for "repair install
windows
| > xp" to
| > | > > get instructions.
| > | > >
| > | > > The new mobo will have a new BIOS [that may have
| > updates
| > | > > available, but that can wait]. But you will want
to
| > see the
| > | > > BIOS so your drives and devices are properly
| > recognized
| > | > > during the boot process.
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > "tbone328" <[email protected]>
wrote
| > in
| > | > > message
| > | > >
| >
| > | > > | Hello,
| > | > > | I'm upgrading my old 2003-04ish Chaintech
| > motherboard to
| > | > > the new GIGABYTE
| > | > > | GA-965P-DS3 and also upgrading to a intel core 2
duo
| > | > > e6700. I have Windows XP
| > | > > | SP2 installed. Anyways I was wondering what I
have
| > to do
| > | > > to install these
| > | > > | correctly, I have read everything on the
internets
| > and I'm
| > | > > confused by people
| > | > > | saying stuff about the BIOS. Am I supposed to do
| > anything
| > | > > with the BIOS or
| > | > > | just go ahead and do the upgrade install windows
XP?
| > | > > |
| > | > > | Thanks,
| > | > > | Tim
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| >
| >
| >
 
G

Guest

I fixed the overheating issue, i forgot to take the plastic cover on the
bottom of the cpu fan, but i'm still having the no start menu or anything at
startup issue

Jim Macklin said:
Overheating, the heatsink are not properly installed and
the fans not properly installed and connected.

It shuts down to keep it from burning up.

You need more help than I can give here. Find a high school
computer geek in your neighborhood.



message
|I should of said that differently, there's no desktop icons
no start menu or
| anything. There's no explorer.exe process running either.
But now the
| computer is overheating for some odd reason and shuts off
automatically, i
| have no idea whats wrong with it.
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote:
|
| > What do you want to happen? If it goes to the desktop,
it
| > means that it automatically logged onto your user
account.
| >
| > Can you open Internet Explorer?
| >
| > Look at Services, processes are applications running,
such
| > as Office, Internet Explorer and services are things
like
| > anti-virus, etc that run in the background. Open the
| > anti-virus to do a scan and it will show as an
application.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > message
| >
| > | Ok, I upgraded everything and I upgrade installed xp
but
| > now when xp starts
| > | up it goes to the desktop and nothing happens. I can
| > access the task manager
| > | and there are no processes running under my username.
| > |
| > | "tbone328" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Ok. Thanks a lot for the info.
| > | >
| > | > "Jim Macklin" wrote:
| > | >
| > | > > New mobo and a new CPU will probably need a Repair
| > Install
| > | > > or Windows won't boot, it will then probably need
to
| > be
| > | > > reactivated. Just Google for "repair install
windows
| > xp" to
| > | > > get instructions.
| > | > >
| > | > > The new mobo will have a new BIOS [that may have
| > updates
| > | > > available, but that can wait]. But you will want
to
| > see the
| > | > > BIOS so your drives and devices are properly
| > recognized
| > | > > during the boot process.
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > "tbone328" <[email protected]>
wrote
| > in
| > | > > message
| > | > >
| >
| > | > > | Hello,
| > | > > | I'm upgrading my old 2003-04ish Chaintech
| > motherboard to
| > | > > the new GIGABYTE
| > | > > | GA-965P-DS3 and also upgrading to a intel core 2
duo
| > | > > e6700. I have Windows XP
| > | > > | SP2 installed. Anyways I was wondering what I
have
| > to do
| > | > > to install these
| > | > > | correctly, I have read everything on the
internets
| > and I'm
| > | > > confused by people
| > | > > | saying stuff about the BIOS. Am I supposed to do
| > anything
| > | > > with the BIOS or
| > | > > | just go ahead and do the upgrade install windows
XP?
| > | > > |
| > | > > | Thanks,
| > | > > | Tim
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| >
| >
| >
 
J

Jim Macklin

You will be best served by recognizing that you are over
your head and seeking some in-person help.

There are many possibilities, some software, many hardware.
Your error with the fan is just one thing, which may have
caused further problems or damage.

You can try starting from scratch on the upgrades by going
on-line with a working computer and researching all the
steps required to upgrade, including software and hardware.
Repair installs and then recheck all the things you've done
so far, step by step.


message
|I fixed the overheating issue, i forgot to take the plastic
cover on the
| bottom of the cpu fan, but i'm still having the no start
menu or anything at
| startup issue
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote:
|
| > Overheating, the heatsink are not properly installed
and
| > the fans not properly installed and connected.
| >
| > It shuts down to keep it from burning up.
| >
| > You need more help than I can give here. Find a high
school
| > computer geek in your neighborhood.
| >
| >
| >
| > message
| >
| > |I should of said that differently, there's no desktop
icons
| > no start menu or
| > | anything. There's no explorer.exe process running
either.
| > But now the
| > | computer is overheating for some odd reason and shuts
off
| > automatically, i
| > | have no idea whats wrong with it.
| > |
| > | "Jim Macklin" wrote:
| > |
| > | > What do you want to happen? If it goes to the
desktop,
| > it
| > | > means that it automatically logged onto your user
| > account.
| > | >
| > | > Can you open Internet Explorer?
| > | >
| > | > Look at Services, processes are applications
running,
| > such
| > | > as Office, Internet Explorer and services are things
| > like
| > | > anti-virus, etc that run in the background. Open
the
| > | > anti-virus to do a scan and it will show as an
| > application.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "tbone328" <[email protected]>
wrote in
| > | > message
| > | >
| >
| > | > | Ok, I upgraded everything and I upgrade installed
xp
| > but
| > | > now when xp starts
| > | > | up it goes to the desktop and nothing happens. I
can
| > | > access the task manager
| > | > | and there are no processes running under my
username.
| > | > |
| > | > | "tbone328" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Ok. Thanks a lot for the info.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Jim Macklin" wrote:
| > | > | >
| > | > | > > New mobo and a new CPU will probably need a
Repair
| > | > Install
| > | > | > > or Windows won't boot, it will then probably
need
| > to
| > | > be
| > | > | > > reactivated. Just Google for "repair install
| > windows
| > | > xp" to
| > | > | > > get instructions.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > The new mobo will have a new BIOS [that may
have
| > | > updates
| > | > | > > available, but that can wait]. But you will
want
| > to
| > | > see the
| > | > | > > BIOS so your drives and devices are properly
| > | > recognized
| > | > | > > during the boot process.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "tbone328"
<[email protected]>
| > wrote
| > | > in
| > | > | > > message
| > | > | > >
| > | >
| >
| > | > | > > | Hello,
| > | > | > > | I'm upgrading my old 2003-04ish Chaintech
| > | > motherboard to
| > | > | > > the new GIGABYTE
| > | > | > > | GA-965P-DS3 and also upgrading to a intel
core 2
| > duo
| > | > | > > e6700. I have Windows XP
| > | > | > > | SP2 installed. Anyways I was wondering what
I
| > have
| > | > to do
| > | > | > > to install these
| > | > | > > | correctly, I have read everything on the
| > internets
| > | > and I'm
| > | > | > > confused by people
| > | > | > > | saying stuff about the BIOS. Am I supposed
to do
| > | > anything
| > | > | > > with the BIOS or
| > | > | > > | just go ahead and do the upgrade install
windows
| > XP?
| > | > | > > |
| > | > | > > | Thanks,
| > | > | > > | Tim
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
P

Paul

tbone328 said:
I fixed the overheating issue, i forgot to take the plastic cover on the
bottom of the cpu fan, but i'm still having the no start menu or anything at
startup issue

If you want some other things to try, you could try a "Live CD" version
of a Linux distribution. The purpose of that is two-fold.

1) You can watch as the computer boots the Linux CD, to see if there are
any error messages, such as broken motherboard hardware. Messages are
printed, as various subsystems are probed (storage, USB, Firewire and so
on).

2) Linux has the ability to mount a Windows hard drive. NTFS will probably
be mounted read-only, and I don't know if read/write is now possible or not.
FAT32 should be easier to do, so that should be read/write. You can look
at the files on the Windows hard drive, using Linux as the operating system.
In fact, the other day, I actually ran a free Virus scanner in Linux, with
my NTFS Windows hard drive as the target of the scan.

Note that, with a Live CD, you don't have to install anything. The CD
boots, and system RAM is used for temporary storage. The CD is used
to get applications and system files. With a Live CD, you don't even need
a working hard drive to be present.

The bad part, is the popular distros can be quite large. Knoppix (knopper.net)
and Ubuntu (ubuntu.com) are 700MB download each. You need software that can
burn an ISO9660 image to a CD (I used Nero that came with my CD burner). I
like Knoppix, because it puts text messages on the screen, during the boot
phase. You can review the messages later, in a console window, using the
"dmesg" command.

If you have high speed Internet, it might take an hour to download the 700MB
file. If you are on dialup, it would take forever. You can also find places
that sell the CD on the Internet, but I don't have any experience with that.

Based on using Linux, you would have the opportunity to open log files on the
hard drive, that you might not be able to look at currently. Maybe if there
was a file that traced the loading of drivers, you might get some idea from
that, as to where it is getting stuck. A Linux Live CD gives you an alternate
way, to look at the contents of your hard drive.

Paul
 

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