Monitor question to stump even the experts...

G

Guest

I have a 1 year old Japanese computer called a Fujitsu FMV Deskpower. I
recently upgraded from the built-in video card, just to find that the monitor
plug doesn't fit. It seems that Fujitsu created these wacky "Digital plus"
monitor plugs that don't fit anything except Fujitsu PCs (and they don't make
video cards). So I bought a cheap monitor that hurts my eyes just to fit my
new video card, while my nice new big flatscreen Fujitsu monitor sits
disconnected.

I checked 'special' plug shops online, but no one seems to carryan adapter.
What can I do? Is it possible to splice my own cords somehow?

Any advice greatly appreciated by me and my eyes ;-)
 
J

Jim Macklin

To further explain, the old analog connection for monitors
is VGA which sends a different type of signal to the CRT.
The new digital flat panels use a DVI connector (it is a
standard type of connector, but different companies call it
special names as part of the marketing program). Many flat
panel monitors ONLY use DVI, some can use both VGA and DVI.
DVI will give a better picture.


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| | >I have a 1 year old Japanese computer called a Fujitsu
FMV Deskpower. I
| > recently upgraded from the built-in video card, just to
find that the
| > monitor
| > plug doesn't fit. It seems that Fujitsu created these
wacky "Digital
| > plus"
| > monitor plugs that don't fit anything except Fujitsu PCs
(and they don't
| > make
| > video cards). So I bought a cheap monitor that hurts my
eyes just to fit
| > my
| > new video card, while my nice new big flatscreen Fujitsu
monitor sits
| > disconnected.
| >
| > I checked 'special' plug shops online, but no one seems
to carryan
| > adapter.
| > What can I do? Is it possible to splice my own cords
somehow?
| >
| > Any advice greatly appreciated by me and my eyes ;-)
|
|
 
G

Guest

Hi guys-
As I mentioned, its not a DVI plug, its a "Digital plus" plug. My G-Force
card supports VGA, DVI, and TV-out. The Fujitsu plug won't fit.
 
J

Jim Macklin

Gee, maybe you should call Fujitsu and ask about a gender
converter.
A little search on Google indicates there are two several
DVI standards, including DVI-D and DVI-S, one of those is
probably what you need. You might call a company such as
Cyberguys or NewEgg and talk to them on the phone.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| Hi guys-
| As I mentioned, its not a DVI plug, its a "Digital plus"
plug. My G-Force
| card supports VGA, DVI, and TV-out. The Fujitsu plug
won't fit.
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote:
|
| > To further explain, the old analog connection for
monitors
| > is VGA which sends a different type of signal to the
CRT.
| > The new digital flat panels use a DVI connector (it is a
| > standard type of connector, but different companies call
it
| > special names as part of the marketing program). Many
flat
| > panel monitors ONLY use DVI, some can use both VGA and
DVI.
| > DVI will give a better picture.
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > message | > | Look for a graphics card with DVI Capability !
| > | --
| > | Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging &
| > Hardware)
| > | www.coribright.com
| > |
| > message
| > |
| > | >I have a 1 year old Japanese computer called a
Fujitsu
| > FMV Deskpower. I
| > | > recently upgraded from the built-in video card, just
to
| > find that the
| > | > monitor
| > | > plug doesn't fit. It seems that Fujitsu created
these
| > wacky "Digital
| > | > plus"
| > | > monitor plugs that don't fit anything except Fujitsu
PCs
| > (and they don't
| > | > make
| > | > video cards). So I bought a cheap monitor that
hurts my
| > eyes just to fit
| > | > my
| > | > new video card, while my nice new big flatscreen
Fujitsu
| > monitor sits
| > | > disconnected.
| > | >
| > | > I checked 'special' plug shops online, but no one
seems
| > to carryan
| > | > adapter.
| > | > What can I do? Is it possible to splice my own
cords
| > somehow?
| > | >
| > | > Any advice greatly appreciated by me and my eyes ;-)
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
| >
 
G

Guest

Cheers Nathan-
I had a translator contact Fujitsu Japan, and they were less than helpful.
I did findout however that it's called a "30 pin type" (if the translator is
correct). I don't know about cables, but I counted the pin slots and there
are 28 in the center, 2 on the sides. The link below has only 20 pins in the
center, so I'll try a search for a "30 pin type" DFP?
 
J

Jim Macklin

You might try a search on Belkin, they make a lot of
different gender changers and adapters. You might also
contact ATI or NVIDIA (who ever made your new video card)
and ask their help.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| Cheers Nathan-
| I had a translator contact Fujitsu Japan, and they were
less than helpful.
| I did findout however that it's called a "30 pin type" (if
the translator is
| correct). I don't know about cables, but I counted the
pin slots and there
| are 28 in the center, 2 on the sides. The link below has
only 20 pins in the
| center, so I'll try a search for a "30 pin type" DFP?
|
| "Nathan McNulty" wrote:
|
| > Nice. That picture helps a ton. That is called a DFP
(Digital Flat
| > Panel) Connector. Here is a nice little link for you
(Google search of
| > DFP Connector brought this up for me):
| >
http://www.ati.com/support/connectors/pinouts/pinoutsfordfp.html
| >
| > Here is what you are looking for in a convertor:
| > http://www.vpi.us/cgi-bin/vpi/dvim-mdr20f.html
| >
| > You will probably find these cheaper on eBay or other
sites, but this
| > picture is excellent :)
| >
| > ----
| > Nathan McNulty
| >
| >
| > jonny wrote:
| > > Cheers Jim-
| > > I'll try and hunt them down. Here's a shot of the
Fujitsu (bottom) as
| > > compared to a standard DVI on my video card (top):
| > >
http://www.photodump.com/viewer/asdfgzxcvb/SH530005.html
| > >
| > >
| > > "Jim Macklin" wrote:
| > >
| > >
| > >>Gee, maybe you should call Fujitsu and ask about a
gender
| > >>converter.
| > >>A little search on Google indicates there are two
several
| > >>DVI standards, including DVI-D and DVI-S, one of those
is
| > >>probably what you need. You might call a company such
as
| > >>Cyberguys or NewEgg and talk to them on the phone.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>--
| > >>The people think the Constitution protects their
rights;
| > >>But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| > >>
| > >>
message
| >| > >>| Hi guys-
| > >>| As I mentioned, its not a DVI plug, its a "Digital
plus"
| > >>plug. My G-Force
| > >>| card supports VGA, DVI, and TV-out. The Fujitsu
plug
| > >>won't fit.
| > >>|
| > >>| "Jim Macklin" wrote:
| > >>|
| > >>| > To further explain, the old analog connection for
| > >>monitors
| > >>| > is VGA which sends a different type of signal to
the
| > >>CRT.
| > >>| > The new digital flat panels use a DVI connector
(it is a
| > >>| > standard type of connector, but different
companies call
| > >>it
| > >>| > special names as part of the marketing program).
Many
| > >>flat
| > >>| > panel monitors ONLY use DVI, some can use both VGA
and
| > >>DVI.
| > >>| > DVI will give a better picture.
| > >>| >
| > >>| >
| > >>| > --
| > >>| > The people think the Constitution protects their
rights;
| > >>| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be
overcome.
| > >>| >
| > >>| >
in
| > >>| > message
| > >>| > | Look for a graphics card with DVI Capability !
| > >>| > | --
| > >>| > | Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging
&
| > >>| > Hardware)
| > >>| > | www.coribright.com
| > >>| > |
| > >>| > | "jonnyd" <[email protected]>
wrote in
| > >>| > message
| > >>| > |
| >| > >>| > | >I have a 1 year old Japanese computer called a
| > >>Fujitsu
| > >>| > FMV Deskpower. I
| > >>| > | > recently upgraded from the built-in video
card, just
| > >>to
| > >>| > find that the
| > >>| > | > monitor
| > >>| > | > plug doesn't fit. It seems that Fujitsu
created
| > >>these
| > >>| > wacky "Digital
| > >>| > | > plus"
| > >>| > | > monitor plugs that don't fit anything except
Fujitsu
| > >>PCs
| > >>| > (and they don't
| > >>| > | > make
| > >>| > | > video cards). So I bought a cheap monitor
that
| > >>hurts my
| > >>| > eyes just to fit
| > >>| > | > my
| > >>| > | > new video card, while my nice new big
flatscreen
| > >>Fujitsu
| > >>| > monitor sits
| > >>| > | > disconnected.
| > >>| > | >
| > >>| > | > I checked 'special' plug shops online, but no
one
| > >>seems
| > >>| > to carryan
| > >>| > | > adapter.
| > >>| > | > What can I do? Is it possible to splice my
own
| > >>cords
| > >>| > somehow?
| > >>| > | >
| > >>| > | > Any advice greatly appreciated by me and my
eyes ;-)
| > >>| > |
| > >>| > |
| > >>| >
| > >>| >
| > >>| >
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
 
G

Guest

Hi Jim-
Just tried Belkin - no banana. Anyway, I searched all over and can't find
anything. I am really upset about it. The original dealer has washed his
hands of it, despite assuring me when I was going to buy the PC that I could
"upgrade to play any new game". And Fujitsu kept us on the phone for 1 hour
just for the tech to say they don't know and we should contact a computer
shop or something. I would make the dealer or Fujitsu sort this out one way
or another, but I am relying on a reluctant and somewhat uncooperative
translator here in Japan, making me all the more frustrated. {rant off}
 
N

Nathan McNulty

Holy cow. I didn't quite see that properly. I have never in my life
seen that type of connector. I thought for sure that I had seen them
all (j/k) :D

That is a very odd situation then. I have been searching for answers
for about a half an hour now, but I finally gave up. Your best bet is
going to be either get a convertor directly from the company, buy a new
monitor, or splice the cable and learn how to connect all the wires to
make a normal VGA or DVI output :)
 
G

Guest

HI Nathan-
Thanks for the reply. Do you know where I would start to get info on how to
splice the monitor? The monitor also has the speakers built in, don't know
how much of a twist that is.
 
N

Nathan McNulty

I looked for info on the insides of a VGA monitor, but didn't find
anything (because everyone just wanted to sell one). If you were to cut
it open, you may get lucky and the colors would correspond with another
VGA Cable, but if the sound is going through the cable too, you are
gonna be out of luck. This sounds like a weird proprietary connector
that nobody has ever seen. Only chance is going to be the manufacturer.
I would just spend the money and buy a new monitor that I know is
going to work on any computer (VGA or DVI). You can get a nice 15"
LCD's (you want low ms response times) for around $250 and nice 17"
LCD's for around $300. Just have to wait for the right deal and talk to
the right people. You can usually get an extra amount off (I like to go
for 10%) at the store by haggling or price matching to online prices.
Good luck :)
 
N

Nathan McNulty

That's a great website. Unfortunately, the OP's cable is not listed.
I've searched Google a long time looking for this thing and can't find
it anywhere. It must be proprietary.
 
B

Budget Print Center

ahhh... looking at his photodump i neglected to scroll to the lower half,
lol. I will resume my search....
 

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