Online Gaming - system upgrade? Or is my internet speed the proble

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Guest

Well, after much debate I think it may be time to get a new PC. I have been
reluctant to as we just bought a new PC last year, but a couple of things
have changed my mind:

It only has a PCI slot for video card upgrade, no AGP. And in any case, the
monitor has this wacky ‘digital +’ plug that appears to only fit with Fujitsu
computers. No DVI or VGA adapters appear to be adaptable. I went ahead and
bought a Ge-Force 5600 PCI video card that does get me into the market for
Direct X 9b games, but the performance is sketchy (always have to set to
lowest options, and then still get lag in games like BFV). I also bought an
old cheap VGA monitor, but it hurts my eyes. Not thrilled with the prospect
of shelling out a couple of hundred dollars more for a new DVI monitor to
equal the original, and still being yesterday’s PCI technology, I thought
getting a new system might be in order. Too bad as Fujitsu has a good
reputation for quality here, and I am happy with the PC otherwise. And it’s
all still under warranty.

Keep in mind I am in Japan, and the language barrier makes everything more
difficult. Also, selling/buying used computers is not common here, so I’ll
probably have to take a huge hit if I go that route. We got the system for
130,000 yen (about $1200 US), much cheaper than normal retail. Anyway, if
possible I would like to try and salvage something from it to be cost
effective. Is it possible to do this? The low end SiS 740 video card is
built into the mobo, and there are no AGP slots.

Make/name: Fujitsu FMV-Deskpower (Model: CE21C).

AMD Anthalon XP 2100+
266 MHz system bus clock
256 MB memory (plus 512 MB stick I added)
120 GB HD

Accessories: 17†flatscreen monitor with built-in speakers, laser mouse,
DVD-R CD-RW drive, Ge-Force 5600 PCI card.


I play a lot of games, so would like to have a decent system, but don’t need
to get an outrageously new/expensive type. Any advice or recommendations
greatly appreciated!


Also, I'm having someone call the internet company for me tomorrow morning
about max speeds. But if I understand correctly, ADSL is the fastest hookup
here, offered through a company called Yahoo BB (Yahoo broadband). I'm
getting about 26 M as my connection speed (sorry but I don't know what 'M'
stands for - again the language barrier). I should mention that BB was only
introduced in my region last year.

So is this speed the ultimate bottleneck for online gaming? Will an upgraded
system only be a waste?

On a side note, I went to the 2 PC shops in my city here. Believe it or not,
the ONLY PC that either of them carried that had an AGP slot was their 'top
of the line' Sony Vaio model VGC-RA50L7. link and specs:

http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/VGC-RA70P/

-HT tech intel Pentium 4 processor 3.20E GHz
-memory 512MB(256MB × 2)
(DDR 400)
-200GB HDD
-DVD±RWdrive(DVD+R 2)
-17" flatscreen monitor
-GeForce 5200 video card


This sells for the 'screaming deal' of 239,800 yen (about $2200 US). At one
shop, the guy didn't even know what an AGP slot was! I had to point out the
parts I was interested in while asking for advice! Not exactly a confidence
booster.

Anyway, it apperas as though laptops and unupgradable 'desktops' like I have
now, are the main fare in Japan. It may be possible to get other stuff in
Osaka though, as it's a large center, but I'll have to make a special trip
just to check it out, so it would be good to know what I generaly want before
I go there.

Again, thanks for your help!
Cheers! -j
 
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Nathan McNulty

2 Megabit is pretty dang fast. There are still people gaming on dialup.
Your computer should be fine on that internet connection. Very few
people in the US have speeds faster than that ;)
 
J

Jim Macklin

No where near...
2 Mbps is two million bits per second or about 250 KB/sec.
You're at a tenth of that. 1000 kbps is about 1 mbps.


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| Found this cool site re checking internet speeds:
|
| http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp
|
|
| Mine are here (below if link no good):
|
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedchart.asp?id=c847eb02feaff7c7b4c847eb02
|
| Downstream 122 Kbps (15.3 KB/sec) 131 Kbps (inc.
overheads)
| Upstream 193 Kbps (24.1 KB/sec) 208 Kbps (inc. overheads)
|
| This is about "2 meg"?
| "Nathan McNulty" wrote:
|
| > 2 Megabit is pretty dang fast. There are still people
gaming on dialup.
| > Your computer should be fine on that internet
connection. Very few
| > people in the US have speeds faster than that ;)
| >
| > ----
| > Nathan McNulty
| >
| >
| > jonny wrote:
| > > And re the internet speed- just found out that the
average speed where I live
| > > is "2 meg" (and I have the best possible connection
for my area). Don't know
| > > how that translates for gaming, but hope it won't make
a new system useless!
| > >
| > > Also, great news! Found this place:
| > >
| > > http://www.primepc.jp/goods_pc/goods_pc.php
| > >
| > > Which system would suit my gaming needs?
| > >
| > >
| > > "jonny" wrote:
| > >
| > >
| > >>Well, after much debate I think it may be time to get
a new PC. I have been
| > >>reluctant to as we just bought a new PC last year, but
a couple of things
| > >>have changed my mind:
| > >>
| > >>It only has a PCI slot for video card upgrade, no AGP.
And in any case, the
| > >>monitor has this wacky 'digital +' plug that appears
to only fit with Fujitsu
| > >>computers. No DVI or VGA adapters appear to be
adaptable. I went ahead and
| > >>bought a Ge-Force 5600 PCI video card that does get me
into the market for
| > >>Direct X 9b games, but the performance is sketchy
(always have to set to
| > >>lowest options, and then still get lag in games like
BFV). I also bought an
| > >>old cheap VGA monitor, but it hurts my eyes. Not
thrilled with the prospect
| > >>of shelling out a couple of hundred dollars more for a
new DVI monitor to
| > >>equal the original, and still being yesterday's PCI
technology, I thought
| > >>getting a new system might be in order. Too bad as
Fujitsu has a good
| > >>reputation for quality here, and I am happy with the
PC otherwise. And it's
| > >>all still under warranty.
| > >>
| > >>Keep in mind I am in Japan, and the language barrier
makes everything more
| > >>difficult. Also, selling/buying used computers is not
common here, so I'll
| > >>probably have to take a huge hit if I go that route.
We got the system for
| > >>130,000 yen (about $1200 US), much cheaper than normal
retail. Anyway, if
| > >>possible I would like to try and salvage something
from it to be cost
| > >>effective. Is it possible to do this? The low end SiS
740 video card is
| > >>built into the mobo, and there are no AGP slots.
| > >>
| > >>Make/name: Fujitsu FMV-Deskpower (Model: CE21C).
| > >>
| > >>AMD Anthalon XP 2100+
| > >>266 MHz system bus clock
| > >>256 MB memory (plus 512 MB stick I added)
| > >>120 GB HD
| > >>
| > >>Accessories: 17" flatscreen monitor with built-in
speakers, laser mouse,
| > >>DVD-R CD-RW drive, Ge-Force 5600 PCI card.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>I play a lot of games, so would like to have a decent
system, but don't need
| > >>to get an outrageously new/expensive type. Any advice
or recommendations
| > >>greatly appreciated!
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>Also, I'm having someone call the internet company for
me tomorrow morning
| > >>about max speeds. But if I understand correctly, ADSL
is the fastest hookup
| > >>here, offered through a company called Yahoo BB (Yahoo
broadband). I'm
| > >>getting about 26 M as my connection speed (sorry but I
don't know what 'M'
| > >>stands for - again the language barrier). I should
mention that BB was only
| > >>introduced in my region last year.
| > >>
| > >>So is this speed the ultimate bottleneck for online
gaming? Will an upgraded
| > >>system only be a waste?
| > >>
| > >>On a side note, I went to the 2 PC shops in my city
here. Believe it or not,
| > >>the ONLY PC that either of them carried that had an
AGP slot was their 'top
| > >>of the line' Sony Vaio model VGC-RA50L7. link and
specs:
| > >>
| > >>http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/VGC-RA70P/
| > >>
| > >>-HT tech intel Pentium 4 processor 3.20E GHz
| > >>-memory 512MB(256MB × 2)
| > >>(DDR 400)
| > >>-200GB HDD
| > >>-DVD±RWdrive(DVD+R 2)
| > >>-17" flatscreen monitor
| > >>-GeForce 5200 video card
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>This sells for the 'screaming deal' of 239,800 yen
(about $2200 US). At one
| > >>shop, the guy didn't even know what an AGP slot was! I
had to point out the
| > >>parts I was interested in while asking for advice! Not
exactly a confidence
| > >>booster.
| > >>
| > >>Anyway, it apperas as though laptops and unupgradable
'desktops' like I have
| > >>now, are the main fare in Japan. It may be possible to
get other stuff in
| > >>Osaka though, as it's a large center, but I'll have to
make a special trip
| > >>just to check it out, so it would be good to know what
I generaly want before
| > >>I go there.
| > >>
| > >>Again, thanks for your help!
| > >>Cheers! -j
| > >>
| >
 
N

Nathan McNulty

Those speeds may cause a bit of lag from time to time, but it should not
limit your system's actual performance. It all depends on what game you
are playing, how it is set up, and what bandwidth is required by that
game. Some use more than others and some you will notice more than
others. Personally, I would file a complaint with your DSL company as
they are not even providing you with 256k DSL. That is the base DSL
speed and you are paying for 2 MegaBit which should be about 8 times
faster. Check and see why this is.
 

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