Monitor doesn't get signal from vid card,

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Guest

my specs:

Motherboard: Intel D850GB,
CPU: P4 1.75Ghz
Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600 128MB,
Monitor: Gateway EV700
Memory: RIMM RAMBUS 512MB,
Hard Drive: 2x80GB HD
450W PSU

Now this setup has worked before, but I guess multiple instances of taking
it apart and putting it back together has taken it's toll.

When I power up my system, the fans all come on and the hard drive starts
making noise, so I think it's booting up. However my monitor is not getting
any signal. The monitor will start playing the test image when it gets
attached to the vid card, but it won't get any actual video data.

Now the vid card and monitor work fine when used on the other motherboard,
so I think the issue might be with this mobo, even though it worked fine
before.

And I don't think the problem is with me attaching the vid card faultily
because when i tried with my Geforce 3, the fan on that will turn on when I
boot up the system.

Well I hope I explained my problem thoroughly enough for you to help me.
 
D

D.Currie

TheBladeRoden said:
my specs:

Motherboard: Intel D850GB,
CPU: P4 1.75Ghz
Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600 128MB,
Monitor: Gateway EV700
Memory: RIMM RAMBUS 512MB,
Hard Drive: 2x80GB HD
450W PSU

Now this setup has worked before, but I guess multiple instances of taking
it apart and putting it back together has taken it's toll.

When I power up my system, the fans all come on and the hard drive starts
making noise, so I think it's booting up. However my monitor is not
getting
any signal. The monitor will start playing the test image when it gets
attached to the vid card, but it won't get any actual video data.

Now the vid card and monitor work fine when used on the other motherboard,
so I think the issue might be with this mobo, even though it worked fine
before.

And I don't think the problem is with me attaching the vid card faultily
because when i tried with my Geforce 3, the fan on that will turn on when
I
boot up the system.

Well I hope I explained my problem thoroughly enough for you to help me.

Take it all apart again, leaving just the motherboard, memory, processor,
and video card. Power supply, obviously. You can do this outside the case,
if you want, to verify that nothing on the case is shorting. Leave the
drives unplugged from power, and the ide/floppy cables unplugged from the
motherboard. See if it turns on. If no, you can remove memory and/or vid
card. You should get an interesting beep from the motherboard. If no beeps,
the motherboard is likely the problem, as it should at least be able to
signal a video or memory error.

If it does post with just the mobo, proc, mem and vid, start adding
components back one at a time. Either you'll find one that's gone bad, or
you'll find out that there was an assembly problem before.
 
G

Guest

D.Currie said:
Take it all apart again, leaving just the motherboard, memory, processor,
and video card. Power supply, obviously. You can do this outside the case,
if you want, to verify that nothing on the case is shorting. Leave the
drives unplugged from power, and the ide/floppy cables unplugged from the
motherboard. See if it turns on. If no, you can remove memory and/or vid
card. You should get an interesting beep from the motherboard. If no beeps,
the motherboard is likely the problem, as it should at least be able to
signal a video or memory error.

If it does post with just the mobo, proc, mem and vid, start adding
components back one at a time. Either you'll find one that's gone bad, or
you'll find out that there was an assembly problem before.


Ok so i stripped the mobo of almost everything. When it doesn't have video
card or memory, I get 3 long beeps. With a vid card and without memory I get
3 long beeps. When I have memory but no vid card I get no beeps. And when I
have both vid card and memory I get no beeps. In all cases the fans turned on
but there was still no video signal.
 
S

Snufkin

D.Currie's suggestions are all good.

There's more troubleshooting information and general
motherboard info available at
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS
-010256.htm .

In addition to Currie's suggestions, either check the
power leads with appropriate equipment (if available), or
consider temporarily replacing the power supply. Sometimes
a faulty power supply can cause this sort of issue,
especially when only one or a few leads die.

If you do trace the problem to the motherboard, don't give
up hope yet. I've dealt with an Intel motherboard with
onboard video that exhibited a similar issue when first
installed. In that case, the CMOS was somehow corrupted
and had to be reset. If you run out of other options,
consider trying to reset the CMOS.

Looking through the manual, it appears there's a jumper
you can move to load BIOS defaults, so that may be worth a
try. Also note that if the jumper was accidentally
removed, the board may be trying to recover its BIOS using
a floppy. So check the jumper to make certain it's in the
proper place.
 
S

Snufkin

Just as an addition to my prior response, given the new
information:

3 beeps indicates there's an error in the first 64k of
memory. That's hardly surprising, since you get 3 beeps
only when you remove the memory.

The good new is this indicates the motherboard is working,
at least to some extent.
 
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francis gérard

TheBladeRoden said:
my specs:

Motherboard: Intel D850GB,
CPU: P4 1.75Ghz
Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600 128MB,
Monitor: Gateway EV700
Memory: RIMM RAMBUS 512MB,
Hard Drive: 2x80GB HD
450W PSU

Now this setup has worked before, but I guess multiple instances of taking
it apart and putting it back together has taken it's toll.

When I power up my system, the fans all come on and the hard drive starts
making noise, so I think it's booting up. However my monitor is not
getting
any signal. The monitor will start playing the test image when it gets
attached to the vid card, but it won't get any actual video data.

Now the vid card and monitor work fine when used on the other motherboard,
so I think the issue might be with this mobo, even though it worked fine

are there any abnormal POST beep codes?

AGP video card or CPU firmly seated in their sockets?

possibly bad/failing RAM, if more than 2 RAM modules, try populating only
Bank0, alternating b/w modules to see if one of them is bad. unplug all PCI
cards and disconnect all other hardware from mainboard except keyboard and
AGP video card/monitor while testing. when pulling/plugging adapter cards,
turn OFF AC to the power supply, allow at least 30seconds for power supply
to discharge (PCI slots are live, even when computer is turned off). if
computer is plugged into a power bar, turn off the power bar switch but
leave the computer and power bar plugged in, that will keep the chassis
grounded while you work on the machine, so if your skin maintains contact
with the grounded chassis, static will not build-up on your body.

diagnostic beep codes for intel boards:
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-010249.htm

support for d850gb board:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/

d850gb issues:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/lk_issues.htm

AGP compatibility:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-009010.htm

d850gb RAM:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013246.htm
 
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francis gérard

i assume you don't have another video card laying around (PCI or AGP) that
you could use to test the Intel board?
 
G

Guest

Perhaps it has something to do with my attempts to replace the bettery a few
das ago.
 
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francis gérard

TheBladeRoden said:
Perhaps it has something to do with my attempts to replace the bettery a
few
das ago.

ummm, interesting... replacing the battery should not corrupt the BIOS,
although the board may lose system parameters stored in the CMOS, in which
case the system is supposed to reload the default parameters from in the
BIOS

who knows, you may need to put the board into BIOS recovery mode (see url
below), i've done this with an Intel board in the past, you need a floppy
disk with the BIOS image file on it, set jumper J8C2 to recovery mode, put
disk in drive, turn ON computer and system will reload the BIOS boot block.
when the process is complete, it notifies you with a beep. turn off the
power, reposition the BIOS recovery jumper to normal mode, start system.

Intel® Desktop Board D850GB
Configuration Jumpers

http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013239.htm
Intel® Desktop Board D850GB
Recommended BIOS Version

http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013260.htm

Intel BIOS Recovery Process:
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/recoverybios.htm

http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d845ebt/sb/cs-002905-prd952.htm
 
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francis gérard

TheBladeRoden said:
On this page
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scr...uctID=486&OSFullName=Windows*+XP+Home+Edition

all I'm seeing are .exe files and I think I need a .bio file

go here:
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013260.htm

click on the 'BIOS P06 or later' link, chose OS Independent from the
listbox, press GO, you will see the BIOS for the D850GB. download the BIOS
self-extracting archive to a temporary directory, open a command-console
(dos prompt) in the temporary directory, run the 'gb-p18.exe' executable, it
will self-extract to the same directory, put a floppy in the drive, type
RUN.BAT, press Enter. a bootable floppy with the .BIO files will be
created. when completed, move the floppy disk into the drive of the Intel
machine, configure the BIOS jumper for recovery mode, start the system,
there will be NO video, wait for BIOS boot block to be recovered from the
floppy, the system should turn OFF when the process is complete. move
jumper back to normal position, restart system. you may also want to use
same the same floppy to reflash the BIOS, as i'm not sure if the the
recovery process only updates the boot block or the entire BIOS.

goodluck
 
N

Nathan McNulty

I am surprised nobody has metioned this yet. You have an i850G chipset.
This means you have an integrated video controller. By changing the
battery out, you have reset the BIOS settings which default back to the
integrated video card. Try connecting the monitor to the other video
source ;)
 
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francis gérard

Nathan McNulty said:
I am surprised nobody has metioned this yet. You have an i850G chipset.
This means you have an integrated video controller. By changing the battery
out, you have reset the BIOS settings which default back to the integrated
video card. Try connecting the monitor to the other video source ;)

the Intel D850GB does not have onboard video
 
T

Tom

francis gérard said:
and of course, you're right, that was also the first thing i thought of, but
being unfamiliar with the D850GB, i looked it up on the Intel site to see if
it had integrated video, which it does not

http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/

Do you think Nathan is so dumb, that he couldn't grasp the first time you told him there is no integrated video on that particular MOBO model (at least until he replied to your initial response), or do you just like seeing yourself repeat the same thing over and over again?
 

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