Modifying MMC

[yaro137]

Is there a way to modify the left hand side pain of a custom mmc? I've
added a lot of items to it including other computers on the network
and I'd like to have them sorted in a different manner now but can't
see a way of doing that.
Thanks
yaro

 

[VanguardLH]

Is there a way to modify the left hand side pain of a custom mmc?
I've
added a lot of items to it including other computers on the network
and I'd like to have them sorted in a different manner now but can't
see a way of doing that.
Thanks
yaro

If you didn't use mmc.exe and save the modified one in author mode
then you don't get to edit the saved mmc. An MMC that is created and
then saved in user mode means no one can modify that saved mmc applet,
not even you.

 

[yaro137]

If you didn't use mmc.exe and save the modified one in author mode
then you don't get to edit the saved mmc.  An MMC that is created and
then saved in user mode means no one can modify that saved mmc applet,
not even you.

Thanks but have you actually tried it yourself?
yaro

 

[VanguardLH]

If you didn't use mmc.exe and save the modified one in author mode
then you don't get to edit the saved mmc. An MMC that is created and
then saved in user mode means no one can modify that saved mmc
applet,
not even you.

Thanks but have you actually tried it yourself?
yaro



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I have used mmc.exe; for example, to create a separate console for
certificate management. I figured that I didn't want the saved mmc
applet to be changed and switched to user mode when I saved the new
console. However, later I wanted to change it but couldn't because it
was in user mode. I had to recreate the console but save in author
mode. If you don't want to recreate the console, start as "mmc.exe
<file>.msc /a" to bring up in author mode. Author and user modes are
described in the help included with MMC under its Help menu.

 

[yaro137]

If you didn't use mmc.exe and save the modified one in author mode
then you don't get to edit the saved mmc. An MMC that is created and
then saved in user mode means no one can modify that saved mmc
applet,
not even you.

Thanks but have you actually tried it yourself?
yaro

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I have used mmc.exe; for example, to create a separate console for
certificate management.  I figured that I didn't want the saved mmc
applet to be changed and switched to user mode when I saved the new
console.  However, later I wanted to change it but couldn't because it
was in user mode.  I had to recreate the console but save in author
mode.  If you don't want to recreate the console, start as "mmc.exe
<file>.msc /a" to bring up in author mode.  Author and user modes are
described in the help included with MMC under its Help menu.

I've just red my first post and so I know why the confusion. By
modifying the right hand side pane I meant rearranging the order
of objects. E.g. I wanted to have Event viewer snap-ins connected
to different PCs all together, similarly I wanted to have all device
manager objects linked with different computers all together and so
on.
While creating the custom mmc I was just adding whatever I thought
I'll need. Now although I can easyly remove those I don't need any
more
I cant find a way to modify/rearrange the objects in the right hand
side
pane. So just out of pure curiosity I would like to know whether it
can be done.
Thanks
yaro

 

[VanguardLH]

If you didn't use mmc.exe and save the modified one in author mode
then you don't get to edit the saved mmc. An MMC that is created
and
then saved in user mode means no one can modify that saved mmc
applet,
not even you.

Thanks but have you actually tried it yourself?
yaro

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I have used mmc.exe; for example, to create a separate console for
certificate management. I figured that I didn't want the saved mmc
applet to be changed and switched to user mode when I saved the new
console. However, later I wanted to change it but couldn't because
it
was in user mode. I had to recreate the console but save in author
mode. If you don't want to recreate the console, start as "mmc.exe
<file>.msc /a" to bring up in author mode. Author and user modes are
described in the help included with MMC under its Help menu.

I've just red my first post and so I know why the confusion. By
modifying the right hand side pane I meant rearranging the order
of objects. E.g. I wanted to have Event viewer snap-ins connected
to different PCs all together, similarly I wanted to have all device
manager objects linked with different computers all together and so
on.
While creating the custom mmc I was just adding whatever I thought
I'll need. Now although I can easyly remove those I don't need any
more
I cant find a way to modify/rearrange the objects in the right hand
side
pane. So just out of pure curiosity I would like to know whether it
can be done.
Thanks
yaro




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I figured the problem was the ability to *modify* what you put into
the MMC. Apparently the problem is how to order the items listed in
the MMC. Nope, I don't know how to modify the view order - well, not
by using the MMC.exe applet. The tree pane (left-side) shows the
snap-ins in the order you added them. You can sort the list pane
(right-side) by clicking on a column header. You could choose NOT to
show the tree pane and just show a list pane where you can select the
ordering.

The saved .msc file is an XML file. That means it is all text. That
means you could edit the XML .msc file to rearrange the order of the
objects listed in it. I used XML Notepad 2007 (a download from
Microsoft) to look at the .msc file. The objects you added are under
the StringTable. I didn't bother to figure out how those strings are
ordered in the XML since I have no interest to do that. The string
IDs don't look to specify view order. My guess is the string ID (a
number) is used under the ScopeTree under Nodes for each node listed
to specify what string to display for the classID that is the snap-in.
So you can probably change the order of the nodes in the tree pane.
Enjoy trying to figure it out.