MMC 7.1 and power management

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GTT

ATIMMC works fine when I first boot computer, but after I leave for a
while and come back ATIMMC.exe will not open it just sits and I have
to cancel it and reboot.

I figured out that after power management turned of my monitor this
somehow interferes with the reloading of ATIMMC.

Anyone else come across this or have suggestions how to work around
and still use power management.

System is AMD 1700 xp with 98se.

I have tried reinstalling MMC.
 
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Paul Murphy

Later versions of MMC may be more reliable regarding newer power management
capabilities. If your ATI card is a Radeon or newer, have you considered the
MMC 8.1 upgrade CDROM?

Finally, have you checked that your machines BIOS settings permit the OS to
fully control power management issues?

Paul
 
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GTT

My card is an old AIW 128 and I understand 7.1 is the latest I can
use with this card and win 98se.

Regarding the bios settings suggestion what should I look for? Am
pretty green when it comes to making bios setting adjustments.

Worked fine with win98se on my old celeron 386. This problem has
occurred since I recently upgraded.
 
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Paul Murphy

New Hard drive??? you do realise that you can format the existing one and
use that again. If it's just some way of backing up your data that you need,
a CDRW drive is a much cheaper option.

Re chipset drivers, you'll need to find out what should be installed for
your OS from the CDROM that came with the motherboard or board manufacturers
website. Windows XP and 2000 often has chipset drivers to suit some
chipsets. Are there any exclamation marks in device manager - that usually
indicates missing drivers.

Paul
 
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GTT

Actually under sound video and game controllers There is a yellow
exclamation mark against ATI multimedia video driver and under
properties it says " the MMDEVLDR.VXD device loader(s) for this device
could not load the device driver (code 2)"

I have fried to go through the steps to fix it but no drivers are
found. I have loaded all the ATI required drivers and when I point to
where they are located nothing is found.
 
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Paul Murphy

That means that all required drivers aren't loaded for your OS. That
MMDEVLDR.VXD is a Microsoft supplied file but I'm not sure if it comes with
win98SE or DirectX. You could run "dxdiag" within windows (type dxdiag into
the run box and press enter) to see what ATI's own diagnostics picks up and
if you don't get any helpful results from that you could try reinstalling
DirectX.

An important earlier question has gone unanswered - how did you do the
motherboard upgrade - was Windows installed on a freshly formatted hard disk
after the new board was installed or did you just swap motherboards? Do you
have the knowledge/ability to back up your data and do a fresh install if
not already done? Answers to these are needed to progress.

Paul
 
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GTT

Paul in one of my previous posts I indicated a new hard drive and a
fresh installation of windows 98se was made. This computer is a
complete new entity with nothing moved from previous hard drive except
for data..

I ran dxdiag and it didn't indicate any problems. You say below " to
see what ATI's own diagnostics picks up" but isn't the dxdiag a
windows directx diagnostic?
 
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Paul Murphy

You wrote "I guess for now I will concentrate on the bios end. New hard
drive and completely fresh windows install on this system." Given that you
had asked questions related to BIOS configuration and your second sentence
was incomplete (I noted the fullstop and capital N), my interpretation was
that these were ALL things you were considering/concentrating on (perhaps
after previous attempts) - hence my querying the need for a new hard drive.
Thanks for clarifying that information.

I still need to know if you've installed all the motherboard drivers on your
Win98SE installation (irrespective of that one device manager exclamation
mark). Did YOU do the OS installation or did someone do it for you? If you
did it yourself you should know, if not, it won't hurt to install them all
again. How did your reading up on BIOS options go? I hope you were able to
confirm the settings are right - I don't have your board and the specific
options will differ from my hardware. Finally, under Windows 98SE, if you
install it on some ACPI compatible motherboards (which yours will be), you
will likely need to use a switch during installation to force it into an
ACPI installation (rather than just APM). As this is power related, it may
also hold a clue as to what's going on. Here's the MSFT KB article on it:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q186111 When you
shut down your machine from Windows, does it turn off completely or go to a
black screen with orange writing telling you its safe to turn off your
machine?

Re the question you raised below, please replace the "to" with an "and" in
my sentence. Its been a while since I've used MMC 7.1 so I'm not sure how to
find its compatibility checker. On slightly newer versions than you have,
there was a cube looking MMC related icon under control panel, perhaps yours
is the same? There is also a problem report wizard built into many ATI
drivers (accessible through right clicking on the ATI system tray icon). If
you run this, it should generate a text file with relevant details and
provide clues to any problems. Yes you're right about dxdiag, it is a MSFT
provided tool for DirectX.

Paul
 
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Graeme Ellis

Remove all the ATI & video drivers & devices in Safe mode reboot. Should
pick up devices again. Maybe a registry problem.
 

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