Microsoft VM

[George Mooth]

I still use Microsoft's VM. Will Vista support MSVM?

Thank you,

 

[=?iso-8859-1?Q?Daniel_Mart=EDn_=5BMVP_Windows=5D?=]

George,

Vista does not include the MS Java VM. Support for MSJVM will finish on
December 31, 2007 so I'd recommend you move away in a timely fashion. Read
this article: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/.

 

[Robert Moir]

I still use Microsoft's VM. Will Vista support MSVM?

Do you mean the Microsoft Java VM?

I don't think Vista will support it. I hope it doesn't. The MS JVM is
hopelessly outdated, has had several serious flaws in the past that render
it horribly insecure, and I don't think MS are even attempting to support it
any more.

Is there any reason you can't use the SUN JVM? It isn't perfect, but it's
supported and actively being developed.

 

[Red nosed reindeer]

www.java.com

get you cup here

 

[Richard G. Harper]

But on the other hand, the SUN JVM is horribly slow, has no comprehensive
security update functionality, leaves old code behind when you update, and
has to be completely reinstalled every time they do patch a security flaw.

The worst day for Java on web sites and for users was the day Microsoft told
Sun, "We give up."

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[Robert Moir]

But on the other hand, the SUN JVM is horribly slow,

Not sure that is the case nowadays. It used to be very bad, I agreee.

has no
comprehensive security update functionality, leaves old code behind
when you update, and has to be completely reinstalled every time they
do patch a security flaw.

Indeed. I absolutely agree. When I say "It isn't perfect" that can cover a
multitude of sins.

The worst day for Java on web sites and for users was the day
Microsoft told Sun, "We give up."

Maybe things will improve now they've open sourced Java? The Microsoft JVM
had a lot of problems of its own, of course.

 

[mikeyhsd]

MSJVM installs and runs perfect in both 32 and 64 bit vista rtm.
many people have reported problems with the other java.



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I still use Microsoft's VM. Will Vista support MSVM?

Thank you,

 

[Kevin John Panzke]

Microsoft will soon discontinue all support for the Microsoft Java Virtual
Machine, as a result of the Java Lawsuit Settlement with Sun Microsystems,
Just FYI. I strongly recommend that you use Sun's Microsystems Version of
Java Runtime Environment instead, Just FYI. See the following website for
more information: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java and download Sun
Microsystems version of Java Runtime Environment (Sun JRE) from
http://www.java.com/ just FYI.

 

[Richard G. Harper]

Oh, I know it still is. We have to have it on my computers at work and it's
still a dog even on a multiprocessor system. When I have to log onto a
network device or printer that uses a Java display console I always reach
for my Windows 2000 box with the Microsoft JVM installed.

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[George Mooth]

Great to hear Mickey, thank you. I have MS JVM on disc so I will
use it when the time comes. I don't like Sun Java. Fonts look bad
on my machine compared to MS JVM. And it is slower.

Geo.

And thank you to all others who have responded to this thread.
You just didn't say what I wanted to hear. LOL

 

[Dale]

But Microsoft isn't providing any support for their VM anymore, are they?
Even security patches?

Dale

 

[Richard G. Harper]

Sadly, they are not. It's probably time for those who need security in
their JVM to uninstall the Microsoft JVM and install the latest Sun JVM
instead. And that would be just about everyone.

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