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So REALbasic comes with the enterprise class version control system, bug
tracking, unit testing, load testing, and coverage analysis tools that we
have to pay $10,000 to MS for if we need the team suite?
I don't think so...
If you're comparing apples to apples, then MS is charging less for their
product than they were before the Visual Studio Team System introduction.
While I'm still disappointed with the pricing, suggesting that MS is trying
to shut out the small business & individual developers is WAAAY overstating
the case. Especially with the cut in MSDN pricing.
Have you noticed that aside from version control, most of VSTS wouldn't be
used by an individual developer? How many small developers do you know that
run load testing? Most of us don't because LoadRunner and its ilk cost a
small fortune. And I personally don't have a flock of PCs to hammer my
webserver with.
Sure, I'd like to get all that fun stuff in VSTS for free, but if I had to
pay just an extra $500 for it all, I'm not sure I would.
Out of curiosity, how long have you been a programmer? I ask not to
disparage you, but I'm curious if you've gone through this (the retiring of a
programming language or technology that you've mastered) before. It really
sounds like you've not accepted that this diatribe is by and large a waste of
time. The market's accepted .Net (because the reality is that the framework
has a LOT of nice stuff in it that you'd otherwise have to buy or download
for other environments) and is in the process of moving on.
If software development is your career, you're eventually going to have to
accept that this happens at LEAST once a decade. I've watched Fortran,
Cobol, C, Paradox, C++, and now VB come and go. Yeah, there are still Cobol
programmers out there, but I wouldn't want to be one of them - sitting around
and drooling over the idea of having an editor with intellisense.
So, do you really want to fight this hard to become the Cobol programmer of
tomorrow?
tracking, unit testing, load testing, and coverage analysis tools that we
have to pay $10,000 to MS for if we need the team suite?
I don't think so...
If you're comparing apples to apples, then MS is charging less for their
product than they were before the Visual Studio Team System introduction.
While I'm still disappointed with the pricing, suggesting that MS is trying
to shut out the small business & individual developers is WAAAY overstating
the case. Especially with the cut in MSDN pricing.
Have you noticed that aside from version control, most of VSTS wouldn't be
used by an individual developer? How many small developers do you know that
run load testing? Most of us don't because LoadRunner and its ilk cost a
small fortune. And I personally don't have a flock of PCs to hammer my
webserver with.
Sure, I'd like to get all that fun stuff in VSTS for free, but if I had to
pay just an extra $500 for it all, I'm not sure I would.
Out of curiosity, how long have you been a programmer? I ask not to
disparage you, but I'm curious if you've gone through this (the retiring of a
programming language or technology that you've mastered) before. It really
sounds like you've not accepted that this diatribe is by and large a waste of
time. The market's accepted .Net (because the reality is that the framework
has a LOT of nice stuff in it that you'd otherwise have to buy or download
for other environments) and is in the process of moving on.
If software development is your career, you're eventually going to have to
accept that this happens at LEAST once a decade. I've watched Fortran,
Cobol, C, Paradox, C++, and now VB come and go. Yeah, there are still Cobol
programmers out there, but I wouldn't want to be one of them - sitting around
and drooling over the idea of having an editor with intellisense.
So, do you really want to fight this hard to become the Cobol programmer of
tomorrow?