Microsoft Feels the Heat

[Alias]

CNET: "If I ask you who is Microsoft's biggest competitor now, who would it
be?"

Steve Ballmer: "Open...Linux. I don't want to say open source. Linux,
certainly
have to go with that."

http://www.news.com/Feeling-the-heat-at-Microsoft/2008-1012_3-6232458.html?tag=ne.fd.mnbc

Also from the
Microsoft loses 90 Billion Dollars [in less than a year]

http://slated.org/microsoft_loses_90_billion_dollars

Alias

 

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[Bill]

who gives **** man go bury yourself under a mugabe rock if that's what you
like and leave this group. you are a brain dead POS

 

[fb]

Alias wrote:

Microsoft loses 90 Billion Dollars [in less than a year]
----------------------------------------------------------------

That's an incorrect statement.
MS didn't lose one penny of real money. Their stock value declined, just
like Apple's fell (17%!) and so did Google's.
It is all just a paper loss for those companies and unless a share
holder sells they too suffer only a paper loss.

I bet that pisses you off doesn't it alias?

 

[Alias]

Alias wrote:

Microsoft loses 90 Billion Dollars [in less than a year]

Take it up with the author.

MS didn't lose one penny of real money. Their stock value declined, just
like Apple's fell (17%!) and so did Google's.

Yeah that happens when you have an idiot like Bush at the helm and a nut
case like Ballmer heading up MS. The dollar ain't doing too well either.

It is all just a paper loss for those companies and unless a share
holder sells they too suffer only a paper loss.

LOL! "Only" a paper loss?

I bet that pisses you off doesn't it alias?

Doesn't affect me one way or the other. Back ten years, people who used
computers didn't know much better. The times they are a-changing and not
in Microsoft's favor.

Alias

 

[Alias]

who gives ****

You do or you wouldn't have bothered to open the message.

man go bury yourself under a mugabe rock if that's what you
like and leave this group. you are a brain dead POS

Tsk, tsk, profanity is a violation of MS NEWS Public news groups EULA.
Shame on you!

Alias

 

[fb]

Alias wrote:

Microsoft loses 90 Billion Dollars [in less than a year]

Take it up with the author.

The author didn't post it. You did.

Yeah that happens when you have an idiot like Bush at the helm and a nut
case like Ballmer heading up MS.

Maybe you missed the fact that MS just had one of it's most profitable
qrt's ever.

The dollar ain't doing too well either.

That is both good and bad. Depends on what you're looking at.

LOL! "Only" a paper loss?

Yeah, a "paper loss" is only a loss on paper. Not a real tangible
financial loss unless you sell at a price that is lower than the price
at which you bought.

Doesn't affect me one way or the other. Back ten years, people who used
computers didn't know much better. The times they are a-changing and not
in Microsoft's favor.

Again, MS just had one of their very best qrts, financially speaking. I
bet that fact also pisses you off.
Good!...LOL!

 

[Alias]

Alias wrote:

Microsoft loses 90 Billion Dollars [in less than a year]

Take it up with the author.

The author didn't post it. You did.

Yeah that happens when you have an idiot like Bush at the helm and a
nut case like Ballmer heading up MS.

Maybe you missed the fact that MS just had one of it's most profitable
qrt's ever.

The dollar ain't doing too well either.

That is both good and bad. Depends on what you're looking at.

LOL! "Only" a paper loss?

Yeah, a "paper loss" is only a loss on paper. Not a real tangible
financial loss unless you sell at a price that is lower than the price
at which you bought.

Doesn't affect me one way or the other. Back ten years, people who
used computers didn't know much better. The times they are a-changing
and not in Microsoft's favor.

Again, MS just had one of their very best qrts, financially speaking. I
bet that fact also pisses you off.
Good!...LOL!

Get back to me when you understand basic economics. It's obvious that
you don't have even a rudimentary understanding.

Alias

 

[Ringmaster]

Alias wrote:

Microsoft loses 90 Billion Dollars [in less than a year]

Take it up with the author.

MS didn't lose one penny of real money. Their stock value declined, just
like Apple's fell (17%!) and so did Google's.

Yeah that happens when you have an idiot like Bush at the helm and a nut
case like Ballmer heading up MS. The dollar ain't doing too well either.

It is all just a paper loss for those companies and unless a share
holder sells they too suffer only a paper loss.

LOL! "Only" a paper loss?

You got to remember the very limited mental abilities of Frank the
wannabe business wiz. While a "paper loss" it is also a very real loss
is the market value of the underlying stock. The banking industry is a
prime example. In the past 18 months in the US the sector has seen
losses between 35-90% in market capitalization. That's a major hit.

This is far more than a mere paper loss. It is also a loss to the
corporation's ability to raise new capital and if they try again like
some of the banks have that dilutes the value of the stock for current
stockholders and that is a REAL loss, not a paper loss because the
number of outstanding shares often go up dramatically which usually
results in the underlying stocking losing more ground as investors
sell.

What's so damn funny to me is Frank keeps claiming he runs a business
and he keeps showing he doesn't understand a damn thing about
business, not ever at a elementary level.

Just curious Alias, what's the tax rates for corporations like in
Spain? They have capital gains tax breaks for investors?

 

[Ringmaster]

Maybe you missed the fact that MS just had one of it's most profitable
qrt's ever.

No maybe about it. You Frank being a world class rummy don't
understand that Microsoft shareholders don't share in Microsoft's
record profits with them only paying a lousy 1.68% return via
dividends.

Keep it up Frank. You're doing a really good job (as usual) of proving
what a clueless idiot you always are.

The dollar ain't doing too well either.

That is both good and bad. Depends on what you're looking at.

Again, Frank's wisdom comes shining through. Yea right. If only. A
weak dollar benefits foreigners and exporters. That's about it. Every
one else suffers. I would say at least $5 maybe $10 of the current
inflated market oil prices are because of the weak dollar. Also a weak
dollar makes foreign investors look elsewhere to invest their money
while others with deep pockets can buy up American companies on the
cheap. Both bad for our economy.

Frank, you would be better off keeping your mouth shut rather than
commenting on things you know little about. Unless of course you enjoy
me painting you the fool regardless of topic.

I'm sure even you have seen Boon Pickens info commercials where a guy
that made billions in oil now says 70% of our oil is coming from
offshore and we're in the middle of the biggest wealth transfer out of
America to other parts of the world at pace not dreamed of in the
past. That spells trouble with a capital T and a weak dollar is one of
the prime drivers.

But Frank, never mind, you just keep babbling your nonsense if it
makes you feel important.

 

[fb]

fb wrote:

Alias wrote:

Microsoft loses 90 Billion Dollars [in less than a year]
----------------------------------------------------------------

That's an incorrect statement.



Take it up with the author.

The author didn't post it. You did.

MS didn't lose one penny of real money. Their stock value declined,
just like Apple's fell (17%!) and so did Google's.



Yeah that happens when you have an idiot like Bush at the helm and a
nut case like Ballmer heading up MS.

Maybe you missed the fact that MS just had one of it's most profitable
qrt's ever.

The dollar ain't doing too well either.

That is both good and bad. Depends on what you're looking at.

It is all just a paper loss for those companies and unless a share
holder sells they too suffer only a paper loss.



LOL! "Only" a paper loss?

Yeah, a "paper loss" is only a loss on paper. Not a real tangible
financial loss unless you sell at a price that is lower than the price
at which you bought.

I bet that pisses you off doesn't it alias?



Doesn't affect me one way or the other. Back ten years, people who
used computers didn't know much better. The times they are a-changing
and not in Microsoft's favor.

Again, MS just had one of their very best qrts, financially speaking.
I bet that fact also pisses you off.
Good!...LOL!

Get back to me when you understand basic economics. It's obvious that
you don't have even a rudimentary understanding.

Alias

Nice try at backpedaling.
It's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.
Oh, I forgot, you're far too broke to afford Vista let along any
investments.

 

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[fb]

No maybe about it.

Yep! I was right!

You Frank being a world class rummy don't

understand that Microsoft shareholders don't share in Microsoft's
record profits with them only paying a lousy 1.68% return via
dividends.

You idiot moron I never said they did, did I? You said that. Not me.
You can't refute one thing I said as not being factual. So you try and
argue about something I didn't say. Nice try, but no cigar!
But you're pretty good at your stupid assumptions aren't you?

Keep it up Frank. You're doing a really good job (as usual) of proving
what a clueless idiot you always are.

I'm not the clueless idiot trying to argue about something someone else
didn't say. That would be you. Why don't you try and prove what I really
said about "paper losses' as not being true.
Well?
Oh, I see, because it is true and that would make you look the fool you
really are.
You lose.

Again, Frank's wisdom comes shining through. Yea right. If only. A
weak dollar benefits foreigners and exporters. That's about it. Every
one else suffers. I would say at least $5 maybe $10 of the current
inflated market oil prices are because of the weak dollar. Also a weak
dollar makes foreign investors look elsewhere to invest their money
while others with deep pockets can buy up American companies on the
cheap. Both bad for our economy.

I guess and uneducated idiot moron like can't understand..."Depends on
what you're looking at". A weak dollar is bad for some and good for some.
Oh, you can't deal with the truth, can you?
So you lose.

Frank, you would be better off keeping your mouth shut rather than
commenting on things you know little about. Unless of course you enjoy
me painting you the fool regardless of topic.

Obviously you couldn't paint a dead minke as a fool. Try dealing with
what someone says rather than what you wish they had said.
You lose asswipe.

I'm sure even you have seen Boon Pickens info commercials where a guy
that made billions in oil now says 70% of our oil is coming from
offshore and we're in the middle of the biggest wealth transfer out of
America to other parts of the world at pace not dreamed of in the
past. That spells trouble with a capital T and a weak dollar is one of
the prime drivers.

Well mr gotemeyer, again that was not any part of any post you're trying
to refer to from me.
Again, you lose.

But Frank, never mind, you just keep babbling your nonsense if it
makes you feel important.

You still haven't addressed my actual post have you? You're afraid to
aren't you cause you know it was 100% correct.
Again, you lose. You make yourself look alike a fool.
It is one of your very best talents.
And again, you lose!...LOL!
Loser!

 

[Alias]

Alias wrote:

Microsoft loses 90 Billion Dollars [in less than a year]

Take it up with the author.

MS didn't lose one penny of real money. Their stock value declined, just
like Apple's fell (17%!) and so did Google's.

Yeah that happens when you have an idiot like Bush at the helm and a nut
case like Ballmer heading up MS. The dollar ain't doing too well either.

It is all just a paper loss for those companies and unless a share
holder sells they too suffer only a paper loss.

LOL! "Only" a paper loss?

You got to remember the very limited mental abilities of Frank the
wannabe business wiz. While a "paper loss" it is also a very real loss
is the market value of the underlying stock. The banking industry is a
prime example. In the past 18 months in the US the sector has seen
losses between 35-90% in market capitalization. That's a major hit.

This is far more than a mere paper loss. It is also a loss to the
corporation's ability to raise new capital and if they try again like
some of the banks have that dilutes the value of the stock for current
stockholders and that is a REAL loss, not a paper loss because the
number of outstanding shares often go up dramatically which usually
results in the underlying stocking losing more ground as investors
sell.

What's so damn funny to me is Frank keeps claiming he runs a business
and he keeps showing he doesn't understand a damn thing about
business, not ever at a elementary level.

He's a junk yard dog.

Just curious Alias, what's the tax rates for corporations like in
Spain? They have capital gains tax breaks for investors?

http://www.strongabogados.com/taxes.php

Alias

 

[fb]

Alias wrote:

Microsoft loses 90 Billion Dollars [in less than a year]

Take it up with the author.

MS didn't lose one penny of real money. Their stock value declined,

just like Apple's fell (17%!) and so did Google's.


Yeah that happens when you have an idiot like Bush at the helm and a nut case like Ballmer heading up MS. The dollar ain't doing too well either.

It is all just a paper loss for those companies and unless a share

holder sells they too suffer only a paper loss.


LOL! "Only" a paper loss?

You got to remember the very limited mental abilities of Frank the
wannabe business wiz. While a "paper loss" it is also a very real loss
is the market value of the underlying stock. The banking industry is a
prime example. In the past 18 months in the US the sector has seen
losses between 35-90% in market capitalization. That's a major hit.

But that is not what I said is it mr gotemeyer? Making up what you wish
others has said is a mental illness isn't it mr gotemeyer? I believe
it's called dementia, and you really seem to be suffering from it.

This is far more than a mere paper loss. It is also a loss to the
corporation's ability to raise new capital and if they try again like
some of the banks have that dilutes the value of the stock for current
stockholders and that is a REAL loss, not a paper loss because the
number of outstanding shares often go up dramatically which usually
results in the underlying stocking losing more ground as investors
sell.

Hold on mr gotemeyer, you're off on a tangent diatribing about someone
no disputes yet has nothing to do with my post. What I say about "paper
loss" was factual and irrefutable.
And a 6% drop in stock value for MS is proly temporary and means nothing
to MS in terms of available capital, of which they have billions!

What's so damn funny to me is Frank keeps claiming he runs a business
and he keeps showing he doesn't understand a damn thing about
business, not ever at a elementary level.

Sorry asswipe, but you've still not addressed my actual post and have
gone on a tangent about something no said.
No wonder you've been unemployed and proly unemployable for the last
20+yrs...you're can't stay focused and on subject. You are most
definitely suffering from dementia!
Again, you lose!...LOL!

Just curious Alias, what's the tax rates for corporations like in
Spain? They have capital gains tax breaks for investors?

How the hell would he know? He's like you...not in any kind of business!

 

[Ringmaster]

Yep! I was right!

You idiot moron I never said they did, did I? You said that. Not me.
You can't refute one thing I said as not being factual. So you try and
argue about something I didn't say. Nice try, but no cigar!
But you're pretty good at your stupid assumptions aren't you?

You really are a dummy. You claim Microsoft losing 90 billion is
"only" a paper loss. I explained why you don't understand the broader
implications.

I guess and uneducated idiot moron like can't understand..."Depends on
what you're looking at". A weak dollar is bad for some and good for some.
Oh, you can't deal with the truth, can you?
So you lose.

Again you show it is YOU that's uneducated.

Frank speak ===> I guess and uneducated...

Naturally you follow that with you usual insults and can't counter a
damn thing said that was factual. You're an idiot Frank. I'll keep
reminding you of that until you get it. How much longer will it take
for you to realize you stupidly about everything is no match for my
intellect? Another year, five more, ten more? How long Frank before
you wise up?

You still haven't addressed my actual post have you? You're afraid to
aren't you cause you know it was 100% correct.

You're a 100% idiot.

Again, you lose. You make yourself look alike a fool.
It is one of your very best talents.

More Frank speak ===> make yourself look alike a fool

The only talent you have is making a total jackass out of yourself.
You're really good at it Frank. Really.

 

[Hobbes]

You really are a dummy. You claim Microsoft losing 90 billion is
"only" a paper loss. I explained why you don't understand the broader
implications.

Again you show it is YOU that's uneducated.

Frank speak ===> I guess and uneducated...

Naturally you follow that with you usual insults and can't counter a
damn thing said that was factual. You're an idiot Frank. I'll keep
reminding you of that until you get it. How much longer will it take
for you to realize you stupidly about everything is no match for my
intellect? Another year, five more, ten more? How long Frank before
you wise up?


You're a 100% idiot.


More Frank speak ===> make yourself look alike a fool

The only talent you have is making a total jackass out of yourself.
You're really good at it Frank. Really.

If you were really smart, you'd have noticed the lack of progress any
of you are making.

How 'bout you all agree to being intelligent idiots, shake hands...and
move on already.

 

[Ringmaster]

If you were really smart, you'd have noticed the lack of progress any
of you are making.

Progress no, watching Frank make a fool of himself is amusing.

 

[FB]

You really are a dummy. You claim Microsoft losing 90 billion is
"only" a paper loss. I explained why you don't understand the broader
implications.



Again you show it is YOU that's uneducated.

Frank speak ===> I guess and uneducated...

Naturally you follow that with you usual insults and can't counter a
damn thing said that was factual. You're an idiot Frank. I'll keep
reminding you of that until you get it. How much longer will it take
for you to realize you stupidly about everything is no match for my
intellect? Another year, five more, ten more? How long Frank before
you wise up?




You're a 100% idiot.




More Frank speak ===> make yourself look alike a fool

The only talent you have is making a total jackass out of yourself.
You're really good at it Frank. Really.

Nice try at backpedaling mr gotemeyer, but you must be afraid to
actually address exactly what I posted.
Well, why are you afraid to deal with the truth, huh?

 

[FB]

Progress no, watching Frank make a fool of himself is amusing.

Watching you think you're watching me is even more entertaining!
You must be really drunk tonight huh mr gotemeyer?