metal cases

[WindsorFox]

Why go to all the trouble of validating your claim with FACTS?
It's much easier to just paste "Never could bullshit its way...."

Yeah... I just funny that way. I also don't try to drive attention
away from the subject by calling names and using profanity usually either.

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[Rod Speed]

That is wrong again.

Nope, its clearly a pathetically inadequate sample.

You just can't stop while you were only a little behind.

You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

I have a Nzxt Lexa, no metal contact. I have a Antec Sonata, no metal contact.

Even more of a pathetically inadequate sample.

ALL *good* cases that are intended for RAID systems that make issue with noise
will have no metal contact between drives and the rack.

Slithering off now to a tiny subset of cases sold.

The cheap POS $19.99 case with red and blue LEDs and a handle on top, it has
drives screwed directly to the rack.

All the cheap no name cases in fact. Which, wait for it,
ARE THE ABSOLUTE VAST BULK OF CASES SOLD.

The only reason the Lian Li does, is it is old and made before the anti-noise
revolution.

Pity about all those cheap no name cases, child.

It's not 1980 anymore pops.

Pity about all those cheap no name cases, child.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

There is no nope here.

You did manage to get that bit right. Thats due to your ear to ear dog shit.

If the case is made of aluminum it CAN keep the inside cooler.

Nope, the fans do most of that.

Aluminum cases arent warmer to the touch,
so they can be doing anything much cooling wise.

I have written reviews on numerous cases and done several tests involving
inside air temps of a system where the only difference was the case.

And your problem with ear to ear dog shit ensures that
those 'reviews' were always mindless steaming turds.

Wrong yet again, because an all aluminum Lian Li case did infact have a cooler
inside the case temp than a part steel part plastic case. I know that for a
fact, I did the work myself on the review.

Yet another pathetically inadequate sample.

 

[CBFalconer]

Rod Speed wrote:
.... nothing of importance ...

That is wrong again. You just can't stop while you were only a
little behind. I have a Nzxt Lexa, no metal contact. I have a Antec
Sonata, no metal contact. ALL *good* cases that are intended for RAID
systems that make issue with noise will have no metal contact between
drives and the rack. The cheap POS $19.99 case with red and blue LEDs
and a handle on top, it has drives screwed directly to the rack. The
only reason the Lian Li does, is it is old and made before the
anti-noise revolution. It's not 1980 anymore pops.

I count at least 5 current responses to Rod Speed here, of which
this is one. They are entirely pointless, and do nothing but waste
readers time and everybodies transmission resources. Please plonk
the troll, or at the least ignore its drivel.

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[Jim P Sharma]

Its your mindless shit that every is ignoring.

Funny that.

 

[xModem]

Its your mindless shit that every is ignoring.

Funny that.

Changing socks again, eh Roddy...

 

[kony]

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:59:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"

You've got that backwards given that the basic cases
sell in much bigger volume than the fancy expensive
cases that are designed to eliminate the sort of case
resonance that can happen with multiple hard drives,
because **** all of the cheap cases are intended to
have more than one hard drive used in them.

DOES NOT MATTER.

No cheap case, no basic case, is a very good 'sink for a
drive. It will 'sink away a little heat, but that's not
same thing as a LOT of heat, what makes something an
effective heatsink.

 

[kony]

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland, child.

So Rod, can we be Little Drug Crazed Child Fantasyland
Clowns Bullshitting Our Way Out of Wet Paper Bags???

Frankly, I think you need supply us more adjectives for the
bags.

 

[kony]

There is no nope here. If the case is made of aluminum it CAN keep
the inside cooler. I have written reviews on numerous cases and done
several tests involving inside air temps of a system where the only
difference was the case. Wrong yet again, because an all aluminum Lian
Li case did infact have a cooler inside the case temp than a part steel
part plastic case. I know that for a fact, I did the work myself on the
review.

I hate to admit it but Rod is right, there should be no
difference in chassis internal temp nor internal component
temps if the only difference is the chassis metal type,
UNLESS something is well-sunk to that metal.

 

[Rod Speed]

DOES NOT MATTER.

CORSE IT DOES.

No cheap case, no basic case, is a very good 'sink for a drive.

Wrong, as always.

It will 'sink away a little heat,

And that is all you need to do with a hard drive that doesnt produce
much heat and you have MORE metal to metal contact than you do
with a TO-220 case even if the drive does have a raised metal area
around the screw holes on the drive frame.

but that's not same thing as a LOT of heat,

There aint a LOT of heat with modern hard drives.

what makes something an effective heatsink.

Have fun explaining how come it handles my Samsung
drives fine, with no forced airflow over the drives at all,
because I prefer a very quiet system.

Keep desperately digging, you'll be out in china any day now, AGAIN.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

Frankly, I think

Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of
thought, child. Pathetic excuse for bullshit on the other hand...

 

[WindsorFox]

PITY THAT MOST OF THE MASS MARKET DRIVES DONT.


Nothing like what is seen with most hard drives in no name cases.

Done like a dinner, as always.

Wrong.

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[WindsorFox]

Wrong, as always.


The technical term for that is 'pathetically inadequate sample'



Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland, child.

You're wrong again pops. You need to get out in the world and look
around more. Get up to speed with the equipment that's really out there,
not the stuff that was on shelves 30 years ago. Get some Geritol man,
get moving before you get even farther behind and some whipper snapper
like me or Kony pops up to snatch your job away....

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Cadbury Moose

 

[WindsorFox]

Nope, its clearly a pathetically inadequate sample.


You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.


Even more of a pathetically inadequate sample.


Slithering off now to a tiny subset of cases sold.


All the cheap no name cases in fact. Which, wait for it,
ARE THE ABSOLUTE VAST BULK OF CASES SOLD.


Pity about all those cheap no name cases, child.


Pity about all those cheap no name cases, child.

Yeah, Antec, Lian Li and Chieftec are just cheap no-name cases. LOL
Look here, I found you a bargain, you better hop on it whilst you can
still hop... http://tinyurl.com/hcj3o

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Cadbury Moose

 

[WindsorFox]

Nope, the fans do most of that.

Aluminum cases arent warmer to the touch,
so they can be doing anything much cooling wise.

No nope here pops, all my aluminum cases are warmer than the plastic
ones and it's a scientific fact whether you say so or not that aluminum
conducts and radiates heat better than steel or plastic, so they WILL
help to keep inside ambient air cooler. I have proven that in a case
review a number of years ago.

And your problem with ear to ear dog shit ensures that
those 'reviews' were always mindless steaming turds.

That's what the inadequate do when they get proven wrong by those
who are more adequate, they resort to foul language and personal
attacks. It does not make my information any less accurate, it just
makes you look bad.

Yet another pathetically inadequate sample.

Yet another pathetically inadequate attempt to make yourself look
correct, when infact you are not. You're getting passed by technology
gramps...

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Cadbury Moose

 

[WindsorFox]

I hate to admit it but Rod is right, there should be no
difference in chassis internal temp nor internal component
temps if the only difference is the chassis metal type,
UNLESS something is well-sunk to that metal.

The Lian Li was one of the first 100% aluminum cases, it had a lower
ambient temp than all the other cases I put against it. This was with a
very over clocked AMD system with an over clocked Matrox video card, so
it was a system that you could have used as a space heater. Also the
differences were slight, but there were differences. There were lots of
reviews that showed this and that's when the all aluminum cases became
quite the rage.
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Pyongyang sounds more like the sound effect an ACME catapult makes
as it goes off at precisely the wrong moment for Wile E. Coyote. -
Cadbury Moose

 

[WindsorFox]

Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of
thought, child. Pathetic excuse for bullshit on the other hand...

What the evidence shows here is that you are apparently losing the
capability to think straight. Just like your comment on tube audio amps
you just throw out the first thing you think of and stick with it no
matter how incorrect it is. I suggest a supplement of Ginko Biloba along
with that Geritol. It should do wonders, and a little Paxil would help
that attitude problem.

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as it goes off at precisely the wrong moment for Wile E. Coyote. -
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[VWWall]

What the evidence shows here is that you are apparently losing the
capability to think straight. Just like your comment on tube audio amps
you just throw out the first thing you think of and stick with it no
matter how incorrect it is. I suggest a supplement of Ginko Biloba along
with that Geritol. It should do wonders, and a little Paxil would help
that attitude problem.

When you go to the circus to watch the clowns, you don't have to get
into the ring with them.

 

[CBFalconer]

Rod Speed wrote:
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You're wrong again pops. You need to get out in the world and look

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[kony]

The Lian Li was one of the first 100% aluminum cases, it had a lower
ambient temp than all the other cases I put against it.

That's quite possible due to case design instead of metal
type. FWIW, I have two identical cases made of steel and
aluminum (Turbo Gamer, made by same manufacturer as some
Antec cases) which are same temp with same parts... at one
point I swapped cases merely because I had front bay panels
for one that matched the color of the other case better.

This was with a
very over clocked AMD system with an over clocked Matrox video card, so
it was a system that you could have used as a space heater. Also the
differences were slight, but there were differences. There were lots of
reviews that showed this and that's when the all aluminum cases became
quite the rage.

Aluminum is not cooler. Another urban myth. You'd have to
have the chassis ambient (air) temp substantially higher
than the room air temp for the difference in aluminum's
conduction to matter. If your case's air temp is THAT high,
it was far too high for a system to run in it in the first
place. It is easy enough to tell if the case is helping-
feel the side of it... If it doesn't feel warm, there's not
enough of a temp difference to matter. If it does feel
warm, you need more chassis cooling as even the bare minimal
AMD and Intel recommendations will not let a chassis get
that hot unless the front bezel were a solid restrictive
panel.