Memory (RAM + PAGEFILE) management bug

[Guest]

Hello dear All, Helly dear Support,

I have a 1 GB RAM / 3.2 GHz P4C HT / 2x80 GB SATA HDD System, running wiht Win XP Pro SP1
(I don't think describing the video, LAN, or sound subsystem will be useful here)

My problem is here : when my computer is switched on, running properly, and having multiple applications already opened, although I still have plenty of RAM (physical memory) available, (and of course : more then plenty of PAGING FILE Space available), at a certain point, when I try to run an additionnal "heavy" application (like Photoshop CS), it displays various error message, which are obviously related to a problem of memory management (i.e : "unsuficient memory to complete operation" or "not enough memory to open windows" etc...

here are the details :

I usually open a lot of applications simultaneously (because I DO NEED THEM) : office software, (Word, Excel, Access, Outlook, etc...), SQL Server 2000 SGBD services running, Remedy ARS server processes, Visual Studio DEV Tool, many "IEXPLORE windows" opened, Paint Shop Pro 8, Photoshop 8, Minolta Dimage Viewer 2.2", Star Office 6, etc...

All together, these applications (and services) do consume a lot of memory, but I can still (and always) see in the "taskman" windows, that there is plenty of memory (both physical and virutal) left. The total "Commit charge (K)" is always "under" the limit commit charge (i.e : my current commit charge is about 980 MB (RAM+SWAP), and is FAR below the "limit commit charge available fot the system (2.8 GB "total virtual memory availabl" = 1 GB RAM + 1.8 GB PAGING FILE in my case)

why does Windows XP seem not to be able to correctly (I don't even speak about "efficienly"...) manage this amount of memory ?

why does my computer (as described above) not seem able to open more applications then my laptop (which also have the same problems, but "only" have 512 MB of RAM) ?

why does such a powerful computer (1 GB RAM) have problem with opening "many applications" at the same time, while windows (which is told to be very stable, very reliable, and which is told to be able to manage much more memory then that...) still reports available "physical" and "virtual" memory ?

are there known bugs and issues about that ?

what's the point of having 1 GB RAM (or more : I was planing to upgrade to 1.5 GB or 2 GB RAM) if the system sill can't do "more" than if I had only 512 MB RAM (which is already a lot) ???

thanks for your very welcomed help !

best regards,

J Baldec

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[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

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| Hello dear All, Helly dear Support,
|
| I have a 1 GB RAM / 3.2 GHz P4C HT / 2x80 GB SATA HDD System, running wiht Win XP Pro SP1
| (I don't think describing the video, LAN, or sound subsystem will be useful here)
|
| My problem is here : when my computer is switched on, running properly, and having multiple applications
already opened, although I still have plenty of RAM (physical memory) available, (and of course : more then
plenty of PAGING FILE Space available), at a certain point, when I try to run an additionnal "heavy"
application (like Photoshop CS), it displays various error message, which are obviously related to a problem
of memory management (i.e : "unsuficient memory to complete operation" or "not enough memory to open windows"
etc...
|
| here are the details :
|
| I usually open a lot of applications simultaneously (because I DO NEED THEM) : office software, (Word,
Excel, Access, Outlook, etc...), SQL Server 2000 SGBD services running, Remedy ARS server processes, Visual
Studio DEV Tool, many "IEXPLORE windows" opened, Paint Shop Pro 8, Photoshop 8, Minolta Dimage Viewer 2.2",
Star Office 6, etc...
|
| All together, these applications (and services) do consume a lot of memory, but I can still (and always) see
in the "taskman" windows, that there is plenty of memory (both physical and virutal) left. The total "Commit
charge (K)" is always "under" the limit commit charge (i.e : my current commit charge is about 980 MB
(RAM+SWAP), and is FAR below the "limit commit charge available fot the system (2.8 GB "total virtual memory
availabl" = 1 GB RAM + 1.8 GB PAGING FILE in my case)
|
| why does Windows XP seem not to be able to correctly (I don't even speak about "efficienly"...) manage this
amount of memory ?
|
| why does my computer (as described above) not seem able to open more applications then my laptop (which also
have the same problems, but "only" have 512 MB of RAM) ?
|
| why does such a powerful computer (1 GB RAM) have problem with opening "many applications" at the same time,
while windows (which is told to be very stable, very reliable, and which is told to be able to manage much
more memory then that...) still reports available "physical" and "virtual" memory ?
|
| are there known bugs and issues about that ?
|
| what's the point of having 1 GB RAM (or more : I was planing to upgrade to 1.5 GB or 2 GB RAM) if the system
sill can't do "more" than if I had only 512 MB RAM (which is already a lot) ???
|
| thanks for your very welcomed help !
|
| best regards,
|
| J Baldec

 

[Guest]

Hello Carey Frisc

Thanks for your post, but having gone to the related link, and having thoroughly read the article, I must say it does not bring anything to my proble

I still have plenty of RAM (at startup), plenty of FREE RAM available (when running Windows with a lot of various APPS and SERVICES opened), plenty of available PAGING FILE SPACE,

and I still (randomly) get somme "not enough memory error" message

and..

I am still waiting for some clue about how to understand windows' memory management (or windows' memory "management unability"...

best regard

J Baldec