Machine change: Win98SE to XP Home: hard drive/file system implications?

A

Almali del Benian

A Computer Angel Donor (cad?) is giving me a new machine.

Here's what it will come with:

Mini Tower case
Intel P4 - 2.0GHZ CPU
256MB PC3200 Ram
3.5" floppy drive
Win XP Home OEM
Maxtor 80 GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive
Radeon 7000 64MB AGP 4 X Video Card
3 years Depot Warranty.

My dealer will transfer the following equipment from my old machine to the
new:

My current Artec CD-writer, 32x12x48x, version 1.0 firmware

My current Western Digital 40 MB drive (7200 rpm); it's formatted as Fat32,
with int 13 extended support (whatever that is), less than a year old.

And to that, I will add, at home:

my keyboard
my modem
my optical wheel mouse
my speakers

My Computer Angel Donor, when able (4-6 months), will add the following as
upgrades:

additional 256 MB ram
a UPS
maybe a new keyboard (optional)

My dealer's supplier puts the machine together, formats Drive C, and
installs XP Home, then ships to my dealer, who will update XP Home to its
latest patches or hotfixes, and make sure all drivers are the latest.

Then my dealer will remove my old Drive D (Western Digital 7200 rpm,
formatted with Fat32, with extended int 13 support from the old machine and
put it in the new machine as the second physical drive.

He will also copy the files from my current Drive C to a subfolder on the
new Drive C.

He will remove my Artec CD-Writer (32x12x48, firmware version 1.0) from the
old machine, and install it in the new one, as my only CD-ROM on the new
machine.

Right now, I'm running Windows 98 SE on an old P3, also given to me. I want
to change to XP Home, for its stability. I do NOT want any dual-boot setup.
Just XP Home.

My current Drive C is 5 years old, 20 GB, about 18.xx formatted (Fat32).
It has about 15 GB used, 4 GB free.

My current Drive D, about 27.7 GB formatted, has 28 GB used, 9 GB free.

I didn't know you could have 37.7 GB formatted with Fat32? How much space on
a single drive can be formatted with Fat32 - as a single logical drive? I
didn't know about "int 13 extended support" - merely just saw it in my
Norton Utilities System Information.

Finally, here comes the essence of my question.

I believe my dealer said that the machine would normally come wth the NTFS
file system.

But, reading here, I am now concerned about that. I've been reading mostly
in the XPgeneral newsgroup, but here, too, where I found a couple of posts
from:

"cquirke (MVP Win9x)" <[email protected]>

suggesting that for a user (like me) who might have power failures more than
very rarely, and might occasionally be subject to malware, would be better
off with a Fat32 file system, because it's easier to recover and repair
files that way, than with NTFS.

(Thank you so much, cquirke!)

And although I am careful, sometimes to the point where I feel paranoid, I
certainly could pick up malware on my system, as I did when Swen_A first
came out. The virus scanners hadn't been updated yet, so it got through my
ISP, and into my system, where it got trashed by my Eudora <smug, but not
too smug, grin>. By that evening, AVG had an update, which, of course, I
downloaded.

I'm also using AdAware and SpyBot, CWShredder, and haven't needed
HijackThis. I keep these updated as best I can (though I have a heck of a
time updating Spybot.)

I'm also using ZoneAlarm, and plan to continue using that, and AdSubtract,
as well as the free AVG (Grisoft). I keep AVG updated, checking several
times daily.

So:

Would it be a real burden to my dealer's supplier, and to my dealer, if I
were to request that the new hard drive be formatted with the Fat32 file
system?

Would there be disadvantages to me if the new 80 GB drive were formatted
that way?

Would "int 13 extended support" set me up for potential problems? I believe
I could happily accommodate the (32 GB?) limit on logical drive size, if
either or both of my physical drives were to be partitioned - except that
I'd have to restructure the files (at the user folder level) on my current
Drive D, and perhaps it should be divided into two 18/19 GB logical drives,
or one 32 GB and one 7 GB?

Would logical drives be required on the 80 GB drive? If so, approximately
how many?

Would my current (old) Drive D, formatted now with Fat32 with int 13
extended support (you understand, I'm just parrotting that), just slip into
the new system ever so easily, if its Drive C is already formatted with the
Fat32 file system?

But if it's too much to ask of my dealer's supplier and my dealer to format
with Fat32, so that I'd get NTFS instead, how could my current Drive D be
added to the system? There appears to be enough space on the 80 GB drive so
files could be copied from my current Drive D to the new Drive C, perhaps in
a subfolder, still leaving room for XP Home (OEM), for the subfolder with my
old drive C files in it, and even, still, for the files from my current
(old) Drive D, all to fit on the new Drive C. Then presumably my dealer
would re-format my current Drive D with NTFS, so the file system would be
NTFS throughout the new system (because I do NOT want dual boot; I'm tossing
Win98).

On the other hand, what if my dealer and his supplier could rather easily
format to Fat32 instead of NTFS? Would my old drive D then just slip ever so
easily into the new system, and be itself just as it is now? I have only one
program on D - this one! (Free Agent). (If I remember right.) All the rest
is data.

And would my new Drive C then require logical drives, in an extended
partition? If so, about what size would those be? I'd probably go for the
largest size that functions easily and well under XP Home.

I'm not sure my questions make sense. I'm trying. If there were any way I
could get the UPS on the first purchase, I would, but I cannot! So the best
I can do is remain paranoid about nasties, and try to anticipate when we
might have power failures, as in bad weather - but we occasionally lose
power even in good weather, when some human plows a vehicle into a pole, for
instance.

I pray I'm making any sense here! Thanks in advance for any suggestions you
can make, and any information you can pass to me!

Almali del Benian
*** I receive plain text only unless you notify me first. ***
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

NTFS Preinstallation and Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/tech/storage/ntfs-preinstall.mspx

Benchmarking on Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/platform/performance/benchmark.mspx

It would be prudent to purchase a backup power supply
unit for your computer since power interruptions can
cause damage to a computer and its file system.
Visit: http://www.apcc.com/index.cfm

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

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| A Computer Angel Donor (cad?) is giving me a new machine.
|
| Here's what it will come with:
|
| Mini Tower case
| Intel P4 - 2.0GHZ CPU
| 256MB PC3200 Ram
| 3.5" floppy drive
| Win XP Home OEM
| Maxtor 80 GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive
| Radeon 7000 64MB AGP 4 X Video Card
| 3 years Depot Warranty.
|
| My dealer will transfer the following equipment from my old machine to the
| new:
|
| My current Artec CD-writer, 32x12x48x, version 1.0 firmware
|
| My current Western Digital 40 MB drive (7200 rpm); it's formatted as Fat32,
| with int 13 extended support (whatever that is), less than a year old.
|
| And to that, I will add, at home:
|
| my keyboard
| my modem
| my optical wheel mouse
| my speakers
|
| My Computer Angel Donor, when able (4-6 months), will add the following as
| upgrades:
|
| additional 256 MB ram
| a UPS
| maybe a new keyboard (optional)
|
| My dealer's supplier puts the machine together, formats Drive C, and
| installs XP Home, then ships to my dealer, who will update XP Home to its
| latest patches or hotfixes, and make sure all drivers are the latest.
|
| Then my dealer will remove my old Drive D (Western Digital 7200 rpm,
| formatted with Fat32, with extended int 13 support from the old machine and
| put it in the new machine as the second physical drive.
|
| He will also copy the files from my current Drive C to a subfolder on the
| new Drive C.
|
| He will remove my Artec CD-Writer (32x12x48, firmware version 1.0) from the
| old machine, and install it in the new one, as my only CD-ROM on the new
| machine.
|
| Right now, I'm running Windows 98 SE on an old P3, also given to me. I want
| to change to XP Home, for its stability. I do NOT want any dual-boot setup.
| Just XP Home.
|
| My current Drive C is 5 years old, 20 GB, about 18.xx formatted (Fat32).
| It has about 15 GB used, 4 GB free.
|
| My current Drive D, about 27.7 GB formatted, has 28 GB used, 9 GB free.
|
| I didn't know you could have 37.7 GB formatted with Fat32? How much space on
| a single drive can be formatted with Fat32 - as a single logical drive? I
| didn't know about "int 13 extended support" - merely just saw it in my
| Norton Utilities System Information.
|
| Finally, here comes the essence of my question.
|
| I believe my dealer said that the machine would normally come wth the NTFS
| file system.
|
| But, reading here, I am now concerned about that. I've been reading mostly
| in the XPgeneral newsgroup, but here, too, where I found a couple of posts
| from:
|
| "cquirke (MVP Win9x)" <[email protected]>
|
| suggesting that for a user (like me) who might have power failures more than
| very rarely, and might occasionally be subject to malware, would be better
| off with a Fat32 file system, because it's easier to recover and repair
| files that way, than with NTFS.
|
| (Thank you so much, cquirke!)
|
| And although I am careful, sometimes to the point where I feel paranoid, I
| certainly could pick up malware on my system, as I did when Swen_A first
| came out. The virus scanners hadn't been updated yet, so it got through my
| ISP, and into my system, where it got trashed by my Eudora <smug, but not
| too smug, grin>. By that evening, AVG had an update, which, of course, I
| downloaded.
|
| I'm also using AdAware and SpyBot, CWShredder, and haven't needed
| HijackThis. I keep these updated as best I can (though I have a heck of a
| time updating Spybot.)
|
| I'm also using ZoneAlarm, and plan to continue using that, and AdSubtract,
| as well as the free AVG (Grisoft). I keep AVG updated, checking several
| times daily.
|
| So:
|
| Would it be a real burden to my dealer's supplier, and to my dealer, if I
| were to request that the new hard drive be formatted with the Fat32 file
| system?
|
| Would there be disadvantages to me if the new 80 GB drive were formatted
| that way?
|
| Would "int 13 extended support" set me up for potential problems? I believe
| I could happily accommodate the (32 GB?) limit on logical drive size, if
| either or both of my physical drives were to be partitioned - except that
| I'd have to restructure the files (at the user folder level) on my current
| Drive D, and perhaps it should be divided into two 18/19 GB logical drives,
| or one 32 GB and one 7 GB?
|
| Would logical drives be required on the 80 GB drive? If so, approximately
| how many?
|
| Would my current (old) Drive D, formatted now with Fat32 with int 13
| extended support (you understand, I'm just parrotting that), just slip into
| the new system ever so easily, if its Drive C is already formatted with the
| Fat32 file system?
|
| But if it's too much to ask of my dealer's supplier and my dealer to format
| with Fat32, so that I'd get NTFS instead, how could my current Drive D be
| added to the system? There appears to be enough space on the 80 GB drive so
| files could be copied from my current Drive D to the new Drive C, perhaps in
| a subfolder, still leaving room for XP Home (OEM), for the subfolder with my
| old drive C files in it, and even, still, for the files from my current
| (old) Drive D, all to fit on the new Drive C. Then presumably my dealer
| would re-format my current Drive D with NTFS, so the file system would be
| NTFS throughout the new system (because I do NOT want dual boot; I'm tossing
| Win98).
|
| On the other hand, what if my dealer and his supplier could rather easily
| format to Fat32 instead of NTFS? Would my old drive D then just slip ever so
| easily into the new system, and be itself just as it is now? I have only one
| program on D - this one! (Free Agent). (If I remember right.) All the rest
| is data.
|
| And would my new Drive C then require logical drives, in an extended
| partition? If so, about what size would those be? I'd probably go for the
| largest size that functions easily and well under XP Home.
|
| I'm not sure my questions make sense. I'm trying. If there were any way I
| could get the UPS on the first purchase, I would, but I cannot! So the best
| I can do is remain paranoid about nasties, and try to anticipate when we
| might have power failures, as in bad weather - but we occasionally lose
| power even in good weather, when some human plows a vehicle into a pole, for
| instance.
|
| I pray I'm making any sense here! Thanks in advance for any suggestions you
| can make, and any information you can pass to me!
|
| Almali del Benian
| *** I receive plain text only unless you notify me first. ***
 
W

Wislu Plethora

-----Original Message-----
A Computer Angel Donor (cad?) is giving me a new machine.

<War and Peace snipped>

WTF is a Computer Angel Donor, and where can I find one?
 
A

Almali del Benian


Oh, thank you, Carey! I'll go exploring as you suggest.
It would be prudent to purchase a backup power supply
unit for your computer since power interruptions can
cause damage to a computer and its file system.
Visit: http://www.apcc.com/index.cfm

I'll visit there, too. I'm very much aware of the prudence of having UPS
backup! So if there's any way I can swing it, I will, but it might have to
wait. Meantime, I'll take all other precautions I can to avoid having the
power go out while I have the machine turned on.
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

<Taking more notes>

I really appreciate the help, and look forward to learning more. (Not to
mention, I look forward to the new-system-mixed-with-old!)

Almali del Benian
*** I receive plain text only unless you notify me first. ***
 
A

Almali del Benian

<War and Peace snipped>

No kidding! That's what happens when I don't know what I'm doing. I could
have written three times as much said:
WTF is a Computer Angel Donor, and where can I find one?

Well, a CAD, she is not.

Maybe you can do what I did, and donate a couple and a half years of work
for her, without charge? <snortle!> (Still, I was NOT expecting this! I gave
freely. Hmm. As so many do here!

Almali del Benian
*** I receive plain text only unless you notify me first. ***
 

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