M/B recommendation for use with 9800 Pro?

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Robert P Drake

And exactly what did they say? Were they talking about just the
Powercolor version or all 9800pro vid cards? And I've seen this info
before, Antech did'nt say all Antec power supplies, they said the
380w model that comes in the Sonata case. You made it sound like all
Antec psu's which is complete BS.

Follow the bouncing ball! I'm the one saying that it applies ONLY to
the 380w in the Sonata case, everyone else around here keeps saying
"well, it works fine with my 420w True Power". Who cares if it works
with your other Antec, I'm talking only about the 380w TP.
 
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Robert P Drake

You're an ass. Learn to read.
Oh, and now you decide to come out with the truth instead of a
misleading statement.

You said, "Just don't get an Antec ps with that, they've told me
they're "incompatible".". That is a damaging statement and you should
be more preecise in what you say. We still don't know if they are
talking about the Powercolor version of the 9800pro or all versions.
They may simply have said that because the they don't consider the
380w version of the Truepower poweful enough for the 9800pro. But, I
know there are many people with Sonata cases (has 380w Truepower) and
a 9800pro and htey have no problems. This subject needs better
clarification.
 
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Slug

Follow the bouncing ball! I'm the one saying that it applies ONLY to
the 380w in the Sonata case,

No you didn't! You made a blanket statement of Antec PSU's. Now I see
in a later post you have said 380w Truepower.
 
J

J. Clarke

Robert said:
Follow the bouncing ball! I'm the one saying that it applies ONLY to
the 380w in the Sonata case, everyone else around here keeps saying
"well, it works fine with my 420w True Power". Who cares if it works
with your other Antec, I'm talking only about the 380w TP.

Did you personally have trouble with a boxed 380w TP? Did Antec say
anything to you specifically about the boxed 380w TP? Or were they just
talking about the Sonata?
 
J

J. Clarke

Slug said:
The only mod I know of is that it has one fan instead of two, and they
may have beefed up the internal heatsink but not sure about that. I
highly doubt the amp ratings are changed at all, which is what would
determine if it is enough PSU for the 9800pro.

You see therein lies the problem. You are making assumptions. Antec
_knows_ what they did to that power supply.
 
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Robert P Drake

Did you personally have trouble with a boxed 380w TP? Did Antec say
anything to you specifically about the boxed 380w TP? Or were they just
talking about the Sonata?

I asked them if the PS in the Sonata could handle the demands of the
9800Pro, they replied "We could not guarantee the power supply to work
with an ATI 9800 Pro for we have some compatibility issues with it."

They also said it is perfectly within specs that their power supply
deviate +/- 10% on the +12v rails, so I don't exactly trust everything
they tell me (my deviate +/- 7%, even though their website says it
will remain at +/- 3%).
 
J

J. Clarke

Robert said:
I asked them if the PS in the Sonata could handle the demands of the
9800Pro, they replied "We could not guarantee the power supply to work
with an ATI 9800 Pro for we have some compatibility issues with it."

They also said it is perfectly within specs that their power supply
deviate +/- 10% on the +12v rails, so I don't exactly trust everything
they tell me (my deviate +/- 7%, even though their website says it
will remain at +/- 3%).

Is that measured with a meter or the motherboard sensors?
 
S

Skid

Robert P Drake said:
Follow the bouncing ball! I'm the one saying that it applies ONLY to
the 380w in the Sonata case, everyone else around here keeps saying
"well, it works fine with my 420w True Power". Who cares if it works
with your other Antec, I'm talking only about the 380w TP.

I have and Antec Sonata with a 380 TP and a 9700 Pro. Never had any kind of
problem, despite the fact that the case is jammed with drives and fans.

Fact is, I've never heard any suggestion of any problem with this psu or
compatibility issues with any particular component -- outside this thread,
of course.

I'm not questioning anyone's credibility, but I would appreciate a link to
any forum or website where any sort of confirmation of this alleged problem
can be found. Or even something specific on the type of problem or symptoms
under discussion.

Otherwise, I'm inclined to chalk the whole thing up to miscommunication.
 
K

Kev

97Pro's have been put in Shuttle cases and they have little more than
200w psu's.

But in terms of m/b's, the intel's just seem to be less of a problem.
 
S

Slug

They also said it is perfectly within specs that their power supply
deviate +/- 10% on the +12v rails,

10%? I always understood that the spec can't diviate more than +/-5%.
 
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Slug

You see therein lies the problem. You are making assumptions. Antec
_knows_ what they did to that power supply.

OK, then what did they change that makes it incompatible with a
9800pro? Funny thing is we have a poster in this thread that says he
has this PSU with a 9700pro and it runs fine. I think my assumption is
correct, even though it's not really an assumption at all because I
have read reviews of the Sonata case and they told the reader the
specs of the PSU.
 
R

Robert P Drake

I have and Antec Sonata with a 380 TP and a 9700 Pro. Never had any kind of
problem, despite the fact that the case is jammed with drives and fans.

Fact is, I've never heard any suggestion of any problem with this psu or
compatibility issues with any particular component -- outside this thread,
of course.

I'm not questioning anyone's credibility, but I would appreciate a link to
any forum or website where any sort of confirmation of this alleged problem
can be found. Or even something specific on the type of problem or symptoms
under discussion.

Otherwise, I'm inclined to chalk the whole thing up to miscommunication.
I provided a direct quote from Antec in this tread. Don't know why
they'd say it if it wasn't true. I suspect the problem only occurs
with the right combination of PS, the 9800pro and motherboard. I
really didn't provide any additional information that what I quoted.
 
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Slug

I provided a direct quote from Antec in this tread. Don't know why
they'd say it if it wasn't true. I suspect the problem only occurs
with the right combination of PS, the 9800pro and motherboard. I
really didn't provide any additional information that what I quoted.

OK, sorry for giving you a hard time about it. I will email Antec
myself and get clarification, even though this issue doesn't affect
me.
 
J

J. Clarke

Slug said:
OK, then what did they change that makes it incompatible with a
9800pro?

I have no idea. I don't work for Antec and I have better things to do than
run out and get a Sonata and boxed 380 and take them apart and see what the
differences are.
Funny thing is we have a poster in this thread that says he
has this PSU with a 9700pro and it runs fine. I think my assumption is
correct, even though it's not really an assumption at all because I
have read reviews of the Sonata case and they told the reader the
specs of the PSU.

Personally I don't care whether the Sonata does or does not have a problem
with the 9800. My point is that Antec saying that the Sonata has a problem
does not, regardles of its validity, automatically imply that the boxed 380
has the same problem.
 
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Slug

Personally I don't care whether the Sonata does or does not have a problem
with the 9800. My point is that Antec saying that the Sonata has a problem
does not, regardles of its validity, automatically imply that the boxed 380
has the same problem.

Did I say that? Nope.
 

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