Losing Restore Points for System Restore after Reboot

G

Guest

On my 2.5 years old Windows XP Pro (with SP2 and all patches) system, all
System Restore Points that have been created dissappear after I reboot.

I have just noticed this recently, and can not associate it with any changes
to my system. I have had occassion to use System Restore several times in
the past and know (pretty sure) that rebooting previously did not remove
Restore Points.

I've used the same the same virus protection (Symantec) since day one, and
now must remember to create a Restore Point after any reboot, which isn't too
much trouble, but I'll like to get the old behavior back (just in case I
forget).

Bob
ThinkPad G41 2886-5TU - P4M 532 - 2Gb RAM - 80Gb HDD
 
R

Ronaldo

Just disable the System Restore feature and reenable it, that will fix it..
and if you have the feature configured to include another partition in
addition to the system partition, change it to cover the system partition
only to prevent future repetitions of the problem.
Also scan your system for possible spyware or virus infection which may have
disabled the SR function.

Antispyware and antitrojan programs:
Install Adaware SE Personal, Spybot Search & Destroy, CWShredder, and The
Cleaner.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

http://www.moosoft.com
 
R

Ronaldo

To change the System Restore settings: Start\Control Panel\System\System
Restore\clear the "Disable System Restore for all drives" to disable the
program, restart the computer and check the box to reenable the function.
To disable SR on non-system partitions, highlight each additional partition
and click on settings\remove the check mark. Listed partitions should
appear as Supervised on the system partition, and disabled on non-system
partitions. This is not usually done but in my experience it prevents the
system restore feature from being disabled by common system errors when more
than one partition are supervised, for example; when SR is disabled due to
not enough space in one the drive, which is usually not the case, at least
in my own experience.

How to Enable and Disable System Restore
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/264887

How to turn off and turn on System Restore in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405

Windows XP Technical Articles
Microsoft Windows XP System Restore
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms997627.aspx

Windows XP System Restore Guide
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial56.html
 
G

Guest

Thank you for the URL's in your second post, which made it easy for me to try
your suggestions - which I did with high hopes and wild anticipation.

I stopped System Restore, rebooted and restarted System Restore. Its
restart created a new Restore Point and I created another. I edited its
monitoring to just do so on my system drive (I'd tried it before monitoring
both my system drive and my USB connected drive, and my system drive alone,
with no difference in its behavior), but I wanted to follow your advice as
closely as I could.

Bad news . . . after a reboot all System Restore Points had gone bye-bye.

Bob (who is still looking for help)
 
R

Ronaldo

Check your System Restore registry key.. to see if something there is
incorrect.
Go to Start\Run\type "regedit" (no quotes) and Enter, next browse to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore, and compare settings to the following
image:
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8964/systemrestoresettingsqp9.jpg

If you have not scanned your system with spyware programs as recommended,
you need to do it cause some bugs disable or prevent SR from saving restore
points to protect themselves.

---------------------------------------
 
G

Guest

In "regedit" I navigated to the "SystemRestore" folder, which contained two
folders: "Cfg" and "SnapshotCallbacks", the latter containing only:

[ab](Default) REG_SZ

The "Cfg" folder contained:

[ab](Default) REG_SZ (value not set)
[::]DiskPercent REG_DWORD 0x0000000c (12)
[ab]MachineGuid REG_SZ
{5D527826-05BD-4A83-8416-28ACDDA-14001}

The image file you pointed me to didn't make much sense to me, but it didn't
contain the last of the three above, and did contain a lot more entries.

I wouldn't be comfortable editing the Registry anyway.

Bob
 
R

Ronaldo

The image is from the main "System Restore" Key.. Cfg and SnapshotCallBacks
are "System Restore" subkeys. If your registry doesn't have all the entries
shown in the image, which are entries in the SystemRestore Key, that is
what's causing the problem... you have to restore the entries or it will
never get fixed. You can download a .reg file that edits the registry with
the correct entries and data. Go to the following link and browse down to
line # 278, to download "Restore/Enable System Restore.reg" and save the
file to your HD, once it finishes downloading, right click on the file and
select "Merge". and restart the computer.

This site is run by a widely recognized MVP, so you should not expect any
adverse effect using one of her .reg edits.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Also check that the System Restore Service is enabled.
Right click on My Computer\Manage\Services and Applications\Services

-------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Stockler said:
In "regedit" I navigated to the "SystemRestore" folder, which contained two
folders: "Cfg" and "SnapshotCallbacks", the latter containing only:

[ab](Default) REG_SZ

The "Cfg" folder contained:

[ab](Default) REG_SZ (value not set)
[::]DiskPercent REG_DWORD 0x0000000c (12)
[ab]MachineGuid REG_SZ
{5D527826-05BD-4A83-8416-28ACDDA-14001}

The image file you pointed me to didn't make much sense to me, but it didn't
contain the last of the three above, and did contain a lot more entries.

I wouldn't be comfortable editing the Registry anyway.

Bob

Ronaldo said:
Check your System Restore registry key.. to see if something there is
incorrect.
Go to Start\Run\type "regedit" (no quotes) and Enter, next browse to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore, and compare settings to the following
image:
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8964/systemrestoresettingsqp9.jpg

If you have not scanned your system with spyware programs as recommended,
you need to do it cause some bugs disable or prevent SR from saving restore
points to protect themselves.

---------------------------------------
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G

Guest

That worked . . . to a certain extent. I can now reboot and find that the
System Restore Points are retained (that exercise caused one to be created).

But, when I try to create a Restore Point, I can't. It tells me it can't
create one, to reboot and try again. I've done that twice with similar
results.

But the Restore Point the "fix" exercise originally created has persisted.

Thanks.

Bob

Ronaldo said:
The image is from the main "System Restore" Key.. Cfg and SnapshotCallBacks
are "System Restore" subkeys. If your registry doesn't have all the entries
shown in the image, which are entries in the SystemRestore Key, that is
what's causing the problem... you have to restore the entries or it will
never get fixed. You can download a .reg file that edits the registry with
the correct entries and data. Go to the following link and browse down to
line # 278, to download "Restore/Enable System Restore.reg" and save the
file to your HD, once it finishes downloading, right click on the file and
select "Merge". and restart the computer.

This site is run by a widely recognized MVP, so you should not expect any
adverse effect using one of her .reg edits.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Also check that the System Restore Service is enabled.
Right click on My Computer\Manage\Services and Applications\Services

-------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Stockler said:
In "regedit" I navigated to the "SystemRestore" folder, which contained two
folders: "Cfg" and "SnapshotCallbacks", the latter containing only:

[ab](Default) REG_SZ

The "Cfg" folder contained:

[ab](Default) REG_SZ (value not set)
[::]DiskPercent REG_DWORD 0x0000000c (12)
[ab]MachineGuid REG_SZ
{5D527826-05BD-4A83-8416-28ACDDA-14001}

The image file you pointed me to didn't make much sense to me, but it didn't
contain the last of the three above, and did contain a lot more entries.

I wouldn't be comfortable editing the Registry anyway.

Bob

Ronaldo said:
Check your System Restore registry key.. to see if something there is
incorrect.
Go to Start\Run\type "regedit" (no quotes) and Enter, next browse to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore, and compare settings to the following
image:
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8964/systemrestoresettingsqp9.jpg

If you have not scanned your system with spyware programs as recommended,
you need to do it cause some bugs disable or prevent SR from saving restore
points to protect themselves.

---------------------------------------
"Bob Stockler" <[email protected]> escribió en el
mensaje Thank you for the URL's in your second post, which made it easy for me to
try
your suggestions - which I did with high hopes and wild anticipation.

I stopped System Restore, rebooted and restarted System Restore. Its
restart created a new Restore Point and I created another. I edited its
monitoring to just do so on my system drive (I'd tried it before
monitoring
both my system drive and my USB connected drive, and my system drive
alone,
with no difference in its behavior), but I wanted to follow your advice as
closely as I could.

Bad news . . . after a reboot all System Restore Points had gone bye-bye.

Bob (who is still looking for help)



:

To change the System Restore settings: Start\Control
Panel\System\System
Restore\clear the "Disable System Restore for all drives" to disable the
program, restart the computer and check the box to reenable the
function.
To disable SR on non-system partitions, highlight each additional
partition
and click on settings\remove the check mark. Listed partitions should
appear as Supervised on the system partition, and disabled on non-system
partitions. This is not usually done but in my experience it prevents
the
system restore feature from being disabled by common system errors when
more
than one partition are supervised, for example; when SR is disabled due
to
not enough space in one the drive, which is usually not the case, at
least
in my own experience.

How to Enable and Disable System Restore
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/264887

How to turn off and turn on System Restore in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405

Windows XP Technical Articles
Microsoft Windows XP System Restore
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms997627.aspx

Windows XP System Restore Guide
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial56.html

---------------------------------
"Bob Stockler" <[email protected]> escribió en el
mensaje On my 2.5 years old Windows XP Pro (with SP2 and all patches) system,
all
System Restore Points that have been created dissappear after I
reboot.

I have just noticed this recently, and can not associate it with any
changes
to my system. I have had occassion to use System Restore several
times in
the past and know (pretty sure) that rebooting previously did not
remove
Restore Points.

I've used the same the same virus protection (Symantec) since day
}} one,
and
now must remember to create a Restore Point after any reboot, which
isn't
too
much trouble, but I'll like to get the old behavior back (just in case I
forget).

Bob
ThinkPad G41 2886-5TU - P4M 532 - 2Gb RAM - 80Gb HDD
 
R

Ronaldo

You may have to wait for a second restore point to be created automatically
before you can create a manual restore point. A manual restore point
depends on another restore point and the First run restore point may not
allow it. Wait untill after a second restore point is created to try again,
and report back any result.

-------------------------------------------
Bob Stockler said:
That worked . . . to a certain extent. I can now reboot and find that the
System Restore Points are retained (that exercise caused one to be created).

But, when I try to create a Restore Point, I can't. It tells me it can't
create one, to reboot and try again. I've done that twice with similar
results.

But the Restore Point the "fix" exercise originally created has persisted.

Thanks.

Bob

Ronaldo said:
The image is from the main "System Restore" Key.. Cfg and SnapshotCallBacks
are "System Restore" subkeys. If your registry doesn't have all the entries
shown in the image, which are entries in the SystemRestore Key, that is
what's causing the problem... you have to restore the entries or it will
never get fixed. You can download a .reg file that edits the registry with
the correct entries and data. Go to the following link and browse down to
line # 278, to download "Restore/Enable System Restore.reg" and save the
file to your HD, once it finishes downloading, right click on the file and
select "Merge". and restart the computer.

This site is run by a widely recognized MVP, so you should not expect any
adverse effect using one of her .reg edits.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Also check that the System Restore Service is enabled.
Right click on My Computer\Manage\Services and Applications\Services

-------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Stockler said:
In "regedit" I navigated to the "SystemRestore" folder, which
contained
two
folders: "Cfg" and "SnapshotCallbacks", the latter containing only:

[ab](Default) REG_SZ

The "Cfg" folder contained:

[ab](Default) REG_SZ (value not set)
[::]DiskPercent REG_DWORD 0x0000000c (12)
[ab]MachineGuid REG_SZ
{5D527826-05BD-4A83-8416-28ACDDA-14001}

The image file you pointed me to didn't make much sense to me, but it didn't
contain the last of the three above, and did contain a lot more entries.

I wouldn't be comfortable editing the Registry anyway.

Bob

:

Check your System Restore registry key.. to see if something there is
incorrect.
Go to Start\Run\type "regedit" (no quotes) and Enter, next browse to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore, and compare settings to the following
image:
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8964/systemrestoresettingsqp9.jpg

If you have not scanned your system with spyware programs as recommended,
you need to do it cause some bugs disable or prevent SR from saving restore
points to protect themselves.
for me
to
try
your suggestions - which I did with high hopes and wild anticipation.

I stopped System Restore, rebooted and restarted System Restore. Its
restart created a new Restore Point and I created another. I
edited
its
monitoring to just do so on my system drive (I'd tried it before
monitoring
both my system drive and my USB connected drive, and my system drive
alone,
with no difference in its behavior), but I wanted to follow your advice as
closely as I could.

Bad news . . . after a reboot all System Restore Points had gone bye-bye.

Bob (who is still looking for help)



:

To change the System Restore settings: Start\Control
Panel\System\System
Restore\clear the "Disable System Restore for all drives" to
disable
the
program, restart the computer and check the box to reenable the
function.
To disable SR on non-system partitions, highlight each additional
partition
and click on settings\remove the check mark. Listed partitions should
appear as Supervised on the system partition, and disabled on non-system
partitions. This is not usually done but in my experience it prevents
the
system restore feature from being disabled by common system
errors
when
more
than one partition are supervised, for example; when SR is
disabled
due
to
not enough space in one the drive, which is usually not the case, at
least
in my own experience.

How to Enable and Disable System Restore
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/264887

How to turn off and turn on System Restore in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405

Windows XP Technical Articles
Microsoft Windows XP System Restore
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms997627.aspx

Windows XP System Restore Guide
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial56.html
en
el
mensaje On my 2.5 years old Windows XP Pro (with SP2 and all patches) system,
all
System Restore Points that have been created dissappear after I
reboot.

I have just noticed this recently, and can not associate it
with
any
changes
to my system. I have had occassion to use System Restore several
times in
the past and know (pretty sure) that rebooting previously did not
remove
Restore Points.

I've used the same the same virus protection (Symantec) since day
}} one,
and
now must remember to create a Restore Point after any reboot, which
isn't
too
much trouble, but I'll like to get the old behavior back (just
in
case I
forget).

Bob
ThinkPad G41 2886-5TU - P4M 532 - 2Gb RAM - 80Gb HDD
 
G

Guest

I gave up. I'm on an IBM Thinkpad with ThinkVantage Rescue and Restore. I
used it to restore my system to a point where System Restore works as it did
before.

I checked, and all of my ThinkVantage programs are up to date, but Windows
Update shows one KB* update I lack. I'm wondering if my previous install of
it was at the root of my problem, so I didn't install it. I'll enjoy life as
it was for a while before I install that Windows patch - then, if installing
it causes my System Restore problems to recur, I'll know.

Thanks for all the help you've given me. I really appreciate your interest.

Bob

Ronaldo said:
You may have to wait for a second restore point to be created automatically
before you can create a manual restore point. A manual restore point
depends on another restore point and the First run restore point may not
allow it. Wait untill after a second restore point is created to try again,
and report back any result.

-------------------------------------------
Bob Stockler said:
That worked . . . to a certain extent. I can now reboot and find that the
System Restore Points are retained (that exercise caused one to be created).

But, when I try to create a Restore Point, I can't. It tells me it can't
create one, to reboot and try again. I've done that twice with similar
results.

But the Restore Point the "fix" exercise originally created has persisted.

Thanks.

Bob

Ronaldo said:
The image is from the main "System Restore" Key.. Cfg and SnapshotCallBacks
are "System Restore" subkeys. If your registry doesn't have all the entries
shown in the image, which are entries in the SystemRestore Key, that is
what's causing the problem... you have to restore the entries or it will
never get fixed. You can download a .reg file that edits the registry with
the correct entries and data. Go to the following link and browse down to
line # 278, to download "Restore/Enable System Restore.reg" and save the
file to your HD, once it finishes downloading, right click on the file and
select "Merge". and restart the computer.

This site is run by a widely recognized MVP, so you should not expect any
adverse effect using one of her .reg edits.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Also check that the System Restore Service is enabled.
Right click on My Computer\Manage\Services and Applications\Services

-------------------------------------------------------------
"Bob Stockler" <[email protected]> escribió en el
mensaje In "regedit" I navigated to the "SystemRestore" folder, which contained
two
folders: "Cfg" and "SnapshotCallbacks", the latter containing only:

[ab](Default) REG_SZ

The "Cfg" folder contained:

[ab](Default) REG_SZ (value not set)
[::]DiskPercent REG_DWORD 0x0000000c (12)
[ab]MachineGuid REG_SZ
{5D527826-05BD-4A83-8416-28ACDDA-14001}

The image file you pointed me to didn't make much sense to me, but it
didn't
contain the last of the three above, and did contain a lot more entries.

I wouldn't be comfortable editing the Registry anyway.

Bob

:

Check your System Restore registry key.. to see if something there is
incorrect.
Go to Start\Run\type "regedit" (no quotes) and Enter, next browse to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\SystemRestore, and compare settings to the following
image:
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8964/systemrestoresettingsqp9.jpg

If you have not scanned your system with spyware programs as
recommended,
you need to do it cause some bugs disable or prevent SR from saving
restore
points to protect themselves.

---------------------------------------
"Bob Stockler" <[email protected]> escribió en el
mensaje Thank you for the URL's in your second post, which made it easy for me
to
try
your suggestions - which I did with high hopes and wild anticipation.

I stopped System Restore, rebooted and restarted System Restore. Its
restart created a new Restore Point and I created another. I edited
its
monitoring to just do so on my system drive (I'd tried it before
monitoring
both my system drive and my USB connected drive, and my system drive
alone,
with no difference in its behavior), but I wanted to follow your
advice as
closely as I could.

Bad news . . . after a reboot all System Restore Points had gone
bye-bye.

Bob (who is still looking for help)



:

To change the System Restore settings: Start\Control
Panel\System\System
Restore\clear the "Disable System Restore for all drives" to disable
the
program, restart the computer and check the box to reenable the
function.
To disable SR on non-system partitions, highlight each additional
partition
and click on settings\remove the check mark. Listed partitions
should
appear as Supervised on the system partition, and disabled on
non-system
partitions. This is not usually done but in my experience it
prevents
the
system restore feature from being disabled by common system errors
when
more
than one partition are supervised, for example; when SR is disabled
due
to
not enough space in one the drive, which is usually not the case, at
least
in my own experience.

How to Enable and Disable System Restore
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/264887

How to turn off and turn on System Restore in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405

Windows XP Technical Articles
Microsoft Windows XP System Restore
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms997627.aspx

Windows XP System Restore Guide
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial56.html

---------------------------------
"Bob Stockler" <[email protected]> escribió en
el
mensaje On my 2.5 years old Windows XP Pro (with SP2 and all patches)
system,
all
System Restore Points that have been created dissappear after I
reboot.

I have just noticed this recently, and can not associate it with
any
changes
to my system. I have had occassion to use System Restore several
times in
the past and know (pretty sure) that rebooting previously did not
remove
Restore Points.

I've used the same the same virus protection (Symantec) since day
}} one,
and
now must remember to create a Restore Point after any reboot,
which
isn't
too
much trouble, but I'll like to get the old behavior back (just in
case I
forget).

Bob
ThinkPad G41 2886-5TU - P4M 532 - 2Gb RAM - 80Gb HDD
 
G

Guest

Thanks, Bert. If you read my earlier reply to Ronaldo, you'll see how I
resolved this.

I visited all of the URL's in your post, and they were very interesting.
Thanks for them. You may want to re-investigate the comments about IBM's
(now Lenovo's) Rescue and Recovery in the URL in the body of your message.
Using R&R was how I solved my problem (perhaps because I have a later version
of it than was referrer to in that article).

Bob
 

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