Looking for MMC for All In Wonder 128 AGP w/Win2K

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Bruce Morgen

Picked up the card used and
had no trouble finding
drivers, but still looking
for some way to simply watch
TV -- DSCALER doesn't seem
to work even though all the
WDM drives are installed and
apparently functional.

Thanks in advance for any
and all help!
 
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T Shadow

Bruce Morgen said:
Picked up the card used and
had no trouble finding
drivers, but still looking
for some way to simply watch
TV -- DSCALER doesn't seem
to work even though all the
WDM drives are installed and
apparently functional.

Thanks in advance for any
and all help!

I have a dual boot W98/W2K computer. ~6months ago lost capture device for
AIW128PRO in both O/S. Thought it was a hardware problem. Recently
reformatted the HDD. After reinstalling both O/S the capture device shows in
W98 but not in W2K. Have a newer computer that I do video on so haven't
bothered to try to figure out what's up. if your seeing the capture driver
it should be ok.

An ATI disc with MMC7.2 or MMC 7.7, depending on which AIW128 you have,
would be ideal. It would also have the DVD decoder that never could be
downloaded. Not impossible you could find the older versions of MMC on the
web but a short Google search didn't find any.

Free programs GB-PVR and Media Portal would be good to look at for
supporting your card.
 
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Bruce Morgen

T Shadow said:
I have a dual boot W98/W2K computer. ~6months ago lost capture device for
AIW128PRO in both O/S. Thought it was a hardware problem. Recently
reformatted the HDD. After reinstalling both O/S the capture device shows in
W98 but not in W2K. Have a newer computer that I do video on so haven't
bothered to try to figure out what's up. if your seeing the capture driver
it should be ok.

An ATI disc with MMC7.2 or MMC 7.7, depending on which AIW128 you have,
would be ideal. It would also have the DVD decoder that never could be
downloaded. Not impossible you could find the older versions of MMC on the
web but a short Google search didn't find any.

Free programs GB-PVR and Media Portal would be good to look at for
supporting your card.

Thanks for the advice -- no
joy so far, but I will keep
on trying....
 
B

Bruce Morgen

Bruce Morgen said:
Thanks for the advice -- no
joy so far, but I will keep
on trying....

Finally found v7.2 -- and,
remarkably, it works. Your
help was vital -- thank you
very much! No DVD support
in the download I found,
but I'm sure I'll find a
way to get that done too.

Much appreciated, sir!
 
T

T Shadow

Bruce Morgen said:
Finally found v7.2 -- and,
remarkably, it works. Your
help was vital -- thank you
very much! No DVD support
in the download I found,
but I'm sure I'll find a
way to get that done too.

Much appreciated, sir!

Great!
The ATI program that installs the decoder checks to see if you have the disc
for proof of ownership. Not really a problem Most other DVD player programs
are better.

7.2 is OK and way better than no program but 7.7 has actual TVoD. AFAIK it
doesn't work with the standard AIW128 but does with the PRO. Worth at least
some searching IMHO.

This comes up 2-3 times a year. If you got it online sharing the link may
help someone else.
 
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Bruce Morgen

T Shadow said:
Great!
The ATI program that installs the decoder checks to see if you have the disc
for proof of ownership. Not really a problem Most other DVD player programs
are better.

7.2 is OK and way better than no program but 7.7 has actual TVoD. AFAIK it
doesn't work with the standard AIW128 but does with the PRO. Worth at least
some searching IMHO.

This comes up 2-3 times a year. If you got it online sharing the link may
help someone else.

I'm a bit paranoid that ATI
might go after the Russian
site hosting the file --
but, here's that link:

<http://driverscollection.com/?H=Multimedia Center&By=ATI>

Thanks again!
 
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Bruce Morgen

T Shadow said:
If only ATI gave a crap :).

I dunno, they seem so extreme
not hosting host their own old
software (as if it's of any
use without old hardware?) I
figured they might be extreme
about protecting their
copyrights too. Maybe I'm
a tad paranoid.....
 
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Bruce Morgen

Bruce Morgen said:
I dunno, they seem so extreme
not hosting host their own old
software (as if it's of any
use without old hardware?) I
figured they might be extreme
about protecting their
copyrights too. Maybe I'm
a tad paranoid.....

Finally turned up (entirely
by accident -- I was looking
for information on the
dreaded "MVD codec" problem)
a downloadable MMC 7.7 here:

<http://www.biline.ca/dl_files/MMC-7-7-0-1-noDVD.exe>
 
T

T Shadow

Bruce Morgen said:
Finally turned up (entirely
by accident -- I was looking
for information on the
dreaded "MVD codec" problem)
a downloadable MMC 7.7 here:

<http://www.biline.ca/dl_files/MMC-7-7-0-1-noDVD.exe>

Interesting site. I only have a couple prerecorded VHS tapes so never
bothered to get into it but I do keep files when I find them. Just in case.
Probably the best article I've seen on Macrovision with the AIW. Still seems
to be a PIA.

He never mentions the capture chip. IIRC the AIW9000 had the Theater100 not
the newer theater200.

In case any one else is interested.
http://www.biline.ca/ati_macrovision.htm
 
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Bruce Morgen

T Shadow said:
Interesting site. I only have a couple prerecorded VHS tapes so never
bothered to get into it but I do keep files when I find them. Just in case.
Probably the best article I've seen on Macrovision with the AIW. Still seems
to be a PIA.

He never mentions the capture chip. IIRC the AIW9000 had the Theater100 not
the newer theater200.

In case any one else is interested.
http://www.biline.ca/ati_macrovision.htm

It doesn't look like MMC 7.7
will fly with this antique --
neither the 128 nor the 128
Pro are listed as compatible.
7.2 will have to do, and does
quite nicely considering my
low expectations. :)
 
T

T Shadow

Bruce Morgen said:
It doesn't look like MMC 7.7
will fly with this antique --
neither the 128 nor the 128
Pro are listed as compatible.
7.2 will have to do, and does
quite nicely considering my
low expectations. :)

Your right. It's not supported. Basically means they wouldn't answer
questions about their use together. But I've used it for years with the Pro
after reading posts others were using it. Only thing I found that didn't
work was Gamma. No big deal.

AFAIK, and it's kind of odd, the Pro is closer to the original Radeon than
the standard 128. So like I said the standard may/probably not/won't work
Much to gain little to lose though. The full blown TVoD(PVR) is one of the
best features of MMC. I've been using it with a P3-450 at reduced quality.
 
B

Bruce Morgen

T Shadow said:
Your right. It's not supported. Basically means they wouldn't answer
questions about their use together. But I've used it for years with the Pro
after reading posts others were using it. Only thing I found that didn't
work was Gamma. No big deal.

AFAIK, and it's kind of odd, the Pro is closer to the original Radeon than
the standard 128. So like I said the standard may/probably not/won't work
Much to gain little to lose though. The full blown TVoD(PVR) is one of the
best features of MMC. I've been using it with a P3-450 at reduced quality.

Well, right you are -- again!
Despite the dire non-support
warnings, v7.7 works fine.
Haven't tried recording, but
given that this box has two
800MHz P3s I should have no
video quality issues at all.

Thanks for all the help!
 

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