"Logging Off" message when I log on XP SP2 - all updates

B

- Bobb -

I had 2 disk drives in my Pc
Drive 1 had X64 ( C), Beta Vistas (G: and H:) and a vanilla XP (E:) that I
used for beta testing commercial apps ( Norton, Acronis etc)
Drive2 had 2 copies of XP and a Library (D:)

When I booted I'd get 3 prompts
XP, Vista or X64 .... If I chose XP, then I'd choose which copy of XP : C:
D: E: ?
..... cutting to the chase soon ...

I removed drive 1 and when I boot Drive 2 I get
XP on C:
XP on E: prompt ( as I used to long ago before X64/Vista installs.)
( My Library drive is D:)
That was good.
Then I figured, I haven't actually booted the second copy of XP on the
drive in a long time ( 2006), so I think I'll restore the vanilla version
backup to that partition ( since it's clean and has all updates as of
January 2008). ( Both the image and this partition have the letter E:
assigned to it(them).

OK, cut to chase:
I restored the ghost image of the other drive's XP partition to E: and it
restarted/booted XP on C: (default)- OK - logged in - OK. I restarted
and booted E: - OK - Logged in - and get "Logging Off" and back to the
login screen. I tried my account and Admin account - same thing.

OK - What am I overlooking ? Why the "Logging Off" ???
I haven't yet tried safe mode etc - will do so another day.
( I'll reinstall orig drive and note where default pagefile, etc was when
I boot XP on that other drive)
For now, I'm back on the original XP partition on C and it's fine.

But I'm wondering .. might it be another XP license ? It's such an old
install I've forgotten. Originally I bought XP upgrade ( from Win2000) and
after 1 yr or so MSFT had a windowsupdate ( remember when licensing was
really a mess ?? and they had that " run an app to make sure that you have
a valid license." ) and got a license problem issue. They then gave me a
new s/n and MAYBE this image is from before s/n change ???

Before I jump in that rathole I'm looking for other , more common ideas .
I tried google and support.microsoft.com and too many hits for "logging
off" - noen seem like my issue.
Thanks
Bobb
 
B

- Bobb -

- Bobb - said:
I had 2 disk drives in my Pc
Drive 1 had X64 ( C), Beta Vistas (G: and H:) and a vanilla XP (E:) that
I used for beta testing commercial apps ( Norton, Acronis etc)
Drive2 had 2 copies of XP and a Library (D:)

When I booted I'd get 3 prompts
XP, Vista or X64 .... If I chose XP, then I'd choose which copy of XP :
C: D: E: ?
.... cutting to the chase soon ...

I removed drive 1 and when I boot Drive 2 I get
XP on C:
XP on E: prompt ( as I used to long ago before X64/Vista installs.)
( My Library drive is D:)
That was good.
Then I figured, I haven't actually booted the second copy of XP on the
drive in a long time ( 2006), so I think I'll restore the vanilla
version backup to that partition ( since it's clean and has all updates
as of January 2008). ( Both the image and this partition have the letter
E: assigned to it(them).

OK, cut to chase:
I restored the ghost image of the other drive's XP partition to E: and
it restarted/booted XP on C: (default)- OK - logged in - OK. I
restarted and booted E: - OK - Logged in - and get "Logging Off" and
back to the login screen. I tried my account and Admin account - same
thing.

OK - What am I overlooking ? Why the "Logging Off" ???
I haven't yet tried safe mode etc - will do so another day.
( I'll reinstall orig drive and note where default pagefile, etc was
when I boot XP on that other drive)
For now, I'm back on the original XP partition on C and it's fine.

But I'm wondering .. might it be another XP license ? It's such an old
install I've forgotten. Originally I bought XP upgrade ( from Win2000)
and after 1 yr or so MSFT had a windowsupdate ( remember when licensing
was really a mess ?? and they had that " run an app to make sure that
you have a valid license." ) and got a license problem issue. They then
gave me a new s/n and MAYBE this image is from before s/n change ???

Before I jump in that rathole I'm looking for other , more common ideas
.
I tried google and support.microsoft.com and too many hits for "logging
off" - noen seem like my issue.
Thanks
Bobb
Long ago whether I booted the second partition oneither drive , once XP
was booted " the in use partititon" showed as E:. Now the "new one" shows
as L:


I put orig drive back in and with both in there both/logged in Ok.
Pagefile WAS on " the old drive " still, so I changed to be on the same
partition as XP and rebooted ( leaving letters as- is for now).
Was OK - nothing on "old drive". Shutdown, removed old drive.
Restarted - safe mode - OK
Restarted in normal mode: "Logging Off " again.

So I guess I'll have to change drive letters so that new install shows as
E: again ( currently L:)
I didn't want to mess with that until "everything was on the system disk".
Now that it is, when I get time later I'll boot XP on new partititon and
change letters for new install to be E: and old drive to be L: ( As it was
long ago)
 
B

- Bobb -

I'll change the title of this to real reason for problem.

Since this image has seen this drive ( s/n etc??) as drive L:, how to make
XP "forget" ?

My "normal boot drive is drive 1"
I boot to
Vista / XP menu
-------
if XP then I choose
Drive 0 or Drive 1
menu
---
2 drives -
If I boot Beta XP on drive 0, XP's view is:
Drive0 partitions: X64( C) , XP - for beta testing(E), Vista32
(V),Vista64(X), Temp (T) area
and when I was using E for testing the second drive looked like this to XP
Drive1 partitions: XP (K): XP_backup (L), Archive (D)

If I boot Drive1, part0,
It's view shows Drive1 as
C = XP
E= XP_backup
D=Archive

That's all normal and how I've wanted it, NOW I want to remove Drive0
(testing over) and use that image on drive1 to replace the XP_Backup
partition. ( It's a vanilla/uptodate version of XP and I thought I'd use
it to "start fresh" with XP rather than my current copy which is .. how
old now ?)

I backed up (via ghost) partition #2 on drive 0 to a file.
WHEN I backup, that partition was E and my current target was L:
Now - my objective is to remove the X64 drive ( all done beta testing)
I restore Drive0 partition 2 image to Drive 1 partition 2.
When I boot that and log in I get a Logging Off prompt and 30 seconds
later back to log in screen.
If I reinstall the first drive I can login - and drive assignment is L.
Works OK.
I tried changing to Drive0 partition 2 to P, and Drive 1 partition 2 to
E:
Got the " letter will change after reboot message",
I removed drive0 and tried - failed.
Put it back in and drive1 boots.
Did various combinations...
I removed drive0 and tried Drive1/part2 again - failed.
Removed drive0.
I booted C (normal XP) and I can see this in windowsupdate logfile on
"Drive L"
( I don't care about updating- it's turned off before backup.)
So even after I choose " change letter", with no other drive in there, it
is staying at L:
Why ?
( Dates below -Jan 8 was using for testing - see it refers to drive as E)
Today it shows as L: even after choosing "Change Drive Letter", UNLESS
original drive in there.

Since this image has seen this drive ( s/n etc??) as drive L:, how to make
XP "forget" ?

2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.381, tz: -0500) ===========
2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Misc = Process:
\??\E:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Misc = Module:
E:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll
2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Shutdwn FATAL: WUAutoUpdateAtShutdown
failed, hr=8024A000
2008-01-08 11:50:41:359 1024 6b8 AU ########### AU: Uninitializing
Automatic Updates ###########
2008-01-08 11:50:41:375 1024 6b8 Service *********
2008-01-08 11:50:41:375 1024 6b8 Service ** END ** Service: Service
exit [Exit code = 0x240001]
2008-01-08 11:50:41:375 1024 6b8 Service *************
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.381, tz: -0400) ===========
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Misc = Process:
\??\L:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Misc = Module:
L:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll
2008-03-22 09:43:13:500 236 f0 Shutdwn Install at shutdown: no updates
to install
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Shutdwn FATAL:
WUCheckForUpdatesAtShutdown failed, hr=80240FFF
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.381, tz: -0400) ===========
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Misc = Process:
\??\L:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Misc = Module:
L:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Shutdwn FATAL: WUAutoUpdateAtShutdown
failed, hr=80240FFF

Any easy way to fix this ?
Thanks
 
B

- Bobb -

Still no go. I found this
http://www.partition-saving.com/
and in 11-h, he describes my issue.
After restoring image from E to my drive, it sees that partition as L: so
startup fails " Can't find L:\windows\filename'

Anyone familiar with that SAVEPART app ??? I'm hesitant about running
a 10 yr old utility that doesn't mention NTFS, but that's the idea - I
need to " make it forget about drive L' AND I can't log into it to change
registry.

Anyone agree that's the problem ? and not some file living on the C: drive
, etc ?

Next step would be to boot XP with ONLY the x64/ Beta XP drive in there.
Go into registry and delete all references to any drive BUT C , D and E.
( the 3 partitions on that drive)
Restore THAT to the other drive and ( hopefully) since it wouldn't have
any knowloedge of a drive L, it would load that vanilla XP as E: Tedious
though and grateful for any shortcuts/insight.
Thanks
Bobb



- Bobb - said:
I'll change the title of this to real reason for problem.

Since this image has seen this drive ( s/n etc??) as drive L:, how to
make XP "forget" ?

My "normal boot drive is drive 1"
I boot to
Vista / XP menu
-------
if XP then I choose
Drive 0 or Drive 1
menu
---
2 drives -
If I boot Beta XP on drive 0, XP's view is:
Drive0 partitions: X64( C) , XP - for beta testing(E), Vista32
(V),Vista64(X), Temp (T) area
and when I was using E for testing the second drive looked like this to
XP
Drive1 partitions: XP (K): XP_backup (L), Archive (D)

If I boot Drive1, part0,
It's view shows Drive1 as
C = XP
E= XP_backup
D=Archive

That's all normal and how I've wanted it, NOW I want to remove Drive0
(testing over) and use that image on drive1 to replace the XP_Backup
partition. ( It's a vanilla/uptodate version of XP and I thought I'd use
it to "start fresh" with XP rather than my current copy which is .. how
old now ?)

I backed up (via ghost) partition #2 on drive 0 to a file.
WHEN I backup, that partition was E and my current target was L:
Now - my objective is to remove the X64 drive ( all done beta testing)
I restore Drive0 partition 2 image to Drive 1 partition 2.
When I boot that and log in I get a Logging Off prompt and 30 seconds
later back to log in screen.
If I reinstall the first drive I can login - and drive assignment is L.
Works OK.
I tried changing to Drive0 partition 2 to P, and Drive 1 partition 2 to
E:
Got the " letter will change after reboot message",
I removed drive0 and tried - failed.
Put it back in and drive1 boots.
Did various combinations...
I removed drive0 and tried Drive1/part2 again - failed.
Removed drive0.
I booted C (normal XP) and I can see this in windowsupdate logfile on
"Drive L"
( I don't care about updating- it's turned off before backup.)
So even after I choose " change letter", with no other drive in there,
it is staying at L:
Why ?
( Dates below -Jan 8 was using for testing - see it refers to drive as
E)
Today it shows as L: even after choosing "Change Drive Letter", UNLESS
original drive in there.

Since this image has seen this drive ( s/n etc??) as drive L:, how to
make XP "forget" ?

2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.381, tz: -0500) ===========
2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Misc = Process:
\??\E:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Misc = Module:
E:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll
2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Shutdwn FATAL: WUAutoUpdateAtShutdown
failed, hr=8024A000
2008-01-08 11:50:41:359 1024 6b8 AU ########### AU: Uninitializing
Automatic Updates ###########
2008-01-08 11:50:41:375 1024 6b8 Service *********
2008-01-08 11:50:41:375 1024 6b8 Service ** END ** Service: Service
exit [Exit code = 0x240001]
2008-01-08 11:50:41:375 1024 6b8 Service *************
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.381, tz: -0400) ===========
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Misc = Process:
\??\L:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Misc = Module:
L:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll
2008-03-22 09:43:13:500 236 f0 Shutdwn Install at shutdown: no updates
to install
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Shutdwn FATAL:
WUCheckForUpdatesAtShutdown failed, hr=80240FFF
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.381, tz: -0400) ===========
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Misc = Process:
\??\L:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Misc = Module:
L:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Shutdwn FATAL: WUAutoUpdateAtShutdown
failed, hr=80240FFF

Any easy way to fix this ?
Thanks
 
B

- Bobb -

How to clean up "What the OS knew about drive letter assignment"?
Of course I'm just trying to NOT have to reinstall XP / all the updates
etc - since I already have had it once. But also I'm doing it to learn
different ways to move an install between drives. Same PC, Same s/n, etc
just want to remove one drive and move XP from part #2 on that drive to
part#2 on another drive.


My problem is the image has " Seen this partition already and assigned it
the drive letter L:"
So when windows starts and loads the registry, it can't "find drive L"".
I'm thinking that it's the drive letter assignment
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices
\DosDevices = L: must be listed in the image.

SO, if I temporarily install and boot the original partition and delete
the
\DosDevices = L: line in the registry and Back THAT UP, will the restore
work ?

Will XP then "forget " that "this drive was once called L: " and assign it
a new letter ?
Or is that reference in a lot more places than " Mounted Devices".
I'll disable all CD's etc so XP will "already know about C and D" and
assign it E:



I backed up (via ghost) partition #2 on drive 0 to a file.
WHEN I backup, that partition was E and my current target was L:
Now - my objective is to remove the X64 drive ( all done beta testing)
I restore Drive0 partition 2 image to Drive 1 partition 2.
When I boot that and log in I get a Logging Off prompt and 30 seconds
later back to log in screen.
If I reinstall the first drive I can login - and drive assignment is L.
Works OK.
I tried changing to Drive0 partition 2 to P, and Drive 1 partition 2
to E:
Got the " letter will change after reboot message",
I removed drive0 and tried - failed.
Put it back in and drive1 boots.
Did various combinations...
I removed drive0 and tried Drive1/part2 again - failed.
Removed drive0.
I booted C (normal XP) and I can see this in windowsupdate logfile on
"Drive L"
( I don't care about updating- it's turned off before backup.)
So even after I choose " change letter", with no other drive in there,
it is staying at L:
Why ?
( Dates below -Jan 8 was using for testing - see it refers to drive as
E)
Today it shows as L: even after choosing "Change Drive Letter", UNLESS
original drive in there.

Since this image has seen this drive ( s/n etc??) as drive L:, how to
make XP "forget" ?

2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.381, tz: -0500) ===========
2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Misc = Process:
\??\E:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Misc = Module:
E:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll
2008-01-08 11:50:40:812 660 b00 Shutdwn FATAL: WUAutoUpdateAtShutdown
failed, hr=8024A000
2008-01-08 11:50:41:359 1024 6b8 AU ########### AU: Uninitializing
Automatic Updates ###########
2008-01-08 11:50:41:375 1024 6b8 Service *********
2008-01-08 11:50:41:375 1024 6b8 Service ** END ** Service: Service
exit [Exit code = 0x240001]
2008-01-08 11:50:41:375 1024 6b8 Service *************
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.381, tz: -0400) ===========
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Misc = Process:
\??\L:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Misc = Module:
L:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll
2008-03-22 09:43:13:500 236 f0 Shutdwn Install at shutdown: no
updates to install
2008-03-22 09:43:13:515 236 f0 Shutdwn FATAL:
WUCheckForUpdatesAtShutdown failed, hr=80240FFF
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.381, tz: -0400) ===========
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Misc = Process:
\??\L:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Misc = Module:
L:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll
2008-03-22 09:43:17:171 236 368 Shutdwn FATAL: WUAutoUpdateAtShutdown
failed, hr=80240FFF

Any easy way to fix this ?
Thanks
 

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