Logging boot up with XP SP2

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Hi, some time ago I viewed a listing of the complete boot up sequence with
THE TIME of each step. This allowed me to find the program that was delaying
the start up process. Now I need to do it again but cannot recall the program
or utility that provided this "detailed boot up list - with timing". Anybody
know how to do it?
 
In Grey Nomad had this to say:

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Hi, some time ago I viewed a listing of the complete boot up sequence
with THE TIME of each step. This allowed me to find the program that
was delaying the start up process. Now I need to do it again but
cannot recall the program or utility that provided this "detailed
boot up list - with timing". Anybody know how to do it?

bootvis...

You can read about it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/sysperf/fastboot/bootvis.mspx

I think they pulled it off the site 'cause too many people were running
about claiming it helped things. *sigh* It was a diagnostic utility, that'd
be about it. Anyhow... You can still find it via searching I'm sure but try
to make sure it is a reputable download site.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"At present I am, as you know, fairly busy, but I propose to devote my
declining years to the composition of a textbook which shall focus the
whole art of detection into one volume." - Sherlock Holmes
 
Galen said:
In Grey Nomad had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:


bootvis...

You can read about it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/sysperf/fastboot/bootvis.mspx

I think they pulled it off the site 'cause too many people were running
about claiming it helped things. *sigh* It was a diagnostic utility, that'd
be about it. Anyhow... You can still find it via searching I'm sure but try
to make sure it is a reputable download site.
Thanks Galen, however the program that I used previously (12 mths ago?)
simply produced a text file that consisted of a list of software and drivers
with the start (or finish) times. It was obvious that something called
"bonjour" was hanging. I removed it from the start up using MSCONFIG -
problem solved.
I now have something hanging for 120 seconds and I don't know how to
identify it (I have tried process of elimination in MSCONFIG but it had no
effect).
Have looked at Bootvis.exe and it is definately not for old grey nomads like
me :-)
Cheers
 
In Grey Nomad had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
Thanks Galen, however the program that I used previously (12 mths
ago?) simply produced a text file that consisted of a list of
software and drivers with the start (or finish) times. It was obvious
that something called "bonjour" was hanging. I removed it from the
start up using MSCONFIG - problem solved.
I now have something hanging for 120 seconds and I don't know how to
identify it (I have tried process of elimination in MSCONFIG but it
had no effect).
Have looked at Bootvis.exe and it is definately not for old grey
nomads like me :-)
Cheers

Bootvis is the only app that I know of. Sorry 'bout that? Someone else might
know. (It's not too hard and if you poke at it enough times you'll figure it
out I'm sure.) I also think bootvis only tells of hardware... Hmm...

So... It's not nearly as fast?

Disable (not delete) stuff...

Startup Control Panel:
http://lcs.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

Then start rebooting and checking. ;)

It's not fast but you'll get the job done. Just keep adding stuff, one by
one, until you get the problem solved. My reply-to email works as planned
here and if you want you can email me a copy of the things you have running
at startup and I'll take a gander if you'd like.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"At present I am, as you know, fairly busy, but I propose to devote my
declining years to the composition of a textbook which shall focus the
whole art of detection into one volume." - Sherlock Holmes
 
Grey said:
Hi, some time ago I viewed a listing of the complete boot up sequence with
THE TIME of each step. This allowed me to find the program that was delaying
the start up process. Now I need to do it again but cannot recall the program
or utility that provided this "detailed boot up list - with timing". Anybody
know how to do it?

Enable Boot Logging: This option turns on logging when the computer is
started with any of the Safe Boot options except Last Known Good
Configuration. The Boot Logging text is recorded in the Ntbtlog.txt file
in the %SystemRoot% folder.

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;315222
 
Joe Wright said:
Enable Boot Logging: This option turns on logging when the computer is
started with any of the Safe Boot options except Last Known Good
Configuration. The Boot Logging text is recorded in the Ntbtlog.txt file
in the %SystemRoot% folder.

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;315222
Hi Joe, thanks for that, the problem with ntbtlog is that it does not show
any timing and my problem is (the usual) a long delay at some point during
boot (from COLD boot that is). ntbtlog looks like:
Loaded driver srescan.sys
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\intelppm.sys
I need to know which one of these took 2 and a half minutes!
Interestingly, a restart from the "Start menu" only takes 60 seconds.
Cheers
Grey Nomad
 
Galen said:
In Grey Nomad had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:


Bootvis is the only app that I know of. Sorry 'bout that? Someone else might
know. (It's not too hard and if you poke at it enough times you'll figure it
out I'm sure.) I also think bootvis only tells of hardware... Hmm...

So... It's not nearly as fast?

Disable (not delete) stuff...

Startup Control Panel:
http://lcs.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

Then start rebooting and checking. ;)

It's not fast but you'll get the job done. Just keep adding stuff, one by
one, until you get the problem solved. My reply-to email works as planned
here and if you want you can email me a copy of the things you have running
at startup and I'll take a gander if you'd like.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"At present I am, as you know, fairly busy, but I propose to devote my
declining years to the composition of a textbook which shall focus the
whole art of detection into one volume." - Sherlock Holmes


THE PLOT THICKENS..
After hours of "the process of elimination" it has turned out that I can
replicate the problem consistently by disabling my wireless network (cable
network has no effect and disabling any software has no effect). Either
switching off the router, or disabling wireless networking in my machine will
cause boot up to go from 60 seconds to over two and a half minutes. Does this
indicate something and where do I go from here ? ([be nice!] :-)
The old Grey Nomad
 
In Grey Nomad had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
After hours of "the process of elimination" it has turned out that I
can replicate the problem consistently by disabling my wireless
network (cable network has no effect and disabling any software has
no effect). Either switching off the router, or disabling wireless
networking in my machine will cause boot up to go from 60 seconds to
over two and a half minutes. Does this indicate something and where
do I go from here ? ([be nice!] :-)
The old Grey Nomad

Sort of... If you haven't much to do you can do two things.

The first is, well, disable the wireless networking by default and then -
after booting - enable it if you need it.

The second is to check with any wireless devices - are you getting signals
from something else and then the network searching for the default? Along
with that you can check for (assuming you do use wireless) device upgrades
but I really suspect it is looking for a second network during boot or
you're grabbing another network during boot and the compute cycles used to
pick which is the default may well have something to do with the login
times. That is JUST a guess (a stab in the dark if you will) but that's
where I'd start... If wireless isn't your primary then (honestly) turn it
off and just use it when you need it.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"At present I am, as you know, fairly busy, but I propose to devote my
declining years to the composition of a textbook which shall focus the
whole art of detection into one volume." - Sherlock Holmes
 
Grey said:
Hi Joe, thanks for that, the problem with ntbtlog is that it does not show
any timing and my problem is (the usual) a long delay at some point during
boot (from COLD boot that is). ntbtlog looks like:
Loaded driver srescan.sys
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\intelppm.sys
I need to know which one of these took 2 and a half minutes!
Interestingly, a restart from the "Start menu" only takes 60 seconds.
Cheers
Grey Nomad

Well, I believe what I had in mind was Bootlog Analyzer. Maybe I
misunderstood it to be a Windows utility.
 
Galen said:
In Grey Nomad had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
After hours of "the process of elimination" it has turned out that I
can replicate the problem consistently by disabling my wireless
network (cable network has no effect and disabling any software has
no effect). Either switching off the router, or disabling wireless
networking in my machine will cause boot up to go from 60 seconds to
over two and a half minutes. Does this indicate something and where
do I go from here ? ([be nice!] :-)
The old Grey Nomad

Sort of... If you haven't much to do you can do two things.

The first is, well, disable the wireless networking by default and then -
after booting - enable it if you need it.

The second is to check with any wireless devices - are you getting signals
from something else and then the network searching for the default? Along
with that you can check for (assuming you do use wireless) device upgrades
but I really suspect it is looking for a second network during boot or
you're grabbing another network during boot and the compute cycles used to
pick which is the default may well have something to do with the login
times. That is JUST a guess (a stab in the dark if you will) but that's
where I'd start... If wireless isn't your primary then (honestly) turn it
off and just use it when you need it.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"At present I am, as you know, fairly busy, but I propose to devote my
declining years to the composition of a textbook which shall focus the
whole art of detection into one volume." - Sherlock Holmes
Er... the other way round. It boots ok if the wireless network is available.
But if I take my notebook away from the network - then the boot up is dead
slow. PS. I updated the D-Link wireless network drivers but it changed
nothing.
 
In Grey Nomad had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
Galen said:
In Grey Nomad had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
After hours of "the process of elimination" it has turned out that I
can replicate the problem consistently by disabling my wireless
network (cable network has no effect and disabling any software has
no effect). Either switching off the router, or disabling wireless
networking in my machine will cause boot up to go from 60 seconds to
over two and a half minutes. Does this indicate something and where
do I go from here ? ([be nice!] :-)
The old Grey Nomad

Sort of... If you haven't much to do you can do two things.

The first is, well, disable the wireless networking by default and
then - after booting - enable it if you need it.

The second is to check with any wireless devices - are you getting
signals from something else and then the network searching for the
default? Along with that you can check for (assuming you do use
wireless) device upgrades but I really suspect it is looking for a
second network during boot or you're grabbing another network during
boot and the compute cycles used to pick which is the default may
well have something to do with the login times. That is JUST a guess
(a stab in the dark if you will) but that's where I'd start... If
wireless isn't your primary then (honestly) turn it off and just use
it when you need it.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"At present I am, as you know, fairly busy, but I propose to devote
my declining years to the composition of a textbook which shall
focus the whole art of detection into one volume." - Sherlock Holmes
Er... the other way round. It boots ok if the wireless network is
available. But if I take my notebook away from the network - then the
boot up is dead slow. PS. I updated the D-Link wireless network
drivers but it changed nothing.

Do you have a networked drive that is mapped maybe? (Why is it that I seem
to find the unusual questions?) I'm stretching with this one though...

It doesn't seem likely that it is a hardware issue. *blindly stabbing in the
dark here*

Without getting too specific? It, the PC, is likely expecting, looking for
something, or loading something from the network and when the network's not
available it spends x-amount of time looking before giving up and completing
the login. It makes no difference what programs you have loading? And
example of where I've seen this happen is where someone has set an
application (such as the antivirus application) to update off a network
drive or to update prior to scanning so it will either look to update over
the internet on boot or it will try to update from a networked share.

So, well, I freely admit the above is the only LOGICAL reason I could think
of that happening - that doesn't mean that is the reason nor is it the only
logical reason - it's just that is the only one that I can think of. I
think, if I were you, and the above isn't the case or doesn't help you to
troubleshoot it then asking in the networking group might be your next step.
A networking MVP I am not.

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web

(It might be easier to use a newsgroup client such as Outlook Express - the
above link should take you right there by default.)

More info:

Access MS Newsgroups:
http://kgiii.info/windows/all/general/msnewsgroups.html

Again, the above is a stab in the dark. I truly don't know and have
exhausted what I can think of or find though I think I'd check with the
networking gurus now that you've established that much.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"At present I am, as you know, fairly busy, but I propose to devote my
declining years to the composition of a textbook which shall focus the
whole art of detection into one volume." - Sherlock Holmes
 

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