Location of 'Documents & Settings' folder

[Ignoramus]

Help! I cannot seem to find the 'Documents & Settings' folder in my new
VISTA PC. I have tried searching for it, but to no avail.

Where could it be hiding and for that matter why does a search for
normal.dot OR normal*.dot reveal nothing? I do have Office 2007 loaded on
this PC.

 

[Richard G. Harper]

Look for the "Users" folder instead - this is the new location of the
profile, All User and Default User folders.

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[seth]

Microsoft changed the location of several of these common folders.
the documents and settings folder technically is still there, but is
configured as an ntfs junction (essentially a file system redirect)
the user profile settings are under C:\users

the template you are looking for should be under
C:\users\%username%\appdata\roaming\microsoft\templates\normal.dotm
your search probably revealed nothing if you searched for *.dot since office
2007 file extensions have changed also

 

[Chad Harris]

Hi Ignoramus--

In Vista "Documents and Settings" isn't really a folder. It's a "junction
point" - like a soft link, in Unix.

The *real* directory where user data is kept in Vista, is called "C:\Users".
If you use "Users" in place of "Documents and Settings" you should be sweet.
Eg, C:\Users\Ignoramus' Profile on Vista\Documents, etc.

The "Documents and Settings" junction point exists to preserve compatibility
for applications which have this path name hard-coded. Well-behaved
applications should not have a hard-coded "Documents and Settings" string;
they should call SHGetSpecialFolder() instead, to find the User directory on
a system. But just a sad fact of life, many apps out there do look for a
"Documents and Settings" directory ....

"Users" is preferable to "Documents and Settings" because many apps have
problems with path names containing spaces. It also soaks up more chars
from the limited 260 char MAX_PATH length for directory names. Finally,
"Users" is more intuitive for folks coming from Unix and other, more normal
operating system environments

The "Documents and Settings" junction point is usually hidden and not
visible in Explorer. If you are seeing it in an obtrusive way, you may have
turned ON the folder option to see hidden files.

Refs on Junction Points in Vista:

http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/jpoints.htm

http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/joshs_blog/archive/2006/09/28/Windows-Vista-Junction-Points.aspx

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/WindowsVistaJunctionsAndMovingMyDocumentsToAnotherDrive.aspx

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/MoreOnVistaReparsePoints.aspx

Good luck,

CH

 

[Ignoramus]

I did look in the Users Folder - both in Public as well as >myname< - but I
cannot find the usual 'Application Data' or Templates directory after that.

Any further clues?

 

[DP]

There's no "Documents" menu choice after you click start? In the right-hand
pane near the top?

 

[Dave]

C:\Users\youraccount\AppData
it's hidden by default.

 

[Ignoramus]

Chad & Seth,

Thanks for the detailed responses and for taking the time to explain
'junction points' - that was a new one for me!

My problem is that I cannot find a sub-directory called 'Appdata' in my
Users folder (even though my Win Explorer is set to show hidden files). I
need this to migrate my older Winword Autotext entries (from a Office XP
running on Win 2000 Pro) to my new Vista PC. This should be possible as per
MS (see
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Offic...6970-45c6-9b05-6a64cf1fbe711033.mspx?mfr=true)
but I cannot start doing this if I cannot find AppData!

Thanks

 

[John Barnes]

It is now just called Documents and is in your User folder
Where are you looking for your dot

 

[Ignoramus]

Yes, there is - but it only contains a folder called 'My Google Gadgets'
which is some crapola that the PC manufacturer loaded to earn a few
Googlebucks. The documents folder you refer to seems to be only there for
documents that I create and not for system docs that were contained in the
'old' Documents and Settings folder in previous incarnations of Windows

 

[Richard G. Harper]

%APPDATA% is what is called a metatag - it is not an actual directory name,
but rather a placeholder for the actual location of the Application Data
folder since it changes between Windows versions. So if you follow the
advice given a few replies ago you will find the new location of the
Application Data folder.

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[Guest]

YEAH! I was having the same problem as you. After (literally) 1-1/2 hours
and tears since I work at home and needed templates before I could start, I
FINALLY found them.

<my name>/AppData/Roaming/Microsoft/Templates

I have no idea where they got "roaming!" Everytime I even tried to search
for Templates, it would say, "access denied." I had just about given
up--just as I was thinking Vista wasn't so bad.

Oh, well. I hope this helped.