LinuxInsider Editor Didn't Even Use Linux.......

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Moshe Goldfarb.

......until now.

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/64306.html

It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make the
move to Linux?

How on earth did this guy even get the job?

Maybe there is hope for Roy Schestowitz to find a real job after all.

You have to read the article to see what a nightmare this guy went through
getting Linux installed.

Notice how he justifies all the difficult parts........

This guy would be more at home as a *Fresher Fluffer* at University of
Manchester GB.

Hey maybe Roy Schestowitz can put in a good word for him?

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/97bd639f8de08108

"..... No real interferences on the horizon, but the
volume will be hard to sustain when the undergrads return next week
(Freshers' Week). I need to help getting newcomers connected (my daytime
job).

Best wishes,

Roy ""
 
M

Moshe Goldfarb.

The article is an absolute gem!!!

- "As editor for LinuxInsider for more than a year now, I figured the time
was right to start walking the walk with my personal machine."

Translation: He sounds like a typical COLA hypocrite. Advocate linux but run
Windows.



- "Can I use iTunes? Nope, but there are a couple of apps -- such as Amarok
and GTKPod -- that allow you to sync the device. You won't be able to use
the iTunes store, but do you really want to pay Apple to tell you you..."

Translation: "Those grapes are probably sour anyway."


- "How can I get my wireless networking card to work? My old Dell has a
Broadcom B43 wireless chipset. That's a problem with Ubuntu... It took a
small amount of poking around and searching Ubuntu's knowledge base to find
out what I needed to do.

Still, that hasn't solved all of my wireless networking issues.... Problem
is, the guy who asked the original question found his connection suddenly
working for no good reason, so the advice doesn't carry through to the point
where we discover what the actual problem is and how to fix it.

That's the way it is with open source -- tech support is the other users. So
I'll be posting a new question in hopes of finding the answer. I'm just glad
I can hardwire and get Internet access, or the problem would be a lot more
severe.


Translation: After loads of research and configuration wireless still isn't
working on his laptop.



- "Is there an automatic backup feature? Or an app available? Not really,
but Ubuntu Forums has a pretty detailed set of instructions on how to
accomplish a full backup through the command line."

Translation: Gotta love the old command line.





- "Is there a driver for my printer? Yeah, but that doesn't mean it works
out of the box, like it would with Windows. I'm able to print documents, no
problem. Photos, well, that's another story. Apparently I'm not the only
person with the same issue. Sure, there's a workaround -- there always is --
but it means I've got to transfer the photo to an SD card, which I then put
directly into the printer."

Translation: Linux supports lots of printers but only in their most basic
mode. Nice "workaround" by the way - transfer the images to a SD card.
Translation of this is that the linux printer drivers simply can't print an
image.



- "...so making it work takes some tinkering. That's one of the charms of
Linux: You can tinker with it and learn about it along the way,

Translation - "Tinkering - That's one of the charms of Linux." Others would
call it high maintenance. While the editor of "Linux Insider" might think
it's fun and charming to tinker all day with his OS other people simply want
a tool to use. To most people this is about as charming as a refridgerator
that you need to fix daily or that charming 1976 AMC Gremlin that you get to
"tinker" with every time you want the car to start.



- "...but it's a time-consuming process that probably shouldn't be
undertaken on a machine that you need to "just work" right away."

Translation: Keep a Windows box handy for when you have work to do.


Yea!
I had to read the article twice just to make sure i was reading what I
thought i was reading.

This is a perfect example of the trials and tribulations not to mention the
sacrafices that the average person has to succumb to in order to run Linux.

The kicker is that this guy is an editor of LinuxInsider !!

If he can't make this stuff work with the all the resources he has access
to how does the average person even stand a chance?


What kind of pathetic loser would admit in public that their "daytime job"
is to fluff incoming freshman? Earth calling Roy.... this is *NOT* a job you
fool. If this crap is a "daytime job" then something as sophisticated as a
paper-route or a lemonade stand must fall into the category of "carreer."


Further proof, right from the boobs own mouth, that he, Roy Schestowitz is
a complete fraud.

If reality were available as a soft drink, I would advise Roy Schestowitz
to drink 10 million liters and then maybe, maybe, he might realize what is
going on in the real world and how difficult it is going to be for him to
fit in.
Come to think of it I suppose he has already figured out the latter because
he seems to have made the decision to become a life time student at
University of Manchester GB.

I suppose he could always move up the ladder and become a team lead fresher
fluffer.
 
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Lionel B

.....until now.

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/64306.html
[...]

You have to read the article to see what a nightmare this guy went
through getting Linux installed.

LOL! Reminds me of a couple of years back, I had to reinstall XP on a
Dell Inspiron, as the OS went titsup due to some DLLHell(tm) issues. Now
*that* was a freaking nightmare (new hardware detected - how nice -
drivers not found, please insert CD, drivers still not found, please
reboot, please reboot again - and again... just one more time, thanks,
really... ahhhh... new hardware detected. Bollocks).

Just installed Xubuntu 8.04 today (desktop PC) - took about 1/2 hour,
everything Worked Out Of the Box(tm). What joy(*)

(*) Except for this `sudo' crap... what's the problem with `su -' ffs???
 
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Linonut

CROSS-POSTING RETAINED

* Moshe Goldfarb. peremptorily fired off this memo:
.....until now.

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/64306.html

It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make the
move to Linux?

How on earth did this guy even get the job?

http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20040301051959705

LinuxInsider, whoever they are, goes along with the charade, which is
a very big giveaway that while they may be insiders, they aren't
likely *Linux* insiders.

. . .

"'Call me crazy,' adds Stowell, 'but I somehow think that Pamela
Jones isn't just a paralegal with nothing better to do with her
life than host a Web site called Groklaw that is dedicated to
bashing SCO. I think there is a lot more to her background and
intentions than she is willing to reveal publicly. I believe that
Big Blue looms large behind Pamela Jones.'"

It is tempting to call him crazy, given the kind invitation, but I
think he has no such excuse. And Linux"Insider"? This is yet another
Linux"Insider" article giving Stowell a soapbox from which to attack
the Linux community, and by the way, nobody at Linux"Insider"
bothered to contact me to find out if what they were about to print
was true or to give me an opportunity to respond.
 
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Linonut

* Tim Smith peremptorily fired off this memo:
Don't worry. I'm sure someone will soon find some connection between the
publisher of LinuxInsider and Microsoft (or perhaps Apple--they publish
AppleInsider, too), and so will demonstrate that this was just a paid
hit piece by the enemies of Linux. That's how it always happens.

(Queue chrisv asking for proof that this always happens...)

Hint: Putting "Linux" in your corporate name doesn't mean you know
jack about Linux.

Here, it is obvious! The editor himself practically admits he didn't
know jack about it.

Hint: Putting "Insider" in your corporate name doesn't mean you really
are an "insider".

In the meantime, Zeke and Moshe get to use it as FUD fodder.

I wonder why this story is no longer available:

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/43067.html

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/7biPwnfUcng6bW/Where-the-Buck-Stops.xhtml

Anyway, maybe LinuxInsider is more on-topic these days.
 
D

Damian

Linonut said:
* Tim Smith peremptorily fired off this memo:


Hint: Putting "Linux" in your corporate name doesn't mean you know
jack about Linux.


That's true of newsgroups as well.
 
D

Damian

Lionel said:
.....until now.

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/64306.html
[...]

You have to read the article to see what a nightmare this guy went
through getting Linux installed.

LOL! Reminds me of a couple of years back, I had to reinstall XP on a
Dell Inspiron, as the OS went titsup due to some DLLHell(tm) issues.
Now *that* was a freaking nightmare (new hardware detected - how nice
- drivers not found, please insert CD, drivers still not found, please
reboot, please reboot again - and again... just one more time, thanks,
really... ahhhh... new hardware detected. Bollocks).


Only Two possibilities:

1. Illicit copy of XP.
2. You don't know how to install Windows correctly.

Which?
 
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Linonut

* Damian peremptorily fired off this memo:
That's true of newsgroups as well.

Indeed! We have quite a few people in c.o.l.a. that don't know jack
about Linux. But there they are!
 
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Linonut

* Damian peremptorily fired off this memo:
Only Two possibilities:

1. Illicit copy of XP.
2. You don't know how to install Windows correctly.

Which?

Could be a bad disk, too.

Or an XP disk with a volume license.
 
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Lionel B

Lionel said:
.....until now.

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/64306.html
[...]

You have to read the article to see what a nightmare this guy went
through getting Linux installed.

LOL! Reminds me of a couple of years back, I had to reinstall XP on a
Dell Inspiron, as the OS went titsup due to some DLLHell(tm) issues.
Now *that* was a freaking nightmare (new hardware detected - how nice -
drivers not found, please insert CD, drivers still not found, please
reboot, please reboot again - and again... just one more time, thanks,
really... ahhhh... new hardware detected. Bollocks).


Only Two possibilities:

1. Illicit copy of XP.

Vendor's disk
2. You don't know how to install Windows correctly.

Oh... right... you mean you don't just copy all the stuff off the CD to
your hard drive thingy? Gosh, my bad.

Neither.
 
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Moshe Goldfarb.

Don't worry. I'm sure someone will soon find some connection between the
publisher of LinuxInsider and Microsoft (or perhaps Apple--they publish
AppleInsider, too), and so will demonstrate that this was just a paid
hit piece by the enemies of Linux. That's how it always happens.

(Queue chrisv asking for proof that this always happens...)

They are scrambling around in damage control mode already.
Much like roaches do when a Linux advocate turns on the lights in his
mother's basement.
 
S

Snit

They are scrambling around in damage control mode already.
Much like roaches do when a Linux advocate turns on the lights in his
mother's basement.

The general "damage control" used in COLA is to lash out against those who
know more than you (even if only in a limited area). That is one of the
main reasons Peter Köhlman spews BS about my personal and professional life
and lies about me forging PDFs - it is why Tattoo Vampire lies about me
calling him and makes up stories about my family and calls me a "hippie" who
should find a "real job" [another moron who says teachers do not have real
jobs]. It is why *both* of them call people names and mock others.

They are insecure about themselves. They do not like themselves as they are
and do not think they can become better. They mock people who acknowledge
errors and look for any hole in someone armor where they think they can get
a good "dig".

Steve Carroll of, mostly, CSMA was the same way... and he finally had -
literally - a mental break down. I do not wish the same for Peter and
Tattoo... I sincerely hope they find it in themselves to improve themselves.
 
M

Moshe Goldfarb.

They are scrambling around in damage control mode already.
Much like roaches do when a Linux advocate turns on the lights in his
mother's basement.

The general "damage control" used in COLA is to lash out against those who
know more than you (even if only in a limited area). That is one of the
main reasons Peter Köhlman spews BS about my personal and professional life
and lies about me forging PDFs - it is why Tattoo Vampire lies about me
calling him and makes up stories about my family and calls me a "hippie" who
should find a "real job" [another moron who says teachers do not have real
jobs]. It is why *both* of them call people names and mock others.

They are insecure about themselves. They do not like themselves as they are
and do not think they can become better. They mock people who acknowledge
errors and look for any hole in someone armor where they think they can get
a good "dig".

Steve Carroll of, mostly, CSMA was the same way... and he finally had -
literally - a mental break down. I do not wish the same for Peter and
Tattoo... I sincerely hope they find it in themselves to improve themselves.

I haven't been following your battles however this is basically true.
An example is the FAA thread.
I happen to know a very well placed person, and have for many years and as
a result I know a lot about how that operation works.
And my information, within the limits of the systems I am familiar with via
this connection, is right on the money.

This is compared to "press releases" and pure speculation on the part of
the Linux loons in this group.
I tell it like it is and I don't really give a hoot what the problem was
other than to discuss it and possibly offer better solutions.

Another example is the "it works for me" aka CUPS thread where I point
out that the Linux loons were squawking about this long before Eric Raymond
wrote that scathing article.

They have done it for years and it's simply a lie which came out later when
normal people tried doing these various tasks and failed.

Kohlmann of course chimes in with his proof mantra.
I offered proof.
But then he starts up his little game about the proof not being good
enough.
Sorry, I don't get sucked into his vortex anymore.

Then of course Linonut has to point out that I posted the same thread link
twice as if this means anything.
It's proof and there is plenty more.

Google is FULL of Linux nuts claiming the fonts in Linux for example or
printers just *work* for them and this is way back years ago and in some
cases before they even had antialiasing on fonts and they truly looked
jagged and horrible.

For them to lie and try and discredit me with their usual "proof" crap is
ludicrous because Linonut and Kohlmann were here when all that stuff was
going on and they know full well what was said.


Several of these people here obviously have some kind of mental problem
when it comes to being honest about Linux.
I fail to understand this but I suspect it arises from being insecure,
being locked into jobs where they are using Windows 10 hours a day to earn
their living and it having some kind of effect on their psyche.

Look at Schestowitz for example.
Is his behavior even remotely normal for a college age young adult who
should be building his life?

The list goes on an on.

You can bet your sweet bippy that if it had been the editor of Microsoft
World that used Linux they would be squealing with delight.
In fact they squeal over the fact that Microsoft has a Linux lab or that
Microsoft's 3rd party caching servers run Linux.

In short the majority of comp.os.linux.advocacy's *advocates* are not
advocates at all.
They are doing far more harm to Linux than they are helping the cause.

Someone on digg put it nicely:

"Roy Schestowitz is to Linux what Pat Robertson is to religion. He scares
away more people than he converts".

This is true of many of the COLA Linux loons.
 
S

Snit

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:22:20 -0700, Tim Smith wrote:

.....until now.

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/64306.html

It took him over a year working as an editor for LinuxInsider to make the
move to Linux?

How on earth did this guy even get the job?

Don't worry. I'm sure someone will soon find some connection between the
publisher of LinuxInsider and Microsoft (or perhaps Apple--they publish
AppleInsider, too), and so will demonstrate that this was just a paid
hit piece by the enemies of Linux. That's how it always happens.

(Queue chrisv asking for proof that this always happens...)

They are scrambling around in damage control mode already.
Much like roaches do when a Linux advocate turns on the lights in his
mother's basement.

The general "damage control" used in COLA is to lash out against those who
know more than you (even if only in a limited area). That is one of the
main reasons Peter Köhlman spews BS about my personal and professional life
and lies about me forging PDFs - it is why Tattoo Vampire lies about me
calling him and makes up stories about my family and calls me a "hippie" who
should find a "real job" [another moron who says teachers do not have real
jobs]. It is why *both* of them call people names and mock others.

They are insecure about themselves. They do not like themselves as they are
and do not think they can become better. They mock people who acknowledge
errors and look for any hole in someone armor where they think they can get
a good "dig".

Steve Carroll of, mostly, CSMA was the same way... and he finally had -
literally - a mental break down. I do not wish the same for Peter and
Tattoo... I sincerely hope they find it in themselves to improve themselves.

I haven't been following your battles however this is basically true.
An example is the FAA thread.
I happen to know a very well placed person, and have for many years and as
a result I know a lot about how that operation works.
And my information, within the limits of the systems I am familiar with via
this connection, is right on the money.

This is compared to "press releases" and pure speculation on the part of
the Linux loons in this group.
I tell it like it is and I don't really give a hoot what the problem was
other than to discuss it and possibly offer better solutions.

Another example is the "it works for me" aka CUPS thread where I point
out that the Linux loons were squawking about this long before Eric Raymond
wrote that scathing article.

They have done it for years and it's simply a lie which came out later when
normal people tried doing these various tasks and failed.

Curious what the CUPS problems are. It is now owned and maintained by a
very professional group (Apple) so I would expect it to become at least
reasonably good - and excellent at meeting Apple's specific needs.
Kohlmann of course chimes in with his proof mantra.

Köhlmann is the last person on the planet who has any moral authority to
demand "proof". When was his last post where he referenced me that he did
not accuse me of having a sock puppet? How many times in the last month has
he spewed BS about my family - information he *clearly* knows nothing about?
How often has he completely dodged any effort to get him to back up the BS
his self-loathing inspires him to post?
I offered proof.
But then he starts up his little game about the proof not being good
enough.
Sorry, I don't get sucked into his vortex anymore.

Then of course Linonut has to point out that I posted the same thread link
twice as if this means anything.
It's proof and there is plenty more.

Ah, Peter keep accusing me of forging a PDF... so I re-post the proof that
*every* piece of data I claim is verifiable... and then he whines that I am
reposting the same disproof to his idiotic and unsupported accusation.

I used to work at summer camps - I had a 7 year old in my cabin one year who
complained that "so-and-so is hitting me back". Well, that is what Peter is
doing... whining that I am "hitting" him back by proving his accusation is a
lie.
Google is FULL of Linux nuts claiming the fonts in Linux for example or
printers just *work* for them and this is way back years ago and in some
cases before they even had antialiasing on fonts and they truly looked
jagged and horrible.

I remember some of those debates.
For them to lie and try and discredit me with their usual "proof" crap is
ludicrous because Linonut and Kohlmann were here when all that stuff was
going on and they know full well what was said.

They will not be honest about it.
Several of these people here obviously have some kind of mental problem
when it comes to being honest about Linux.
I fail to understand this but I suspect it arises from being insecure,
being locked into jobs where they are using Windows 10 hours a day to earn
their living and it having some kind of effect on their psyche.

Look at Schestowitz for example.
Is his behavior even remotely normal for a college age young adult who
should be building his life?

The list goes on an on.

You can bet your sweet bippy that if it had been the editor of Microsoft
World that used Linux they would be squealing with delight.
In fact they squeal over the fact that Microsoft has a Linux lab or that
Microsoft's 3rd party caching servers run Linux.

In short the majority of comp.os.linux.advocacy's *advocates* are not
advocates at all.
Agreed.

They are doing far more harm to Linux than they are helping the cause.

Someone on digg put it nicely:

"Roy Schestowitz is to Linux what Pat Robertson is to religion. He scares
away more people than he converts".

This is true of many of the COLA Linux loons.

Robertsom is sane compared to many in COLA.
 
M

Moshe Goldfarb.

Curious what the CUPS problems are. It is now owned and maintained by a
very professional group (Apple) so I would expect it to become at least
reasonably good - and excellent at meeting Apple's specific needs.


Which is why it works reasonably well these days, assuming a qualit driver
is available for your printer model.

I'm talking about years ago when it was very difficult to configure, like
Eric Raymond reported when HE had problems with it.

At that time, and well before that letter, the loons in COLA claimed it was
easy, they just plugged in their printer, etc.

You know the usual stuff.
Köhlmann is the last person on the planet who has any moral authority to
demand "proof". When was his last post where he referenced me that he did
not accuse me of having a sock puppet? How many times in the last month has
he spewed BS about my family - information he *clearly* knows nothing about?
How often has he completely dodged any effort to get him to back up the BS
his self-loathing inspires him to post?

Peter is a very bitter person.


Ah, Peter keep accusing me of forging a PDF... so I re-post the proof that
*every* piece of data I claim is verifiable... and then he whines that I am
reposting the same disproof to his idiotic and unsupported accusation.

I used to work at summer camps - I had a 7 year old in my cabin one year who
complained that "so-and-so is hitting me back". Well, that is what Peter is
doing... whining that I am "hitting" him back by proving his accusation is a
lie.

I haven't been following all this but Peter loves to make accusations but
when asked for proof he will never provide you with any.
He usually runs away.
I remember some of those debates.

So do the Linux advocates but being the liars that they are, they will
deny, discredit and attack rather than admit the truth.
They will not be honest about it.

Of course not.

Robertsom is sane compared to many in COLA.

Yes he is....
 
S

Snit

Which is why it works reasonably well these days, assuming a qualit driver
is available for your printer model.

I'm talking about years ago when it was very difficult to configure, like
Eric Raymond reported when HE had problems with it.

At that time, and well before that letter, the loons in COLA claimed it was
easy, they just plugged in their printer, etc.

You know the usual stuff.

OK... that makes more sense. I thought you meant serious issues with CUPS
as it is... and I had not heard of any.
Peter is a very bitter person.

No doubt. None at all.
I haven't been following all this but Peter loves to make accusations but
when asked for proof he will never provide you with any.
He usually runs away.

He is not running away now... he whines about the proof he is a liar and
then re-posts his *same* lie. Then whines that the proof he is a liar is
being posted again.

He may very well be mentally ill. Really.
So do the Linux advocates but being the liars that they are, they will
deny, discredit and attack rather than admit the truth.

No doubt. None at all.

....
 
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Linonut

* Damian peremptorily fired off this memo:
Oh, please Lord, forgive me for recognizing ignorance when I see it and
pointing it out. Amen.

But you pointed out half of the possibilities.
 
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