Linux Knoppix CD

[SteveL]

I have read several posts about this utility disk to be
used in case you are unable to read your hard drive and
retrieve your data.

I am not very familiar with Linux, but can Linux read NTFS
and or Fat file systems? I am assuming that it can.

Does anyone have a link where I can educate myself on this
issue? And a link to a Linux forun like this one? I had
downloaded the Full Red Hat 9 cd's and had questions in
regards to the installation.

Thanks to all...

 

[Jone Doe]

wow, are you asking the wrong question in the wrong group.

Let the flaming begin.

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi,

Yes Linux can read NTFS or FAT32 partitions. If you want to go to a linux
group, you best be hardened against denigrating comments and innuendo, as
they get pretty rugged. Try looking here:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Paul Smith]

I am not very familiar with Linux, but can Linux read NTFS
and or Fat file systems? I am assuming that it can.

NTFS - no, FAT - may be, I've had no luck reading FAT32 drives with my RH
out of the box, although I never bothered checking for 3rd party tools.

Does anyone have a link where I can educate myself on this
issue? And a link to a Linux forun like this one? I had
downloaded the Full Red Hat 9 cd's and had questions in
regards to the installation.

If your ISP's news server carries some *nix groups that would be the best
place to look first. You could always resort to google.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
http://windows.dasmirnov.net/ Windows XP Resource Site.

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[Paul Smith]

wow, are you asking the wrong question in the wrong group.

If your average home desktop user had Linux as their primary OS I'd predict
they'd be put of computers for life within say 40 minutes.

It's only really when you try out the competition you really learn how
amazing Windows XP is for your average home user, or your average power user
who doesn't like spending 2 sodding hours a day solely on applying thousands
of security updates and re-compiling the kernel every week because of some
major flaw. Let's not even go near the stability (or lack of) for the UIs
for Linux.



--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
http://windows.dasmirnov.net/ Windows XP Resource Site.

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[SteveL]

Read my post once more then reply intelligently. I hope
that you do have some intelligence.

 

[Paul Smith]

NTFS - no, FAT - may be, I've had no luck reading FAT32 drives with my RH
out of the box, although I never bothered checking for 3rd party tools.

Yes Linux can read NTFS or FAT32 partitions.

This is what happens when I'm up at quarter past 3 in the morning. ;-)

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
http://windows.dasmirnov.net/ Windows XP Resource Site.

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[Michael]

I have the Knoppix 1.0 beta CD - a 633MB or more ISO download; actually, it
fills the whole CD and you need a good CD writer.
I can boot Knoppix from CD and 'see' all my XP directories and files on NTFS
drive, but did not need to move/delete any.
It took a li'l bit of tweaking to enable a generic mouse driver to use with
the keyboard arrows, though. I use a wireless, optical, USB mouse, so
Knoppix by itself could not install a driver for it, and I was too lazy to
reboot for a PS/2 regular mouse. I tried to install the WIFI card also...
but I gave up cause it was wasting too much of my time and nerves
Anyways, Knoppix from CD might be a useful tool - I've read some 'horror'
stories about dual booting XP and Knoppix - so give it a try.
Michael

 

[Jone Doe]

andnow I guess you are looking to be ignored too. OK, so be it.

 

[Michael Stevens]

I have read several posts about this utility disk to be
used in case you are unable to read your hard drive and
retrieve your data.

I am not very familiar with Linux, but can Linux read NTFS
and or Fat file systems? I am assuming that it can.

Does anyone have a link where I can educate myself on this
issue? And a link to a Linux forun like this one? I had
downloaded the Full Red Hat 9 cd's and had questions in
regards to the installation.

Thanks to all...

This is from the Knoppix FAQ. A good place to start looking for information
on Knoppix BTW. <G>

Q: Ok, I've booted Knoppix, now how do I rescue the data?
A1: See http://www.shockfamily.net/cedric/knoppix/

Knoppix FAQ
http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixFaq
--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

 

[SteveL]

LOL, more then in here? Thanks Nut

-----Original Message-----
Hi,

Yes Linux can read NTFS or FAT32 partitions. If you want to go to a linux
group, you best be hardened against denigrating comments and innuendo, as
they get pretty rugged. Try looking here:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org




.

 

[SteveL]

Thanks Michael, I was not looking to install the Knoppix
onto my system just create a generic recovery CD in order
to recover files from an HD and be able to write the files
to a CD via a burner.

Thanks again

 

[SteveL]

No worries mate, Just an FYI I have no idea what you are
talking about with your reply post under Jone Dow's remark.

LOL, must be either you are very inteligent and it just
went over my head or 3:00 am is way past your bed time LOL.

Thanks anyway for your responces.

 

[Harry Ohrn]

here you go http://www.knoppix.net/docs/

Knoppix is an excellent tool. I keep it handy for emergencies. If you have
both a CD-Rom device and a CD Burner (separate drives) you can boot and run
Knoppix from the CD-Rom then burn files off your NTFS or FAT partitions to
CD using the Knoppix built in burning program.

 

[Al Smith]

I have read several posts about this utility disk to be

used in case you are unable to read your hard drive and
retrieve your data.

I am not very familiar with Linux, but can Linux read NTFS
and or Fat file systems? I am assuming that it can.

Does anyone have a link where I can educate myself on this
issue? And a link to a Linux forun like this one? I had
downloaded the Full Red Hat 9 cd's and had questions in
regards to the installation.

Thanks to all...

There's a version of Linux you can download called Damn Small
Linux. It is only a 50 meg download, but you write the ISO to a CD
and make it a bootable CD, and it will install itself in RAM
memory when the computer is booted with the DSL disk in the CD
drive. I did this around a year a go, when I was using Windows98
as my operating system, and it had no trouble loading and giving
me access to my drives. I don't know for sure that it will work
with XP, but I'd be surprised if it didn't. The advantage is that
it is only a 50 meg download, as opposed to a 750 meg download for
Knoppix.

 

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Steve, this is from Lockergnome (forgot which issue):

Backup with Knoppix

So what is the solution? (Trumpet sounds) Behold, your Knoppix CD! Take out your bootable Knoppix CD and place it in the CD-ROM. Now restart your computer and get into the BIOS. Double check that the appropriate CD drive is set to boot from your Knoppix CD. Exit the BIOS and let it boot into Knoppix. After Knoppix has finished detecting all of the devices and it displays the desktop, you are then ready to get started.

In the "quick launch" toolbar you will see what is called the "Konsole" icon. (Tip: If you hover your cursor over this icon, it will display as Konsole.) Click on this and it will give you Linux's version of a command line. (Tip: As with Windows NT platforms, you need to be logged in as a user with administrative privileges to perform certain tasks. In Linux, this is referred to as ROOT.) Okay, so we have the Konsole window open. You will notice that you're showing up as a Knoppix user. You need to type "SU root" without the quotes so that you can gain administrative privileges. After this, minimize the shell to get it out of your way for a moment. Now you are in a position to browse into the hard drive that has an icon already displayed on the desktop. Locate the folder(s) that you wish to back up. Now get back to the shell that you had minimized and type "k3b" without the quotes.

This activates a a CD burning program called k3b which is included with Knoppix Linux. With the program open, click file, new project, new data project. All right, still with me? Okay, drag the folder(s) that you wish to back up into the current projects area of the program. After that, goto project, then select burn. A new window opens up and you are almost ready to start the CD burning process.

In the new window, you need to make sure that the burn speed is set correctly for the CDR that you are using. (Tip: If you are using a CDRW, go to the tab marked "Settings" and make sure that "Start multi-session" is selected.) All right, just click the "write" button and the CD burning will now commence.

Once the CD has been written, close all of the windows. Click the big "K" in the lower left corner and log off. After this, just follow the prompts. Now grab that bottle of Mountain Dew that you brought with you, tilt your head back and let it pour! You successfully backed up the client's data without being bound to using Windows. Pat yourself on the back, you did great!

I think a Tech Specialist issue.


--
Just my 2¢ worth,
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| Thanks Michael, I was not looking to install the Knoppix
| onto my system just create a generic recovery CD in order
| to recover files from an HD and be able to write the files
| to a CD via a burner.
|
| Thanks again

 

[Steve N.]

wow, are you asking the wrong question in the wrong group.

You're incorrect. This is just as on topic as any question about using
any other 3rd party tool to backup files from a Windows XP installation.

Let the flaming begin.

Your the only one so far.

Steve

 

[Paul Smith]

No worries mate, Just an FYI I have no idea what you are
talking about with your reply post under Jone Dow's remark.

Funny thing is, neither do I.

LOL, must be either you are very inteligent and it just
went over my head or 3:00 am is way past your bed time LOL.

The last one, it is way past it, 16 hours later and I've still not actually
had any sleep :-/ not the best mental health practice that's for sure!

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
http://windows.dasmirnov.net/ Windows XP Resource Site.

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[Harry Ohrn]

It works great if you have a CD-Rom and a CD or DVD Burner. You need one to
run Knoppix on and the other to Burn to.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Steve, this is from Lockergnome (forgot which issue):

Backup with Knoppix

So what is the solution? (Trumpet sounds) Behold, your Knoppix CD! Take out
your bootable Knoppix CD and place it in the CD-ROM. Now restart your
computer and get into the BIOS. Double check that the appropriate CD drive
is set to boot from your Knoppix CD. Exit the BIOS and let it boot into
Knoppix. After Knoppix has finished detecting all of the devices and it
displays the desktop, you are then ready to get started.

In the "quick launch" toolbar you will see what is called the "Konsole"
icon. (Tip: If you hover your cursor over this icon, it will display as
Konsole.) Click on this and it will give you Linux's version of a command
line. (Tip: As with Windows NT platforms, you need to be logged in as a user
with administrative privileges to perform certain tasks. In Linux, this is
referred to as ROOT.) Okay, so we have the Konsole window open. You will
notice that you're showing up as a Knoppix user. You need to type "SU root"
without the quotes so that you can gain administrative privileges. After
this, minimize the shell to get it out of your way for a moment. Now you are
in a position to browse into the hard drive that has an icon already
displayed on the desktop. Locate the folder(s) that you wish to back up. Now
get back to the shell that you had minimized and type "k3b" without the
quotes.

This activates a a CD burning program called k3b which is included with
Knoppix Linux. With the program open, click file, new project, new data
project. All right, still with me? Okay, drag the folder(s) that you wish to
back up into the current projects area of the program. After that, goto
project, then select burn. A new window opens up and you are almost ready to
start the CD burning process.

In the new window, you need to make sure that the burn speed is set
correctly for the CDR that you are using. (Tip: If you are using a CDRW, go
to the tab marked "Settings" and make sure that "Start multi-session" is
selected.) All right, just click the "write" button and the CD burning will
now commence.

Once the CD has been written, close all of the windows. Click the big "K" in
the lower left corner and log off. After this, just follow the prompts. Now
grab that bottle of Mountain Dew that you brought with you, tilt your head
back and let it pour! You successfully backed up the client's data without
being bound to using Windows. Pat yourself on the back, you did great!

I think a Tech Specialist issue.


--
Just my 2¢ worth,
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| Thanks Michael, I was not looking to install the Knoppix
| onto my system just create a generic recovery CD in order
| to recover files from an HD and be able to write the files
| to a CD via a burner.
|
| Thanks again