License question

[gls858]

I bought a computer from a local dealer along with a copy of XP Pro.
I think the term is a retail OEM. I later purchased a full retail
upgrade of Vista Ultimate and upgraded the XP. My question is if I
format the drive on my old PC and load my XP Pro back on it, can I then
load the Vista Ultimate upgrade on a new computer purchased with an XP
Pro OS (new license) without violating the EULA.

gls858

 

[Don Schmidt]

This sounds a bit like, "Don't ask; don't tell."

Or, would an individual violate the traffic laws if s/he did 61 in a 60
zone?

How pure do you want to be?

One way to completely be in accordance with the most strict interpretation
of the EULA would be purchase a new computer (you've done that) and use it
for parts. Next replace the parts in the old computer that came with the
OEM disc sub unit by sub unit a day at a time. Over several days you would
have a new computer with the original OEM copy of Windows XP.

My general ethics are, one copy of Windows per computer.

Now I'll retreat to a safe haven and attempt to survive the onslaught of
"shame, shame" messages.

 

[Juan Perez]

Hi:

As long as you use your license of Windows in one PC and only in one PC at
the time, your are fine.

 

[Nepatsfan]

I bought a computer from a local dealer along with a copy of XP Pro.
I think the term is a retail OEM. I later purchased a full retail upgrade of
Vista Ultimate and upgraded the XP. My question is if I
format the drive on my old PC and load my XP Pro back on it, can I then load
the Vista Ultimate upgrade on a new computer purchased with an XP Pro OS (new
license) without violating the EULA.

gls858

Since the Vista Ultimate upgrade is a retail license, you can move it to a new
computer running XP Pro as long as it's not still installed on your old
computer.

Note: There's no such thing as a "retail OEM". An OEM and a Retail copy of all
versions of Windows involve two very different types of licenses.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

 

[gls858]

Since the Vista Ultimate upgrade is a retail license, you can move it to a new
computer running XP Pro as long as it's not still installed on your old
computer.

Note: There's no such thing as a "retail OEM". An OEM and a Retail copy of all
versions of Windows involve two very different types of licenses.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

Thanks to everyone for the info. Nepatsfan, I wasn't sure what to call
it but I thought there was a difference between the the OEM that I
bought at the local place and the places like Dell and such. Obviously
that's not the case. Microsoft's licensing scheme is confusing at best

gls858

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I bought a computer from a local dealer along with a copy of XP Pro.
I think the term is a retail OEM.

No, there's no such term. If's an OEM version, but a generic one,
rather than one customized for a particular OEM.

I later purchased a full retail
upgrade of Vista Ultimate and upgraded the XP. My question is if I
format the drive on my old PC and load my XP Pro back on it, can I then
load the Vista Ultimate upgrade on a new computer purchased with an XP
Pro OS (new license) without violating the EULA.

Yes. You can put the OEM version back on the ordinal computer (and
*only* the original computer). But the retail version can be moved to
any computer, as you choose.

 

[Gordon]

I bought a computer from a local dealer along with a copy of XP Pro.
I think the term is a retail OEM. I later purchased a full retail upgrade
of Vista Ultimate and upgraded the XP. My question is if I
format the drive on my old PC and load my XP Pro back on it, can I then
load the Vista Ultimate upgrade on a new computer purchased with an XP Pro
OS (new license) without violating the EULA.

gls858

No because the licence for your XP becomes subsumed into the Vista Licence
when you upgrade....

 

[Gordon]

Yes. You can put the OEM version back on the ordinal computer (and
*only* the original computer). But the retail version can be moved to
any computer, as you choose.

But not if he's used the OEM XP as qualifying product the Vista Upgrade as I
understood that that is what he wants to do?

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

But not if he's used the OEM XP as qualifying product the Vista Upgrade as I
understood that that is what he wants to do?

Right. He would need to use a different qualifying product to reuse
his upgrade elsewhere, if he reused the OEM copy.

 

[gls858]

But not if he's used the OEM XP as qualifying product the Vista Upgrade as I
understood that that is what he wants to do?

Gordon,
What I'm wanting to do is format my old machine, which originally came
with XP Pro and was upgraded to Vista Ultimate, reload the OEM copy that
I bought with the machine, returning it to it's original configuration.
Then buy a new PC with XP Pro and load the Vista Ultimate upgrade on it.
Not a big savings but it would save me about $60 which is enough for a
good bottle of scotch

gls858

 

[Gordon]

Gordon,
What I'm wanting to do is format my old machine, which originally came
with XP Pro and was upgraded to Vista Ultimate, reload the OEM copy that
I bought with the machine, returning it to it's original configuration.
Then buy a new PC with XP Pro and load the Vista Ultimate upgrade on it.
Not a big savings but it would save me about $60 which is enough for a
good bottle of scotch

gls858

Oh that's OK then.....£30 for Scotch? that's a pretty good bottle!

 

[gls858]

Oh that's OK then.....£30 for Scotch? that's a pretty good bottle!

Life's too short to drink cheap scotch or smoke cheap cigars LOL
This is one of my favorites:

http://www.thebalvenie.com/range/index.html

I'm sure I could find it cheaper but around here it runs about $45
a bottle plus tax. That leaves me enough for a nice Hemingway Signature
by Fuentes. Makes for a nice afternoon.

gls858

 

[Gordon]

Life's too short to drink cheap scotch or smoke cheap cigars LOL
This is one of my favorites:

http://www.thebalvenie.com/range/index.html

I'm sure I could find it cheaper but around here it runs about $45
a bottle plus tax. That leaves me enough for a nice Hemingway Signature by
Fuentes. Makes for a nice afternoon.

You don't like Islay malts then?

 

[gls858]

You don't like Islay malts then?

A little too peaty for me, but if that's the only thing available I
won't turn it down I like them all just prefer some over others.

gls858

 

[Gordon]

A little too peaty for me, but if that's the only thing available I won't
turn it down I like them all just prefer some over others.

With Laguvulin you get peat AND seaweed....yummy!

 

[Daave]

I thought there was a difference between the the OEM that I
bought at the local place and the places like Dell and such.

The latter is considered a branded OEM. It's also possible to purchase a
generic OEM disk. What does yours say on it? If this is a PC your local
dealer built, I'll bet it's a generic OEM.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

With Laguvulin you get peat AND seaweed....yummy!

I'll take the Lagavulin, but only if there's no Laphroig--my personal
favorite.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I bought a computer from a local dealer along with a copy of XP Pro.
I think the term is a retail OEM.

No, "retail OEM" is a contradiction in terms. There's no such thing.
Either you have a transferable retail license, or you have a
non-transferable OEM license. (None of which really has any bearing on
your question, btw.)

I later purchased a full retail
upgrade of Vista Ultimate and upgraded the XP. My question is if I
format the drive on my old PC and load my XP Pro back on it,....

..... thereby removing the Vista Upgrade,....

can I then
load the Vista Ultimate upgrade on a new computer purchased with an XP
Pro OS (new license) without violating the EULA.

Yes, retail Upgrade Vista license (again, "full ... upgrade" is a
contradiction in terms, but not really important, in this case) is
transferable to another computer, provided there's a qualifying earlier
OS already present.



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[Bruce Chambers]

This sounds a bit like, "Don't ask; don't tell."

Or, would an individual violate the traffic laws if s/he did 61 in a 60
zone?

How pure do you want to be?

One way to completely be in accordance with the most strict interpretation
of the EULA would be purchase a new computer (you've done that) and use it
for parts. Next replace the parts in the old computer that came with the
OEM disc sub unit by sub unit a day at a time. Over several days you would
have a new computer with the original OEM copy of Windows XP.

My general ethics are, one copy of Windows per computer.

Now I'll retreat to a safe haven and attempt to survive the onslaught of
"shame, shame" messages.

Not a "shame, shame" message, but I don't see the point of your
comments. What the OP proposes is perfectly within compliance with the
EULAs involved. The convoluted incremental hardware upgrades your
proposing are both unnecessary and counter-productive to the OP's stated
goals.


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killed a great many philosophers.
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[Bruce Chambers]

No because the licence for your XP becomes subsumed into the Vista Licence
when you upgrade....

How can two distinct WinXP licenses, installed on two separate
computers, both be simultaneously subsumed by a single upgrade license?


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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

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killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot