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forsong
Do I need to buy one more if I install same winxp on both of two hard disks
for dual booting?
for dual booting?
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nrford
If it were up to MS, you would have to buy a license
for each day of the week/year. Logically, if you are
the sole user, you should not have to have two licenses
to use WinXP on one machine.
for each day of the week/year. Logically, if you are
the sole user, you should not have to have two licenses
to use WinXP on one machine.
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
Hi,
According to the EULA you do, but there is nothing technically that will
prevent you from installing and activating twice on the same hardware.
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
According to the EULA you do, but there is nothing technically that will
prevent you from installing and activating twice on the same hardware.
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
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forsong
Thanks for your answer
Can I ask more?
Could you let me know exactly where i can find that EULA that describes
this?
Also, in EULA, what exact part prevents us from doing this?
Hi,
According to the EULA you do, but there is nothing technically that will
prevent you from installing and activating twice on the same hardware.
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
Can I ask more?
Could you let me know exactly where i can find that EULA that describes
this?
Also, in EULA, what exact part prevents us from doing this?
Hi,
According to the EULA you do, but there is nothing technically that will
prevent you from installing and activating twice on the same hardware.
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
R
Ron Martell
forsong said:
The EULA is displayed when you first install Windows XP. A copy of
the information is saved in the file \Windows\System32\EULA.TXT
Here is an excerpt from the EULA.TXT on my Windows XP Pro system"
"Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Product on a single
computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
("Workstation Computer")."
That seems pretty clear and precise.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
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Alex Nichol
Ron said:
Except it isn't really. One 'copy' could refer to the individual CD.
And 'install' is an operation resulting in its presence. IMHO this does
not cover installing (once) and then cloning to a second partition. The
crucial point being that it is not possible to run them simultaneously -
not like installing on multiple machines. The EULA is badly written. I
have commented to MS at top level, and got thanks - not denial
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Woody
<The EULA is badly written. I
have commented to MS at top level, and got thanks - not denial
so they are actually going to address this issue ?
have commented to MS at top level, and got thanks - not denial
so they are actually going to address this issue ?
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forsong
Thanks for your post.
But, I found the following article on MS web site;
https://partner.microsoft.com/download/global/40013407
This file in general talks about the virtual machine, which can run two
instances of windows simultaneously.
What's your opinion on this?
__________________________
Q & A
Q. If I acquired my Windows® desktop operating system license from an
original equipment manufacturer (OEM) or through the retail full packaged
product (FPP) channel, do I have the rights to install two instances of
Windows® on one PC from one license?
A. No, according to the use terms of the OEM and FPP Windows® desktop
operating system licenses, you only have the rights to install one instance
of Windows® on one PC from one license. It is only for Windows® desktop
operating system Upgrade licenses, Upgrade & Software Assurance licenses,
and Software Assurance licenses acquired through Microsoft's Volume
Licensing channels that you acquire rights, under one license, to install
two instances of Windows® on one PC.
_________________________________
Except it isn't really. One 'copy' could refer to the individual CD.
And 'install' is an operation resulting in its presence. IMHO this does
not cover installing (once) and then cloning to a second partition. The
crucial point being that it is not possible to run them simultaneously -
not like installing on multiple machines. The EULA is badly written. I
have commented to MS at top level, and got thanks - not denial
But, I found the following article on MS web site;
https://partner.microsoft.com/download/global/40013407
This file in general talks about the virtual machine, which can run two
instances of windows simultaneously.
What's your opinion on this?
__________________________
Q & A
Q. If I acquired my Windows® desktop operating system license from an
original equipment manufacturer (OEM) or through the retail full packaged
product (FPP) channel, do I have the rights to install two instances of
Windows® on one PC from one license?
A. No, according to the use terms of the OEM and FPP Windows® desktop
operating system licenses, you only have the rights to install one instance
of Windows® on one PC from one license. It is only for Windows® desktop
operating system Upgrade licenses, Upgrade & Software Assurance licenses,
and Software Assurance licenses acquired through Microsoft's Volume
Licensing channels that you acquire rights, under one license, to install
two instances of Windows® on one PC.
_________________________________
Ron said:
Except it isn't really. One 'copy' could refer to the individual CD.
And 'install' is an operation resulting in its presence. IMHO this does
not cover installing (once) and then cloning to a second partition. The
crucial point being that it is not possible to run them simultaneously -
not like installing on multiple machines. The EULA is badly written. I
have commented to MS at top level, and got thanks - not denial
A
Alex Nichol
forsong said:
That will be talking about Virtual PC, a program that allows a second OS
to run alongside and switch between the two. The licensing for that is
a different matter, and as things stand, doubtful without a separate one
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forsong
In conclusion, do you think as below ?
Two win xp on one pc, one on Virtual PC
→ two can run simultaneously → illegal
Two win xp on one pc, each on different two HDD, for dual booting
→ two can't run simultaneously → legal
Could you tell me if you're sure about it..?
That will be talking about Virtual PC, a program that allows a second OS
to run alongside and switch between the two. The licensing for that is
a different matter, and as things stand, doubtful without a separate one
Two win xp on one pc, one on Virtual PC
→ two can run simultaneously → illegal
Two win xp on one pc, each on different two HDD, for dual booting
→ two can't run simultaneously → legal
Could you tell me if you're sure about it..?
forsong said:
That will be talking about Virtual PC, a program that allows a second OS
to run alongside and switch between the two. The licensing for that is
a different matter, and as things stand, doubtful without a separate one
T
Timothy Daniels
"forsong" quizzed:
I think you got the "illegal" and "legal" reversed, but it's really
a moot point because what an MVP opines has no legal
authority and it would toe the Microsoft position, it couldn't be
decided without a court case and probably an appeal,
and Microsoft ain't gonna catch you, anyway. So the reply
would be meaningless. But what you bring up is interesting...
*TimDaniels*
I think you got the "illegal" and "legal" reversed, but it's really
a moot point because what an MVP opines has no legal
authority and it would toe the Microsoft position, it couldn't be
decided without a court case and probably an appeal,
and Microsoft ain't gonna catch you, anyway. So the reply
would be meaningless. But what you bring up is interesting...
*TimDaniels*
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forsong
One thing i'm sure of is that installing oem version's two win xp on one pc
by using Virtual PC is illegal. This fact is on the document from MS, that i
put the URL of above.
The quote from this this document didn't mention whether this installation
is done by Virtual PC or on two HDD each, or partition. Because the
documents as a whole talks about the licencing on Virtual PC, I just can
restrict the range of legal only for Virtual PC.
So, the other that i'm not still sure of is;-
[OEM Win XP on Two HDD each, for dual booting]
It's not bad that what i brought up was interesting for someone.
"forsong" quizzed:
I think you got the "illegal" and "legal" reversed, but it's really
a moot point because what an MVP opines has no legal
authority and it would toe the Microsoft position, it couldn't be
decided without a court case and probably an appeal,
and Microsoft ain't gonna catch you, anyway. So the reply
would be meaningless. But what you bring up is interesting...
*TimDaniels*
by using Virtual PC is illegal. This fact is on the document from MS, that i
put the URL of above.
The quote from this this document didn't mention whether this installation
is done by Virtual PC or on two HDD each, or partition. Because the
documents as a whole talks about the licencing on Virtual PC, I just can
restrict the range of legal only for Virtual PC.
So, the other that i'm not still sure of is;-
[OEM Win XP on Two HDD each, for dual booting]
It's not bad that what i brought up was interesting for someone.
"forsong" quizzed:
I think you got the "illegal" and "legal" reversed, but it's really
a moot point because what an MVP opines has no legal
authority and it would toe the Microsoft position, it couldn't be
decided without a court case and probably an appeal,
and Microsoft ain't gonna catch you, anyway. So the reply
would be meaningless. But what you bring up is interesting...
*TimDaniels*
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
Both are outside the scope of what is allowed in the EULA.
Not to mention that the Virtual PC emulates a different hardware set, and
activation will be an issue.
Not "legal" according to the EULA, but impossible to enforce as you will
activating on the same hardware twice - something that is allowed.
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
Not to mention that the Virtual PC emulates a different hardware set, and
activation will be an issue.
Not "legal" according to the EULA, but impossible to enforce as you will
activating on the same hardware twice - something that is allowed.
--
Best of Luck,
Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org