Large hard drive support

[Zermut]

Yes, Promise is a terrible controller. Past problems with data corruption,
interrupt sharing. Current cards are not plug and play so you cannot use more
than one in a system.

Promise is not a terrible controller, you dumb ****. I use one myself
in another computer because because it doesn't have IDE ports built
into the motherboard as the computer is all SCSI.

I sing praises for Promise as they are one of the BEST! Get your facts
straight before spewing shit out of your piehole, otherwise STFU.

HAND.

Zermut

 

[Eric Gisin]

Promise is not a terrible controller, you dumb ****. I use one myself
in another computer because because it doesn't have IDE ports built
into the motherboard as the computer is all SCSI.

I sing praises for Promise as they are one of the BEST! Get your facts
straight before spewing shit out of your piehole, otherwise STFU.

That last person to promote Promise as a great controller was Ron Reaugh, who
would tell people there was nothing wrong with them even though they caused
serious data corruption. He often told AMD owners to use Intel chipsets to fix
the problem.

He later had on online psychotic episode over IBM 75GXPs that were just as
reliable. You are in good company.

 

[Ben Myers]

Eric,

YOU offend people's sensibilities with your foul mouth and name calling. The hp
newsgroup was polite and civil until you came along. People often disagree
here, but with good sense and tact, both of which are missing from your
postings. Clean it up or go away or be branded a stinking troll... Ben Myers

 

[Eric Gisin]

Benny, take you meds.

You are an idiot because you told someone to buy a new system. Let me put this
another way, you are moron. Another idiot said to buy Promise, he is a moron
too.

This is NOT the HP newsgroup. The world is not full of clueless polite people.
If you can't stand criticism, talk to your therapist, that's what she's paid
for.

Eric,

YOU offend people's sensibilities with your foul mouth and name calling. The hp
newsgroup was polite and civil until you came along. People often disagree
here, but with good sense and tact, both of which are missing from your
postings. Clean it up or go away or be branded a stinking troll... Ben Myers

 

[Rod Speed]

Eric,

YOU offend people's sensibilities with your foul mouth and name calling.
The hp newsgroup was polite and civil until you came along. People often
disagree here, but with good sense and tact, both of which are missing from your
postings. Clean it up or go away or be branded a stinking troll... Ben Myers

Bet that'll make him curl up and die for sure.

 

[Eric Gisin]

Myers

Bet that'll make him curl up and die for sure.

Come on, I haven't been called a troll for months. Being branded a stinking
troll would be ecstacy. A full time job.

 

[Rod Speed]

Come on, I haven't been called a troll for months.

You dont end up that pissed that often either.

Being branded a stinking troll
would be ecstacy. A full time job.

Whatever turns you on, child.

 

[Ben Myers]

The original message was posted to comp.sys.hp.hardware,
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage, comp.sys.intel, so IT IS the HP newsgroup. So
are most of the responses. Pay attention to the information presented by your
news reader.

The rest of your screed is, well..., a screed... Ben Myers

Benny, take you meds.

You are an idiot because you told someone to buy a new system. Let me put this
another way, you are moron. Another idiot said to buy Promise, he is a moron
too.

This is NOT the HP newsgroup. The world is not full of clueless polite people.
If you can't stand criticism, talk to your therapist, that's what she's paid
for.

 

[Zermut]

Benny, take you meds.

You are an idiot because you told someone to buy a new system. Let me put this
another way, you are moron. Another idiot said to buy Promise, he is a moron
too.

What is wrong with you, screwball? Not nice to call Ben names. You
forgot that he runs his own computer consulting business and can
suggest computer users to get a Promise controller if they don't want
to upgrade their computer.

This is NOT the HP newsgroup. The world is not full of clueless polite people.
If you can't stand criticism, talk to your therapist, that's what she's paid
for.

This is an HP newsgroup. You need to get your bloody ass head checked.
You are the one who needs to take your meds. Well, ****bag, you are
starting sound alot more like Richard Bullis aka " Richard The St00pid
" due to your stupid braindead comments. Why dont you just take a
flying **** at a rolling donut, otherwise, screw off.

Zermut

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

Come on, I haven't been called a troll for months.

Ah, that must be it. You were just trolling for recognition.

 

[Eric Gisin]

Believe it or not moron, this is the comp*storage group. And if we see stupid
advice, we will criticize it.

It is now obvious why Benny told him to get a new system, that it how he rips
off his customers.

It appears stupid advice it rampant in the HP group. My are you defending it?

 

[chrisv]

This is an HP newsgroup. You need to get your bloody ass head checked.
You are the one who needs to take your meds. Well, ****bag, you are
starting sound alot more like Richard Bullis aka " Richard The St00pid
" due to your stupid braindead comments. Why dont you just take a
flying **** at a rolling donut, otherwise, screw off.

Zermut

Well you "HP newsgroup" guys are a bunch of real sweethearts, aren't
you?

 

[Mark M]

Yes, Promise is a terrible controller. Past problems with data
corruption, interrupt sharing. Current cards are not plug and
play so you cannot use more than one in a system.

Hi Eric, I am currently looking to get a controller card to extend
the number of parallel ATA sockets on my system from 2 to 4.

I was considering a Promise card even if they cost more because
they were a quality vendor but your comments about them make me
pause.

What alternatives to Promise do you (or others here) favor?
Adaptec Highpoint?

Thanks for any info.

 

[Eric Gisin]

SiI 3112 based cards are good and even cheaper.

Hi Eric, I am currently looking to get a controller card to extend
the number of parallel ATA sockets on my system from 2 to 4.

I was considering a Promise card even if they cost more because
they were a quality vendor but your comments about them make me
pause.

What alternatives to Promise do you (or others here) favor?
Adaptec Highpoint?

 

[Guest]

Hi Eric, I am currently looking to get a controller card to extend
the number of parallel ATA sockets on my system from 2 to 4.

I was considering a Promise card even if they cost more because
they were a quality vendor but your comments about them make me
pause.

What alternatives to Promise do you (or others here) favor?
Adaptec Highpoint?

Thanks for any info.

Well I don't hesitate in recommending Promise Cards. I've been running
these cards for ages.

At work we have 3 SCSI servers with Promise Ultra 100s in them running
some IDE drives for archiving purposes with no trouble for about 3
years. At home I have an old K6/2 machine running Linux with an Ultra
66 for about 4 years and an Athlon based W2K server running an Ultra
133 for a year with absolutely no problems at all ever.

Also when my server mobo went caput the Promise card allowed me to
boot up my W2K HD with a new mobo with no trouble at all as the IDE
controller hadn't changed. None of the usual mess with new mobos and
different IDE controllers with an existing OS installation.

Spam.

 

[Mark M]

SiI 3112 based cards are good and even cheaper.

Eric, thanks for the info.

http://www.siimage.com/products/storage.asp#semic

I saw that this particular chip is for SATA but my need is to
attach extra PATA drives.

 

[J. Clarke]

Eric, thanks for the info.

http://www.siimage.com/products/storage.asp#semic

I saw that this particular chip is for SATA but my need is to
attach extra PATA drives.

Watch out for Silicon Image if you're using an nforce2 motherboard. I've
seen reports of problems and may be encountering one myself--when I finish
testing I intend to post the results.


I haven't seen any widespread reports of data corruption with Promise
products. Googling I find that most of the hits that actually associated
disk corruption with Promise controllers were discussing the changes that
need to be made to the Linux kernel to fix the bug in the kernel that was
causing the corruption. I believe I found 2 accounts of data corruption
with Promise controllers on any OS but Linux--one of those concluded that
he had a broken controller, while the other didn't say he had the problem
himself and when pressed couldn't provide a link to anybody else who had.

But you can google this yourself.

Meanwhile, _everything_ has problems with interrupt sharing--the Promise
boards are not unique in that regard--you'll see the fanboys tell you how
interrupts are designed to be shared, but the fact is that sharable
interrupts were a kluge developed around the time that EISA came into
existence whose only purpose was to provide a clumsy workaround for the
paucity of interrupts on the original PC and PC/AT, and interrupt sharing
has never been completely debugged, which is why, finally, some
motherboards are coming out that have more than 15 interrupts--if sharing
worked so all-fired well you have to ask yourself why Intel and Microsoft
devoted time and effort to developing the Advanced Programmable Interrupt
Controller (APIC) spec and why nvidia and the rest have been so quick to
implement it.

If someone tells you that he's sharing interrupts between two devices that
generate a high volume of traffic on an ongoing basis and he hasn't had
problems, append to his statement a "yet".

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

Watch out for Silicon Image if you're using an nforce2 motherboard. I've
seen reports of problems and may be encountering one myself--when I finish
testing I intend to post the results.


I haven't seen any widespread reports of data corruption with Promise
products. Googling I find that most of the hits that actually associated
disk corruption with Promise controllers were discussing the changes that
need to be made to the Linux kernel to fix the bug in the kernel that was
causing the corruption. I believe I found 2 accounts of data corruption
with Promise controllers on any OS but Linux--one of those concluded that
he had a broken controller, while the other didn't say he had the problem
himself and when pressed couldn't provide a link to anybody else who had.

But you can google this yourself.

Meanwhile, _everything_ has problems with interrupt sharing--the Promise
boards are not unique in that regard--you'll see the fanboys tell you how
interrupts are designed to be shared, but the fact is that sharable
interrupts were a kluge developed around the time that EISA came into
existence whose only purpose was to provide a clumsy workaround for the
paucity of interrupts on the original PC and PC/AT, and interrupt sharing
has never been completely debugged, which is why, finally, some
motherboards are coming out that have more than 15 interrupts--if sharing
worked so all-fired well you have to ask yourself why Intel and Microsoft
devoted time and effort to developing the Advanced Programmable Interrupt
Controller (APIC) spec and why nvidia and the rest have been so quick to
implement it.

If someone tells you that he's sharing interrupts between two devices that
generate a high volume of traffic on an ongoing basis and he hasn't had
problems, append to his statement a "yet".

Obviously you don't know interrupt sharing very well, but then that is to be
expected from someone who only is educated by the "school of hard knocks".