Konica Milolta 2430DL Toner Questions


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loksmith

Hi,
I have a KM 2430DL Laser printer and would like to know a little
about the black toner cartridge. The printer has a "starter" cartridge
in it and the Status querry says it now has 22% left. My questions:

a.) When I buy toner, the seller says it has 4500 sheet capacity.
Since the "starter" cartridge has a 1500 sheet capacity is the Toner
Cartridge the exact same one with only less toner in it and I can just
put the 4500 sheet amount into it?

b) If I add toner to the cartridge before I get a "LOW' toner warning
will the chip just keep humming along or will I still get a TONER LOW
or TONER OUT even though I added toner ?

Thank you................... Ed
 
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Barry Watzman

Page life for a toner cartridge is only an estimate, it depends on what
you print. Industry practice is to state expected page life based on 5%
coverage of the page by toner (this is right to even high for TEXT pages).

Presumably, the toner cartridges are the same except for the number of
grams of toner in the cartridges.

Different printers work differently. Some actually sense the toner
level and only give you a low warning if you are really low, some count
pages, and some actually count number of pixels actually printed on the
pages printed. I'm not that familiar with your model. Some models have
chips in the toner cartridge that prevents refilling (e.g. you refill
the toner cartridge, fine, but the chip still thinks it's empty and the
printer won't continue to work with it). Others you can refill for an
eternity.
 
T

Tony

Hi,
I have a KM 2430DL Laser printer and would like to know a little
about the black toner cartridge. The printer has a "starter" cartridge
in it and the Status querry says it now has 22% left. My questions:

a.) When I buy toner, the seller says it has 4500 sheet capacity.
Since the "starter" cartridge has a 1500 sheet capacity is the Toner
Cartridge the exact same one with only less toner in it and I can just
put the 4500 sheet amount into it?

b) If I add toner to the cartridge before I get a "LOW' toner warning
will the chip just keep humming along or will I still get a TONER LOW
or TONER OUT even though I added toner ?

Thank you................... Ed

Ed
It is extremely unlikely that a manufacturer will put a chip on a cartridge
unless the chip measures toner usage. So the fact that there is a chip involved
means that you probably cannot add toner to the cartridge without replacing the
chip. Chips like this cannot be reset.
If you search on the internet you may find a chip and toner supplier, often
they provide refilling instructions.
Toner cartridges can be refilled only a limited number of times. The waste
toner hopper has to be emptied every one or two refills and there are parts of
the cartridge that wear out. The drum usually lasts one refill only, other
parts may only last 2-4 refills.
I don't know whether the starter cartridges will hold a full charge but most of
them do.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging
 
J

Jerry1111

Tony said:
It is extremely unlikely that a manufacturer will put a chip on a cartridge
unless the chip measures toner usage. So the fact that there is a chip involved
means that you probably cannot add toner to the cartridge without replacing the
chip. Chips like this cannot be reset.

Different stories with different brands. F.E. Oki is selling printers
with starter toners. You can't fill those (well, I suspect you can, but
it'll just not work). You have to buy at least one set of proper toners
- after that you can refill as much as you like (emptying the waste
toner, but drums are separate).
 
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Tony

Jerry1111 said:
Different stories with different brands. F.E. Oki is selling printers
with starter toners. You can't fill those (well, I suspect you can, but
it'll just not work). You have to buy at least one set of proper toners
- after that you can refill as much as you like (emptying the waste
toner, but drums are separate).

That's true but the OKI toner cartridges don't have chips. Nor do their drum
units, they use 1/16 amp fuses for the most part.
It is the presence of a chip that is the issue here.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging
 

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