Kazaa Wipe Out

[ms]

hello, used the antispyware to remove a number of threats from an XP Home
edition machine. didn't realize right away that it was going to remove the
Kazaa, and the Shared Folder.... it got somewhere through the process, and I
stopped it.. after seeing that it had started to "remove" MP3 files. anyway,
now I have a bunch of "renamed" MP3 files, in the Quarantine Folder. The
name of each file is a random name, such as 28DE98UH9-8978-JKJD-KKJS-JEUJD .
If you open the file in notepad, you can still see the 'previous' name of
the file, so they can be identified. I was wondering if anyone new a trick
to get these renamed back to the original name, without viewing each file,
(since there are so many). Kazaa does not come up in the list of
"quaratined" items that can be restored, because the antispyware software
was set to "remove" it. just a question, and a bit of help perhaps, for
anyone who this has happened to. At least I was able to stop it before they
were permanently deleted..

 

[Guest]

Sometimes pay off read the forums of the programs to be
used.

Say bye bye to the files.

Read other links for information.

 

[Engel]

Use Limewire instead, spyware free.

 

[D@annyBoy]

too bad you didn't read the manual before installing MSAS

ms wrote in news:[email protected]

 

[Bill Sanderson]

That's a pretty interesting finding. As I understand it, the files are
simply renamed--i.e. I am told that they can be played.

It seems to me that this is a great opportunity for somebody with some
coding skills to write an app to grab the name out of the file and rename
it--I wish I had some current skills in that line, but I don't.

 

[Richard Urban]

So all of your illegally downloaded songs got wiped out due to YOUR
inattention to detail! I can't say I'm sorry for you.

Reminds me of the fellow who bought his computer to me because HE lost about
4800 illegal songs. I told him I could get them back (I really could as his
hard drive had just lost it's partition tables) for .50 per song.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Bill Sanderson]

I've had a brief conversation with another Microsoft MVP--Mike Maltby, who
works with MP3's far more than I do. He has an idea that may help you out:

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There must be 10s if not 100s of mp3 tag editors most of which include the
ability to rename an mp3 file based on its tags. The biggest problem here
would be where the mp3 doesn't have tags or the tags are incomplete.

MP3Ext, which is the one I use, allows a user to choose the format of the
file name created and to customise this as required. For example for
albums I use "Artist - Album - Track # - Title.mp3" whereas for
compilations I use "Album - Track # - Artist - Title.mp3" and for
soundtracks and the like "Album - Track # - Title.mp3". So, assuming that
a user has decided on the format to be used the procedure might be as
follows.
a) Rename quarantined files blah.blah to blah.mp3
b) Either select Properties for the folder containing the renamed files
or, select a group of files and then select Properties,
c) Open the MP3 Info tab
d) Configure the rename button to use the appropriate format
e) Shift click the rename button and all the files in the folder (or
selected files) will be renamed according to the chosen format. (click
without shift and just the currently selected file will be renamed).

MP3Ext may well be too powerful for the purpose but there are plenty more
simple tag editors that can do the job and bulk rename mp3 files based on
their tags.

Mike M

 

[Andre Da Costa]

Bill, it sounds like ms will be burning the midnight oil trying to recover
those songs. ;-)

 

[plun]

Andre Da Costa explained on 2005-05-12 :

burning the midnight oil

Aha....... http://www.goenglish.com/BurningTheMidnightOil.asp

 

[Bill Sanderson]

That's a great resource--gotta mention it to my wife who teaches English as
a second language to students at a university here.

From your perspective, I'd expect that they'd be burning the midnight oil to
DESTROY the files?

 

[Bill Sanderson]

I don't think Microsoft is likely to offer help with this, although it'd be
interesting to hear whether anyone's ever tried the free PSS help line with
this question.

This'd come under the heading of help with the beta program, which by
definition doesn't exist--i.e. there is no support--i.e. you can't call and
get help with the program or problems caused by it. If you can make a case
that the problem was caused by spyware, or viruses, then you could get
help--and that might be a possible case to make--probably Kazaa wasn't the
only threat found and removed. I don't know what they would say, or
whether they'd really be able to offer any concrete advice that would be
useful.

 

[Guest]

Interesting that you would jump to the conclusion that
his songs are illegally downloaded.
I have a CD collection of 400+ cd's.
When I would leave for my 3 hour ride to work I would
Grab 5 or 6 CD's from my Collection and bring them along
to listen too. The Next Day I would swap to another 5 or
6... this got old pretty fast..
I wanted to be able to have my Entire collection with me.

So I have taken the time to convert each and every song
to MP3 format.

Now My 400+ CD collection fits on only 30 CD's
which I can Carry in one CD case and play on my MP3
compatible player.

I did make use of Kazza and other related tools to do the
conversion.

I also employed the use of Kazza to Download songs that I
could not Extract from some of My CD's because the CD
surface was no longer readable.

So since I already had Purchased the CD with the Song on
it. Did I break the Law by Downloading a Song I already
had the rights to listen to?

So when MSAS found and removed, not only the Kazza
Application, but also all of the MP3's I have.

How is that justifiable?

Fortunatly for me, I still have the MP3's on CD's or at
least most of them.

 

[Richard Urban]

Do you store them in your Kazaa Shared folder. If you do you may lose them
also. There are worms that target that folder.

If the guy didn't have illegal songs (in the Kazaa shared folder) he
wouldn't have lost them when Kazaa was cleaned out. If he was sharing songs
that he had purchased is that any more correct?

I still can't feel sorry for him, any more than I could when one of my
brothers lost about 3000 songs he had.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[plun]

Richard Urban presented the following explanation :

Do you store them in your Kazaa Shared folder. If you do you may lose them
also. There are worms that target that folder.

Well, I believe most worms, they are called w32.X.Y, lives inside OE.s
inbox.................

Maybe MSAS also should remove this inbox
for users ?

Maybe also removing My Documents/My Recieved files ?
A lot of woms also often lives within this folder !

IMHO.

 

[Richard Urban]

There are worms and trojans that target the Kazaa shared folder and will
delete every file with an .exe or .mp3 extension. That is why you shouldn't
store files there. That's how my brother lost his music.

Microsoft AntiSpyware doesn't do anything with Kazaa except give you the
warning that it was detected. It is then up to you if you want to ignore
once, ignore always, quarantine or clean. If you choose clean - everything
is gone. But it is your decision to do so. After one has done this they have
no one to blame but themselves.


--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[plun]

Richard Urban brought next idea :

There are worms and trojans that target the Kazaa shared folder and will
delete every file with an .exe or .mp3 extension. That is why you shouldn't
store files there. That's how my brother lost his music.

Well, I belive antivirus protection take care of this.

Microsoft AntiSpyware doesn't do anything with Kazaa except give you the
warning that it was detected. It is then up to you if you want to ignore
once, ignore always, quarantine or clean. If you choose clean - everything is
gone. But it is your decision to do so. After one has done this they have no
one to blame but themselves.

It is not so easy for a newbie to handle this RIAA trap.

1. If this is a first time scan and this user never have used any anti
spyware
program this user probably detects many spyware.

2. Kazaa is detected as a high threat.

3. This user reads advice to remove this threats and really wants to
get rid of
everything.

4. Decides to remove everything. Really happy user, spyware free PC,
yiiipee

5. To celebrate, this user then wants to play some music, legal of
course.
Starts Winamp with the favorite music list and DAMNED SHIT, my music
is gone........

6. Kazaa ? My Shared folder............. ? SHIT..........

7. How can MS do this to me this user thinks..........
%#%&!/(#)(/%!=#?==!?¤#`¤!¤#?


So legal or not this is a real trap and MS has nothing to do with what
a user
have inside My Shared folder etc.

This only give MSAS bad reputation and the younger generation will
choose
other ways to handle spyware, perhaps also to leave Windows for Linux.

 

[Robert de Vos]

This'd come under the heading of help with the beta program,

Maybe its an idea (for beta2) to add a nagscreen (i hope i write it
correctly) that say`s:

This is a Beta, make backups.