Justin is really nothing more than another zealot

[Adam Albright]

Oh, poor pathetic decrepit old adam. I have been wrong in my thinking
before and when corrected I take that correction whole heartedly.

Give ONE example of you doing that. Post the link here =====>

 

[Adam Albright]

Nope, just you and alias. I guess you're too stupid to figure that out.

I figured you out reading your first post, months back. Honest kid,
you're very easy to figure out. I've dealt with hundreds of people
just like you over the years. You're all alike: Clueless.

 

[Justin]

@sp6iad.superfeed.net:

Leythos, you jump into the thread telling me you ignore his posts as it's
all just drivel, then continue on.

I was going to mention that much earlier on but then figured it to be just
too childish to mention. Figures.

 

[Justin]

You know what you main problem is kid?

No? Well I'll tell ya. You think you know more than everybody else and
you always refuse to listen to anybody else's opinion. EVERYBODY
that's been around the block a few times knows Outlook Express was by
far the absolute worst "newsreader" any you could use, yet you've
apparently gone right on using it regardless. There's a message in
there somewhere, but I'm afraid you're just not smart enough to see
it.

Once again adam is 100% wrong. Want proof? Find posts with Stephan in
them. He's taught me a few things about "various things" that I've never
known before. I love to pick his programming brain as he's leaps and bounds
more experienced then myself in that area. Even though we 80% disagree on
Vista "frames of mind".

How does it feel to be so wrong so often?

As for OE. I would be careful using blanket statements about that.
Regardless of it's feature set. It works and countless people use it. You
assume what people need then attempt to force their hand. When you come
across someone you can't force....well, here we are.

 

[Leythos]

@sp6iad.superfeed.net:

Leythos, you jump into the thread telling me you ignore his posts as
it's all just drivel, then continue on.

I was bored and got sucked in, it happens - and who made you for forum
moderator

 

[Leythos]

You DO NOT have certified drivers. I can’t believe how unwilling you
are to address this issue.

No, the point is that MS provided ME the drivers in the build they
furnished, I didn't replace them, didn't do anything other than install
them. I'm not expected to go out and find drivers when they are already
provided, with a NEW OS, that ships with drivers.

The problem is that you don't seem to understand that if Vista needed
optimized drivers for common hardware, that it would have or should have
shipped with them, or it should not have been released.

 

[Justin]

Whatever you say. It's seems easy for you to just keep adding conditions
as
you go along when you don't see what you want to see.

True, in the past I said "full throttle". I had no idea how dummy proof the
GUI client was. I run F@H as a service. There are more options to set in
the console client and setting the CPU to 100% is one of them. Full
throttle.

 

[Justin]

No, the point is that MS provided ME the drivers in the build they
furnished, I didn't replace them, didn't do anything other than install
them.

I know you're stuck on this. It's too bad as well.

I'm not expected to go out and find drivers when they are already
provided, with a NEW OS, that ships with drivers.

Wrong! However as many more REAL drivers are updated (by the vendors and
NOT MS) and passed down the Windows Update pipeline you'll notice less and
less problems from the initial install.

The problem is that you don't seem to understand that if Vista needed
optimized drivers for common hardware, that it would have or should have
shipped with them, or it should not have been released.

WRONG! You are certainly entitled to your opinion. However if you are
telling ALL OF US that we should NEVER have to update our drivers then THIS
and THIS alone is why I call BS on your self proclaimed 30 years.

 

[Justin]

I didn't see it as a joke.


So when are you take in the facts that people DO have problems with Vista
?

Where the hell have you been? You are clueless!

Hell, it took me 2 days just to get you to look at the video's, and then
you can't even answer simple yes/no questions about what you saw.

Now you are just a pathetic liar right along with alias. I already answered
that post and you already replied to my answer. No links, no problems.
Just you lying.

No wonder
you have all these problems here, you have some type of reading
comprehension problem and can't even follow simple instructions.

Reading comprehension has nothing to do with NOT following orders. Got any
other brilliant statements for us? Especially since I already answered your
post? Borderline trolling dans!

 

[Justin]

Give ONE example of you doing that. Post the link here =====>

You want one? You got one:

I stand corrected. That's a better idea. I didn't even know there was a
status. Thanks DevilsPGD

So adam, once again you've made yourself look like a complete a-hole. You
never answered the question. How does it feel to be so wrong so often?

 

[Justin]

I figured you out reading your first post, months back. Honest kid,
you're very easy to figure out. I've dealt with hundreds of people
just like you over the years. You're all alike: Clueless.

Oh really? Then here's a little something for others to read as they
stumble across this:

Give ONE example of you doing that. Post the link here =====>

You want one? You got one:

I stand corrected. That's a better idea. I didn't even know there was a
status. Thanks DevilsPGD

So adam, once again you've made yourself look like a complete a-hole. You
never answered the question. How does it feel to be so wrong so often?

 

[Leythos]

I know you're stuck on this. It's too bad as well.


Wrong! However as many more REAL drivers are updated (by the vendors
and NOT MS) and passed down the Windows Update pipeline you'll notice
less and less problems from the initial install.

And the point is, that you keep missing, is that MS released Vista with
lacking support for the common platforms that were already out there.

It would have been better to have not provided the drivers, like many were
not provided for XP, so that I would know that I have to go to the vendors
site just to get the basic functions out of the hardware.

WRONG! You are certainly entitled to your opinion. However if you are
telling ALL OF US that we should NEVER have to update our drivers then
THIS and THIS alone is why I call BS on your self proclaimed 30 years.

You know dang well that's not what I said. Clearly, if they are providing
drivers with the new OS they should be optimal for it, not marginal
drivers that provide poor performance in many cases. As I said before, if
they were not going to provide the best drivers include in the OS they
should not have provided them at all.

The fact that they didn't provide quality drivers in the release is a sign
that one of two things happened - 1) Rushed to release, 2) Didn't care
about the quality.

 

[Justin]

And the point is, that you keep missing, is that MS released Vista with
lacking support for the common platforms that were already out there.

And the point is, that you keep missing, is that it’s not MS problem. They
gave vendors Vista LONG BEFORE they ever gave them any other version of
Windows. They recognized the need for the time it would require vendors to
get up to speed. What happened? Vendors either did NOTHING or didn’t even
start until beta 2. Granted I don’t blame most of them seeing as how MS
scrapped the first project.

It would have been better to have not provided the drivers, like many were
not provided for XP, so that I would know that I have to go to the vendors
site just to get the basic functions out of the hardware.


You know dang well that's not what I said. Clearly, if they are providing
drivers with the new OS they should be optimal for it

WRONG! When are you going to get that through your head. A vast majority
of the drivers came FROM the vendors. figure it out.

, not marginal
drivers that provide poor performance in many cases. As I said before, if
they were not going to provide the best drivers include in the OS they
should not have provided them at all.

I disagree. At least this way people are able to get up and running even if
not at the best performance mark. You have to cut the cord somewhere.
Early adopters are just going to have to deal with it. The biggest mistake
made was vendors like Dell who cut the XP cord way to early.

The fact that they didn't provide quality drivers in the release is a sign
that one of two things happened - 1) Rushed to release, 2) Didn't care
about the quality.

What's alternative? OSX? Oops, it only supports a handful of hardware.
Linux? Oops it supports less then Windows. What exactly are you expecting
and where have you received it?

 

[Adam Albright]

Once again adam is 100% wrong. Want proof? Find posts with Stephan in
them. He's taught me a few things about "various things" that I've never
known before. I love to pick his programming brain as he's leaps and bounds
more experienced then myself in that area. Even though we 80% disagree on
Vista "frames of mind".

How does it feel to be so wrong so often?

As for OE. I would be careful using blanket statements about that.
Regardless of it's feature set. It works and countless people use it. You
assume what people need then attempt to force their hand. When you come
across someone you can't force....well, here we are.

Saying some 90 year old is regular because he goes, and ignoring he
spends 45 minutes on the john then forces you know what technically
says he's "regular", but it isn't something I would want to do. Same
for OE. It works, but nothing I would want to strain with.

 

[Adam Albright]

You want one? You got one:




So adam, once again you've made yourself look like a complete a-hole. You
never answered the question. How does it feel to be so wrong so often?

The doofus is you as usual as anybody clicking on the broken link with
a real news agent will see for themself.

Hint: make a reference to Goggle you clueless nitwit.

 

[Justin]

Saying some 90 year old is regular because he goes, and ignoring he
spends 45 minutes on the john then forces you know what technically
says he's "regular", but it isn't something I would want to do. Same
for OE. It works, but nothing I would want to strain with.

I guess that example suits your old age. But still had nothing to do with
OE.

 

[Adam Albright]

Oh really? Then here's a little something for others to read as they
stumble across this:




You want one? You got one:

Twice, minutes apart you're stupid enough to make the same mistake.
Priceless. Somebody else tell Justin why is "link" is so utterly
stupid, I can't stop laughing yet.

 

[Justin]

The doofus is you as usual as anybody clicking on the broken link with
a real news agent will see for themself.

Hint: make a reference to Goggle you clueless nitwit.

Typical. I provide the proof wuttle adum wants and he completely dismisses
it. I just plugged "uGVq#[email protected]" that into Google and
got the wanted link. Either way I took the extra effort and pasted the text
for you. You lazy good for nothing cry baby waste of time old decrepit POS.

I guess your news agent isn't as great as you thought.

 

[Justin]

Twice, minutes apart you're stupid enough to make the same mistake.
Priceless. Somebody else tell Justin why is "link" is so utterly
stupid, I can't stop laughing yet.

Then you are laughing at yourself. I provided the text. If you are too
stupid to use Google if you want ADDITIONAL PROOF then that's on you. In
FACT I specifically remember you posting text when I wanted a LINK and you
told me the same exact thing. To use Google and figure it out myself and
how stupid I must be in not knowing how to use Google. Hahahaha!!!!!
Classic!!!! But I already know you're a hypocrite so that doesn't surprise
me.

 

[Leythos]

And the point is, that you keep missing, is that it’s not MS problem. They
gave vendors Vista LONG BEFORE they ever gave them any other version of
Windows. They recognized the need for the time it would require vendors to
get up to speed. What happened? Vendors either did NOTHING or didn’t even
start until beta 2. Granted I don’t blame most of them seeing as how MS
scrapped the first project.

And the entire thing you seem to miss is that Microsoft Provided The
Drivers to ME via their product called Vista.

I didn't see anything on the box that said "drivers may not be optional
for use with Vista, even though we won't mention it during the install,
during the use, or any other time".

WRONG! When are you going to get that through your head. A vast majority
of the drivers came FROM the vendors. figure it out.

No, ALL OF THE DRIVERS CAME ON MY VISTA CD, MS Provided the Vista CD in
the package I bought - I don't care if MS got drivers from vendors, I care
that MS didn't appear to check them for quality before INCLUDING THEM WITH
VISTA.

I disagree. At least this way people are able to get up and running even if
not at the best performance mark. You have to cut the cord somewhere.
Early adopters are just going to have to deal with it. The biggest mistake
made was vendors like Dell who cut the XP cord way to early.

LOL - so you think that it's OK for Vista to provide less than optimal
drivers, and for MS to have Not Checked their quality, before MS SHIPPED
THEM TO ALL US PURCHASERS?

You've really been sucked into the Zealotry world if you think it's ok for
a vendor to sell you something that has crappy support when you've paid a
LOT for the product.

What's alternative? OSX? Oops, it only supports a handful of hardware.
Linux? Oops it supports less then Windows. What exactly are you expecting
and where have you received it?

I expected Vista, after the long history of development and testing, to
ship as Optimal, as a better OS, as a solution that provide the best of
all things it provides - you say they didn't include Optimal and that I
should accept that, well you're wrong.