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Stefan B Rusynko
You can try it your self if you are running a localhost server under IIS
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SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
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| Yes, that's a good explanation! I had not thought of it as operating this
| way. Thanks, Kevin!
|
| --
| Murray
| --------------
| MVP FrontPage
|
|
| | > Hi Murray,
| >
| > I checked this out on a local IIS web site, by setting the "Enable Content
| > Expiration" header on a sub-web to "Immediate" as Tom described. I can
| > confirm that this caused the "Edit with Expression Web" (the equivalent of
| > the "Edit With FrontPage") menu item to be grayed out in IE. On another
| > site without this header, the menu item was enabled. So, that should
| > confirm this particular behavior. I was still able to view the page
| > source code. A possible explanation is that to edit the page in FrontPage
| > or Expression Web, IE must fetch the cached page from the Temporary
| > Internet Files folder, and since the page is not cached, it is unable to
| > do so.
| >
| > --
| > HTH,
| >
| > Kevin Spencer
| > Microsoft MVP
| >
| > DSI PrintManager, Miradyne Component Libraries:
| > http://www.miradyne.net
| >
| > | >> Yes - I'd love to know if this is correct. Let's see if Kevin can mount
| >> a page for us....
| >>
| >> --
| >> Murray
| >> --------------
| >> MVP FrontPage
| >>
| >>
| >> | >>> Murray: It's been a long time since I've seen it, but, IIRC, the edit
| >>> with
| >>> icon could show as disabled when the host header configuration is set up
| >>> as
| >>> discussed earlier.
| >>> --
| >>> ===
| >>> Tom Willett
| >>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>> ---
| >>> FrontPage Support:
| >>> http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >>> ===
| >>> | >>> | What we are talking about here (unless I misunderstand) is -
| >>> |
| >>> | Why does the "edit with ..." icon appear to be disabled when some
| >>> pages
| >>> are
| >>> | opened, but not when others are.
| >>> |
| >>> | Are your comments directed at that issue?
| >>> |
| >>> | --
| >>> | Murray
| >>> | --------------
| >>> | MVP FrontPage
| >>> |
| >>> |
| >>> | | >>> | > It doesn't affect the Edit With FP Icon from displaying, however it
| >>> will
| >>> | > block access to FP from opening the site.
| >>> | >
| >>> | > --
| >>> | > ==============================================
| >>> | > Thomas A. Rowe
| >>> | > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>> | >
| >>> | > http://www.Ecom-Data.com
| >>> | > ==============================================
| >>> | >
| >>> | >
| >>> | > | >>> | >>I don't see how that could affect my browser.
| >>> | >>
| >>> | >> --
| >>> | >> Murray
| >>> | >> --------------
| >>> | >> MVP FrontPage
| >>> | >>
| >>> | >>
| >>> | >> | >>> | >>> Access via FP can also be block with Server-Side Scripting...
| >>> | >>>
| >>> | >>> --
| >>> | >>> ==============================================
| >>> | >>> Thomas A. Rowe
| >>> | >>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>> | >>>
| >>> | >>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
| >>> | >>> ==============================================
| >>> | >>>
| >>> | >>>
| >>> | >>> | >>> | >>>> Hmmm - sounds fishy to me. Once I have the page in my browser,
| >>> the
| >>> | >>>> host is out of the picture.
| >>> | >>>>
| >>> | >>>> --
| >>> | >>>> Murray
| >>> | >>>> --------------
| >>> | >>>> MVP FrontPage
| >>> | >>>>
| >>> | >>>>
| >>> | >>>> | >>> | >>>>> The host can prohibit it from being used by certain settings on
| >>> the
| >>> | >>>>> server.
| >>> | >>>>> I just forget how they do it. I think it has to do with cache
| >>> | >>>>> settings or
| >>> | >>>>> host headers, I just can't remember.
| >>> | >>>>> --
| >>> | >>>>> ===
| >>> | >>>>> Tom Willett
| >>> | >>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>> | >>>>> ---
| >>> | >>>>> FrontPage Support:
| >>> | >>>>> http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >>> | >>>>> ===
| >>> | >>>>> | >>> | >>>>> |> It's usually a javascript that inhibits, not completely
| >>> prohibits
| >>> | >>>>> viewing.
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> | Not likely.
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> | I'm sure OP is talking about the icon on the IE toolbar that
| >>> allows
| >>> | >>>>> one to
| >>> | >>>>> | edit the page in FP/Whatever. I've wondered about this
| >>> myself.
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> | --
| >>> | >>>>> | Murray
| >>> | >>>>> | --------------
| >>> | >>>>> | MVP FrontPage
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> | | >>> | >>>>> | > The option is grayed out where? When you right click?
| >>> Under
| >>> the
| >>> | >>>>> View
| >>> | >>>>> | > dropdown menu? It's usually a javascript that inhibits, not
| >>> | >>>>> completely
| >>> | >>>>> | > prohibits viewing.
| >>> | >>>>> | >
| >>> | >>>>> | > "Mir" wrote:
| >>> | >>>>> | >
| >>> | >>>>> | >> I have learned a lot from "opening" others' websites in
| >>> FrontPage
| >>> | >>>>> to
| >>> | >>>>> see
| >>> | >>>>> | >> the
| >>> | >>>>> | >> layouts and the relationship between Design view and Code
| >>> view
| >>> | >>>>> (or the
| >>> | >>>>> | >> LACK
| >>> | >>>>> | >> of table layout and an external css to open & study).
| >>> | >>>>> | >> However, when I'm on some sites the option to do so is
| >>> grayed
| >>> | >>>>> out. Why?
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | >>>>
| >>> | >>>>
| >>> | >>>
| >>> | >>>
| >>> | >>
| >>> | >>
| >>> | >
| >>> | >
| >>> |
| >>> |
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
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| >
| >
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--
_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________
| Yes, that's a good explanation! I had not thought of it as operating this
| way. Thanks, Kevin!
|
| --
| Murray
| --------------
| MVP FrontPage
|
|
| | > Hi Murray,
| >
| > I checked this out on a local IIS web site, by setting the "Enable Content
| > Expiration" header on a sub-web to "Immediate" as Tom described. I can
| > confirm that this caused the "Edit with Expression Web" (the equivalent of
| > the "Edit With FrontPage") menu item to be grayed out in IE. On another
| > site without this header, the menu item was enabled. So, that should
| > confirm this particular behavior. I was still able to view the page
| > source code. A possible explanation is that to edit the page in FrontPage
| > or Expression Web, IE must fetch the cached page from the Temporary
| > Internet Files folder, and since the page is not cached, it is unable to
| > do so.
| >
| > --
| > HTH,
| >
| > Kevin Spencer
| > Microsoft MVP
| >
| > DSI PrintManager, Miradyne Component Libraries:
| > http://www.miradyne.net
| >
| > | >> Yes - I'd love to know if this is correct. Let's see if Kevin can mount
| >> a page for us....
| >>
| >> --
| >> Murray
| >> --------------
| >> MVP FrontPage
| >>
| >>
| >> | >>> Murray: It's been a long time since I've seen it, but, IIRC, the edit
| >>> with
| >>> icon could show as disabled when the host header configuration is set up
| >>> as
| >>> discussed earlier.
| >>> --
| >>> ===
| >>> Tom Willett
| >>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>> ---
| >>> FrontPage Support:
| >>> http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >>> ===
| >>> | >>> | What we are talking about here (unless I misunderstand) is -
| >>> |
| >>> | Why does the "edit with ..." icon appear to be disabled when some
| >>> pages
| >>> are
| >>> | opened, but not when others are.
| >>> |
| >>> | Are your comments directed at that issue?
| >>> |
| >>> | --
| >>> | Murray
| >>> | --------------
| >>> | MVP FrontPage
| >>> |
| >>> |
| >>> | | >>> | > It doesn't affect the Edit With FP Icon from displaying, however it
| >>> will
| >>> | > block access to FP from opening the site.
| >>> | >
| >>> | > --
| >>> | > ==============================================
| >>> | > Thomas A. Rowe
| >>> | > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>> | >
| >>> | > http://www.Ecom-Data.com
| >>> | > ==============================================
| >>> | >
| >>> | >
| >>> | > | >>> | >>I don't see how that could affect my browser.
| >>> | >>
| >>> | >> --
| >>> | >> Murray
| >>> | >> --------------
| >>> | >> MVP FrontPage
| >>> | >>
| >>> | >>
| >>> | >> | >>> | >>> Access via FP can also be block with Server-Side Scripting...
| >>> | >>>
| >>> | >>> --
| >>> | >>> ==============================================
| >>> | >>> Thomas A. Rowe
| >>> | >>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>> | >>>
| >>> | >>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
| >>> | >>> ==============================================
| >>> | >>>
| >>> | >>>
| >>> | >>> | >>> | >>>> Hmmm - sounds fishy to me. Once I have the page in my browser,
| >>> the
| >>> | >>>> host is out of the picture.
| >>> | >>>>
| >>> | >>>> --
| >>> | >>>> Murray
| >>> | >>>> --------------
| >>> | >>>> MVP FrontPage
| >>> | >>>>
| >>> | >>>>
| >>> | >>>> | >>> | >>>>> The host can prohibit it from being used by certain settings on
| >>> the
| >>> | >>>>> server.
| >>> | >>>>> I just forget how they do it. I think it has to do with cache
| >>> | >>>>> settings or
| >>> | >>>>> host headers, I just can't remember.
| >>> | >>>>> --
| >>> | >>>>> ===
| >>> | >>>>> Tom Willett
| >>> | >>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>> | >>>>> ---
| >>> | >>>>> FrontPage Support:
| >>> | >>>>> http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >>> | >>>>> ===
| >>> | >>>>> | >>> | >>>>> |> It's usually a javascript that inhibits, not completely
| >>> prohibits
| >>> | >>>>> viewing.
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> | Not likely.
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> | I'm sure OP is talking about the icon on the IE toolbar that
| >>> allows
| >>> | >>>>> one to
| >>> | >>>>> | edit the page in FP/Whatever. I've wondered about this
| >>> myself.
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> | --
| >>> | >>>>> | Murray
| >>> | >>>>> | --------------
| >>> | >>>>> | MVP FrontPage
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> | | >>> | >>>>> | > The option is grayed out where? When you right click?
| >>> Under
| >>> the
| >>> | >>>>> View
| >>> | >>>>> | > dropdown menu? It's usually a javascript that inhibits, not
| >>> | >>>>> completely
| >>> | >>>>> | > prohibits viewing.
| >>> | >>>>> | >
| >>> | >>>>> | > "Mir" wrote:
| >>> | >>>>> | >
| >>> | >>>>> | >> I have learned a lot from "opening" others' websites in
| >>> FrontPage
| >>> | >>>>> to
| >>> | >>>>> see
| >>> | >>>>> | >> the
| >>> | >>>>> | >> layouts and the relationship between Design view and Code
| >>> view
| >>> | >>>>> (or the
| >>> | >>>>> | >> LACK
| >>> | >>>>> | >> of table layout and an external css to open & study).
| >>> | >>>>> | >> However, when I'm on some sites the option to do so is
| >>> grayed
| >>> | >>>>> out. Why?
| >>> | >>>>> |
| >>> | >>>>> |
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