Just built a new PC and it will not boot

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·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`

Just bought a new

Case: V-TECH 8877K
http://www.vtech.com.tw/Products/case/case-k.asp?number=58

Motherboard: ASUS P4S800
http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4s800/overview.htm

CPU: INTEL SL6WG

http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sSpec=SL6WG&ProcFam=483
&PkgType=ALL&SysBusSpd=6107&CorSpd=6088

Ram: 2 x ELIXIR 512MB DDR -400MHz -CL3 PC3200U -30330
Part Number: M2U51264DS8HB3G-5T

http://www.infineon.com/cgi/ecrm.dll/ecrm/scripts/prod_ov.jsp?oid=30466&cat_
oid=-8005

Graphics Card: POWERCOLOR RADEON 9600 R96-D3GN\

http://www.powercolor.com.tw/page2/productlist.asp?page=2&prodid=176&id=1&sn
=176&temp1=2

The first thing that I really need to check is that all this crap is
compatible??? Or have I been sold components which will not work together?


Put the jigsaw together and it will physically 'turn on' but not boot.

By that I mean that the power button will turn on and the the Case power
light will come on.
The Motherboard will spring to life (it has an LED)
The CPU fan will start (as will the power supply fan)

But that is the end of it.

The monitor does not switch from standby (The led should go from orange to
green)
The keyboard will not light up -referring to the CAPS lock . (Nor can I get
the caps lock to function)

I do not know what can cause such a fundamental failure.

If I could get to BIOS - I would have somewhere to start but cannot even get
that far.

I have tried with just one stick of RAM (in case one is faulty) and I have
tried each stick in each of the three sockets - Makes no difference.


Any ideas
 
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JAD

Remove all Hardware except PSU - CPU- MEMORY- VIDCARD. Reseat the vidcard. AGP? needs a SNAP to be secure. try and Boot. No BEEPS?
 
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·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`

Card is definitely seated properly. I have even removed it and tried with an
old PCI vid card

No beeps - Not a solitary one

Tried with no vid card - no mem - no drives of any description.

No boot and no beep

Just sits there like the proverbial shag on it's rock.



JAD said:
Remove all Hardware except PSU - CPU- MEMORY- VIDCARD. Reseat the
vidcard. AGP? needs a SNAP to be secure. try and Boot. No BEEPS?
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JAD

Not good Bud, You will have to rule out the PSU, have a spare? Other than that, its coming down to the CPU or the mainboard. Reseat
the CPU then Jumper short the CMOS (unplugged from outlet)
 
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·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`

I just found our from:
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cbios_dl/cbios_dl.aspx?MB=P4S800&C
PU=P4-3.20%20GHz(800%20MHz%20FSB)%20(HyperThreading)&BIOS=1003

That my motherboard has supported my CPU since BIOS version 1003.

If my BIOS is earlier then I will not be able to boot right?

SO how do I check my BIOS version?

ASUS tell me to check the BIOS version displayed on the screen during
bootup....... and we all know that I cannot boot up, so.....

JAD said:
Not good Bud, You will have to rule out the PSU, have a spare? Other than
that, its coming down to the CPU or the mainboard. Reseat
the CPU then Jumper short the CMOS (unplugged from outlet)

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There is a sticker on the BIOS chip. 1005 - SO there goes that theory.
 
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Mantric

·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯` said:
There is a sticker on the BIOS chip. 1005 - SO there goes that theory.
Have you cleared the bios while powered off and off from the wall socket ?
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M

Mantric

And do check the clear cmos jumper, the manual states that removing will cause pc boot
failure.
I also note your memory isnt on the motherboard qualified list, I may be missing something
here but I think your mobo is rather fussy as
to what memory it will run.

On a more sombre note..... have you checked the cpu for a bent pin ? I got a P4 retail
that had a folded pin in the sealed box.

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W

Walt

Are you sure that every cable is connected correctly?

Are you very sure that every cable is connected correctly?

Are you very, very sure that every cable is connected correctly?

With problems like yours, I have usually found a cable or jumper
miss-connected. It could be simple stuff like "off-by-one-pin" or
180 deg reversed. Yea, everyone was sure that they got them all
connected right. However, it doesn't take much to be slightly off,
or simply misunderstand a badly done manual.
 
D

Dave Hull

With some Asus boards, if you have an IDE device plugged into the data
cable, but not into the the power cable, then they will not boot. Also, if
the RAM requires higher voltage than the mobo is set at from the factory,
then you will have problems booting. I've had this problem with GEIL ram,
which needs higher voltage than most. Remove EVERYTHING from the board
except the CPU Plug in some speakers or headphones into the green output on
back, bower on the board. The POST Voice reporter should say that no memory
has been detected. If that happens, then your board, most likely, isn't
dead. Put in one stick of RAM, again making sure that all of your IDE
devices are unpluged from the board. Does it post?

Dave
 
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·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`

I have booted with Case, MB, CPU and RAM and two graphics cards - NO OTHER
DEVICES

Oly 'cable' is the case power switch (have removed all the others)

There are no other cables to get wrong

Will not boot with and old PCI or the new AGP graphics card.

The CPU fan starts.

There are no beeps at all - nothing.

The power supply on my case says it is P4 ready - 12V
 
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·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`

I have booted with Case, MB, CPU and RAM and two graphics cards - NO OTHER
DEVICES

I have tried without the RAM - No error report from MB - nothing.

Only 'cable' is the case power switch (have removed all the others)

There are no other cables to get wrong

Will not boot with and old PCI or the new AGP graphics card.

The CPU fan starts.

There are no beeps at all - nothing.

The power supply on my case says it is P4 ready - 12V
 
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·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`

Checked the CPU - No issues there
The jumper is in place.

Have tried with no RAM - I should get an error beep - but I do not
 
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Anthony Harris

The power supply on my case says it is P4 ready - 12V
I know this is going to sound a stupid suggestion, but have you connected
the extra 4 pin 12V Power connector to the motherboard, as well as the ATX
standard power cable, as the P4 chips require the extra 12V to run it. Just
a suggestion, as the problem sounds like you have not enough power to start
up the CPU.

Hope this helps
Anthony
 
J

Jim a

Arent' there two power supply connections to the motherboard. I finished a
couple weeks ago putting together my computer with a pnp800 deluxe asus mb,
and there were two power connections....only problem i had was the floppy
cable was upside down.

Jim
 
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Gene Puhl

I have booted with Case, MB, CPU and RAM and two graphics cards - NO OTHER
DEVICES

I have tried without the RAM - No error report from MB - nothing.

Only 'cable' is the case power switch (have removed all the others)

There are no other cables to get wrong

Will not boot with and old PCI or the new AGP graphics card.

The CPU fan starts.

There are no beeps at all - nothing.

The power supply on my case says it is P4 ready - 12V
This has all the symptoms of a dead CPU, sorry....
 
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Matt

·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯` said:
Just bought a new

Case: V-TECH 8877K
http://www.vtech.com.tw/Products/case/case-k.asp?number=58

Motherboard: ASUS P4S800
http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4s800/overview.htm

CPU: INTEL SL6WG

http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sSpec=SL6WG&ProcFam=483
&PkgType=ALL&SysBusSpd=6107&CorSpd=6088

Ram: 2 x ELIXIR 512MB DDR -400MHz -CL3 PC3200U -30330
Part Number: M2U51264DS8HB3G-5T

http://www.infineon.com/cgi/ecrm.dll/ecrm/scripts/prod_ov.jsp?oid=30466&cat_
oid=-8005

Graphics Card: POWERCOLOR RADEON 9600 R96-D3GN\

http://www.powercolor.com.tw/page2/productlist.asp?page=2&prodid=176&id=1&sn
=176&temp1=2

The first thing that I really need to check is that all this crap is
compatible??? Or have I been sold components which will not work together?


Put the jigsaw together and it will physically 'turn on' but not boot.

By that I mean that the power button will turn on and the the Case power
light will come on.
The Motherboard will spring to life (it has an LED)
The CPU fan will start (as will the power supply fan)

But that is the end of it.

The monitor does not switch from standby (The led should go from orange to
green)
The keyboard will not light up -referring to the CAPS lock . (Nor can I get
the caps lock to function)

I do not know what can cause such a fundamental failure.

If I could get to BIOS - I would have somewhere to start but cannot even get
that far.

I have tried with just one stick of RAM (in case one is faulty) and I have
tried each stick in each of the three sockets - Makes no difference.


Any ideas
If it were an AMD, I would check that your heatsink is seated properly
and that your CPU hasn't burned up. P4s have a throttling mechanism
that slows them down when heat is not being removed.
 
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R. Asby Dragon

·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`Dingbat·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯` said:
Just bought a new
8 said:
Any ideas
What's the "mains voltage" in Australia ? Is it 110 volts like us
Yanks or 220 volts like "Mother Britain" ?

Check the backside of the power supply for a slider switch marked
110/220 ; 115/230; or 120/240 (all sameo -- just variations ) .

That "stupid switch" cost me days of grief when I changed case and
PS ; it was in the 220 position when my "mains" is 110 volts .

Major pissoff factor for me; I should have seen that ASAP .
 
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Sooky Grumper

Matt said:
If it were an AMD, I would check that your heatsink is seated properly
and that your CPU hasn't burned up.
New boards make use of the on die thermal protection diode that the AMDs
have had for yonks.
 

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