jumpers on my hard drive

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Guest

I have a Maxtor hard drive Model #90650U2 or 9065OU2, so after the 9065 it's
either a zero or a U. I was using it as a master and it had a jumper on the
second prone. I want to use it as a slave now. It says on the hard drive
Jumper J50 or J5O, again the same zero or O problem, and then it says
Master/Single On, Slave Off. Does that mean that if you use it as a slave you
don't use a jumper?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Daniel
 
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Nepatsfan

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attilathehun1 said:
I have a Maxtor hard drive Model #90650U2 or 9065OU2, so
after the 9065 it's
either a zero or a U. I was using it as a master and it had a
jumper on the
second prone. I want to use it as a slave now. It says on the
hard drive
Jumper J50 or J5O, again the same zero or O problem, and then
it says
Master/Single On, Slave Off. Does that mean that if you use
it as a slave you
don't use a jumper?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Daniel

It looks like no jumpers = slave drive. Note that the jumpers
on the slave in this illustration are in a storage position.
Also, it's a zero not an O.

Maxtor Hard Drive Jumper Settings
http://www.techadvice.com/specs/answer.asp?aid=378

Good luck

Nepatsfan
 
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Guest

Ok, I see the configuration on the hard drive Maxtor and that helps alot. Now
my problem is I have the master drive that the jumper configuration on the
last picture example is rubbed off. It shows the jumper on the second prong.
Now my guess is that it's the master with a slave, but I'm not sure. Right
now the jumper no the master is on a master or single drive. The hard drive
is a Seagate U Series 5, 10 GB, Model #ST310211A, P/N 9R4005-530,
configuration code YFY04, S/N 6DB0BYM8. Now there could be a problem again
with that last number of zero and O. You told me already these were zeros.
Ok, oh ok here more data. Firmware 3.53, Date Code 0120, Site Code SZ.
Ok, now I think that's it.
I'm waiting now to install it into my PC. There was a error problem #3343
or 3433. My friend wants the data off of this hard drive and so I'm figuring
to install it as a slave and then get the data off of it. His boss already
tried to install it into another PC, but as a master. I could've told you
that wouldn't work.
Alright, waiting for your answer and then I'm off to doing this. He wants
it back by 1pm and it's 11:40 right now.
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
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Guest

I see the examples, but what does CLJ mean? I see master w/CLJ. I'm having
the Seagate as my master and the Maxtor as my slave. So from what I'm seeing
I guess I just put the Seagate as the master with 1 jumper and the Maxtor
with no jumper? But, CLJ is a mystery to me right now. After looking over
the example pictures again maybe I have to use 2 jumpers on the Seagate?
I'll wait for your response.
Thanks, Daniel
 
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Phil Weldon

'attilathehun1' wrote:
| I see the examples, but what does CLJ mean? I see master w/CLJ. I'm having
| the Seagate as my master and the Maxtor as my slave. So from what I'm
seeing
| I guess I just put the Seagate as the master with 1 jumper and the Maxtor
| with no jumper? But, CLJ is a mystery to me right now. After looking over
| the example pictures again maybe I have to use 2 jumpers on the Seagate?
| I'll wait for your response.
You could try various jumper positions B^) Incorrect settings will not
work, but no harm will be done. Correct settings will work.

CS or 'Cable Select' is an obsolete setting, and is no longer encountered in
new equipment (last 5 or more years.

CLJ is 'Capacity Limit Jumper' is a setting to allow newer, large capacity
hard drives with obsolete computers.

There is a difference between 0 'zero' and O 'capital letter O' on the drive
labels. As you can see, the capital letter O is wider than the numeral 0.

You can easily find the meaning of 'CLJ' by using the search function at the
Seagate web site.

On the other hand, your Maxtor 90650U2 is an obsolete 6.5 GByte hard drive.
If the rest of your system is of comparable age, then the CS jumper setting
may be needed. In which case you might as well go by trial and error.

Phil Weldon



| Thanks, Daniel
| --
| attilathehun1
|
|
| "Rich Barry" wrote:
|
| > Daniel, check here
| > http://www.seagate.com/images/support/en/us/mxo_ata_jumpers.gif
| >
| >
message
| > | > > I have a Maxtor hard drive Model #90650U2 or 9065OU2, so after the
9065
| > > it's
| > > either a zero or a U. I was using it as a master and it had a jumper
on
| > > the
| > > second prone. I want to use it as a slave now. It says on the hard
drive
| > > Jumper J50 or J5O, again the same zero or O problem, and then it says
| > > Master/Single On, Slave Off. Does that mean that if you use it as a
slave
| > > you
| > > don't use a jumper?
| > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
| > > Thanks, Daniel
| > > --
| > > attilathehun1
| >
| >
| >
 
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Phil Weldon

'attilathehun1' wrote:
| Will there be a different jumper setting if you use the Seagate as a
master
| and the Maxtor as a slave? Anotherwords, will there be instead of having
the
| jumper on the Seagate on the master prong, will the jumper be on a
different
| prong or 2 prongs since there is also a slave drive? Or am I complicating
the
| situation too much? Just put the Seagate on the master prong, which is the
| first prong, and the Maxtor with no jumper, since it's the slave?
_____

You are complicating the situation. If all else fails, trial and error will
get you results. Use the setting that allows you to access both drives
(write down the initial settings so that you can restore the jumpers on each
drive to the original settings after you finish the task.

Phil Weldon

| Will there be a different jumper setting if you use the Seagate as a
master
| and the Maxtor as a slave? Anotherwords, will there be instead of having
the
| jumper on the Seagate on the master prong, will the jumper be on a
different
| prong or 2 prongs since there is also a slave drive? Or am I complicating
the
| situation too much? Just put the Seagate on the master prong, which is the
| first prong, and the Maxtor with no jumper, since it's the slave?
| Thanks, attilathehun1
| --
| attilathehun1
|
|
| "Rich Barry" wrote:
|
| > Daniel, check here
| > http://www.seagate.com/images/support/en/us/mxo_ata_jumpers.gif
| >
| >
message
| > | > > I have a Maxtor hard drive Model #90650U2 or 9065OU2, so after the
9065
| > > it's
| > > either a zero or a U. I was using it as a master and it had a jumper
on
| > > the
| > > second prone. I want to use it as a slave now. It says on the hard
drive
| > > Jumper J50 or J5O, again the same zero or O problem, and then it says
| > > Master/Single On, Slave Off. Does that mean that if you use it as a
slave
| > > you
| > > don't use a jumper?
| > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
| > > Thanks, Daniel
| > > --
| > > attilathehun1
| >
| >
| >
 
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Guest

Will there be a different jumper setting if you use the Seagate as a master
and the Maxtor as a slave? Anotherwords, will there be instead of having the
jumper on the Seagate on the master prong, will the jumper be on a different
prong or 2 prongs since there is also a slave drive? Or am I complicating the
situation too much? Just put the Seagate on the master prong, which is the
first prong, and the Maxtor with no jumper, since it's the slave?
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
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Guest

If I use the cable select settings jumper prong won't I have to have a
compatible parallel cable, the cable with a little hole up near the connector
or does it matter?
The reason I'm asking all these little questions and not just doing trial
and error is because if you took a look at the PC motherboard and what a mess
it is in there, you'd only want to do it one time also. Another thing is the
way the parallel cables are bent would really surprise a PC tech and he'd
probably say the same thing that I'm saying. I have a zip drive in there and
the way I had to bend the cable back over to connect it to the zip drive is
really pushing to the limit.
Thanks, Daniel
 
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Phil Weldon

'attilathehun1' wrote:
| If I use the cable select settings jumper prong won't I have to have a
| compatible parallel cable, the cable with a little hole up near the
connector
| or does it matter?
| The reason I'm asking all these little questions and not just doing trial
| and error is because if you took a look at the PC motherboard and what a
mess
| it is in there, you'd only want to do it one time also. Another thing is
the
| way the parallel cables are bent would really surprise a PC tech and he'd
| probably say the same thing that I'm saying. I have a zip drive in there
and
| the way I had to bend the cable back over to connect it to the zip drive
is
| really pushing to the limit.


Tell your friend to take his hard drive to someone who knows how to
accomplish the task. Or take the problem to a good computer repair center.
That's the only alternative if you still have so many questions. The
answers posted are simple, correct and easily used. Either send your friend
to a knowledgeable computer user, follow the directions, or take the system
in. Quit making this much more complicated than necessary.

Phil Weldon

| Thanks, Daniel
|
|
| --
| attilathehun1
|
|
| "Phil Weldon" wrote:
|
| > 'attilathehun1' wrote:
| > | Will there be a different jumper setting if you use the Seagate as a
| > master
| > | and the Maxtor as a slave? Anotherwords, will there be instead of
having
| > the
| > | jumper on the Seagate on the master prong, will the jumper be on a
| > different
| > | prong or 2 prongs since there is also a slave drive? Or am I
complicating
| > the
| > | situation too much? Just put the Seagate on the master prong, which is
the
| > | first prong, and the Maxtor with no jumper, since it's the slave?
| > _____
| >
| > You are complicating the situation. If all else fails, trial and error
will
| > get you results. Use the setting that allows you to access both drives
| > (write down the initial settings so that you can restore the jumpers on
each
| > drive to the original settings after you finish the task.
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
message
| > | > | Will there be a different jumper setting if you use the Seagate as a
| > master
| > | and the Maxtor as a slave? Anotherwords, will there be instead of
having
| > the
| > | jumper on the Seagate on the master prong, will the jumper be on a
| > different
| > | prong or 2 prongs since there is also a slave drive? Or am I
complicating
| > the
| > | situation too much? Just put the Seagate on the master prong, which is
the
| > | first prong, and the Maxtor with no jumper, since it's the slave?
| > | Thanks, attilathehun1
| > | --
| > | attilathehun1
| > |
| > |
| > | "Rich Barry" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Daniel, check here
| > | >
http://www.seagate.com/images/support/en/us/mxo_ata_jumpers.gif
| > | >
| > | >
| > message
| > | > | > | > > I have a Maxtor hard drive Model #90650U2 or 9065OU2, so after the
| > 9065
| > | > > it's
| > | > > either a zero or a U. I was using it as a master and it had a
jumper
| > on
| > | > > the
| > | > > second prone. I want to use it as a slave now. It says on the hard
| > drive
| > | > > Jumper J50 or J5O, again the same zero or O problem, and then it
says
| > | > > Master/Single On, Slave Off. Does that mean that if you use it as
a
| > slave
| > | > > you
| > | > > don't use a jumper?
| > | > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
| > | > > Thanks, Daniel
| > | > > --
| > | > > attilathehun1
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
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Guest

I want to give you another reply. I installed the hard drive on my DIY thrown
together from different PCs as a slave. I put the jumper on horizontally so
it would be in a storage position and not effect the hard drive. No jumper on
a slave as long as it's not a giant GB hard drive. The letters CLJ, capacity
limit jumper, mean a hard drive that's over 80 GB I assume on an older PC.
Ok, as far as giving the hard drive to someone who knows wtf they're doing, I
have all the data that he needs, all the customer's names at Tune-Up Masters
and the receipts that he needs. And I'm not charging him anything really. He
put on my windshield wipers and he can put on my seat covers too. Besides
that I don't need anything else for helping a friend out. Actually, my friend
works there for nothing, and it's his friend but I should say a friend of his
is a friend of mine. No matter, I'm not in this business anymore really to
make a buck. Also they wanted 85 bucks just to take a look at it at some PC
store. So much for bringing it to someone else to do it. All it takes is a
little time, and troubleshooting it. Not everybody is a PC wonder do-it-all
boy.
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
G

Guest

Ok, I don't see my response, so here goes again.
I installed the hard drive as a slave, with no jumper, or with the jumper
in the storage position horizonally. Now since the hard drive doesn't have to
be used to boot the PC or get it started there is no error 3343 coming up.
Now I can see all the data that the tune-up master friend wants. The
employees, the customers, the receipt forms, and etc...
So much for bringing the PC to a PC tech store, and getting charged an arm
and a leg for getting the data back. In fact, he has another used PC now, so
I'll just install the hard drive on his PC as a slave, just as I did on my
PC. Presto!
Next time Phil think twice or three times that someone else besides you
might be able to troubleshoot a PC and get an idea of how to fix it or not go
to some PC tech and get charged, wait, oh yeah 85 bucks just to bring it in
and look at it.
Anyways, I'll say thanks for the information that everyone gave me.
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
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Phil Weldon

'attilathehun1' wrote, in part:
| Ok, I don't see my response, so here goes again.
| I installed the hard drive as a slave, with no jumper, or with the jumper
| in the storage position horizonally. Now since the hard drive doesn't have
to
| be used to boot the PC or get it started there is no error 3343 coming up.
| Now I can see all the data that the tune-up master friend wants. The
| employees, the customers, the receipt forms, and etc...

I suggested you use trial and error to find the correct jumper settings in
three different posts. I'm glad you finally decided to follow that advice
and were successful. So why are you upset?

Phil Weldon

| Ok, I don't see my response, so here goes again.
| I installed the hard drive as a slave, with no jumper, or with the jumper
| in the storage position horizonally. Now since the hard drive doesn't have
to
| be used to boot the PC or get it started there is no error 3343 coming up.
| Now I can see all the data that the tune-up master friend wants. The
| employees, the customers, the receipt forms, and etc...
| So much for bringing the PC to a PC tech store, and getting charged an arm
| and a leg for getting the data back. In fact, he has another used PC now,
so
| I'll just install the hard drive on his PC as a slave, just as I did on my
| PC. Presto!
| Next time Phil think twice or three times that someone else besides you
| might be able to troubleshoot a PC and get an idea of how to fix it or not
go
| to some PC tech and get charged, wait, oh yeah 85 bucks just to bring it
in
| and look at it.
| Anyways, I'll say thanks for the information that everyone gave me.
| Thanks, attilathehun1
| --
| attilathehun1
|
|
| "attilathehun1" wrote:
|
| > If I use the cable select settings jumper prong won't I have to have a
| > compatible parallel cable, the cable with a little hole up near the
connector
| > or does it matter?
| > The reason I'm asking all these little questions and not just doing
trial
| > and error is because if you took a look at the PC motherboard and what a
mess
| > it is in there, you'd only want to do it one time also. Another thing is
the
| > way the parallel cables are bent would really surprise a PC tech and
he'd
| > probably say the same thing that I'm saying. I have a zip drive in there
and
| > the way I had to bend the cable back over to connect it to the zip drive
is
| > really pushing to the limit.
| > Thanks, Daniel
| >
| >
| > --
| > attilathehun1
| >
| >
| > "Phil Weldon" wrote:
| >
| > > 'attilathehun1' wrote:
| > > | Will there be a different jumper setting if you use the Seagate as a
| > > master
| > > | and the Maxtor as a slave? Anotherwords, will there be instead of
having
| > > the
| > > | jumper on the Seagate on the master prong, will the jumper be on a
| > > different
| > > | prong or 2 prongs since there is also a slave drive? Or am I
complicating
| > > the
| > > | situation too much? Just put the Seagate on the master prong, which
is the
| > > | first prong, and the Maxtor with no jumper, since it's the slave?
| > > _____
| > >
| > > You are complicating the situation. If all else fails, trial and
error will
| > > get you results. Use the setting that allows you to access both
drives
| > > (write down the initial settings so that you can restore the jumpers
on each
| > > drive to the original settings after you finish the task.
| > >
| > > Phil Weldon
| > >
message
| > > | > > | Will there be a different jumper setting if you use the Seagate as a
| > > master
| > > | and the Maxtor as a slave? Anotherwords, will there be instead of
having
| > > the
| > > | jumper on the Seagate on the master prong, will the jumper be on a
| > > different
| > > | prong or 2 prongs since there is also a slave drive? Or am I
complicating
| > > the
| > > | situation too much? Just put the Seagate on the master prong, which
is the
| > > | first prong, and the Maxtor with no jumper, since it's the slave?
| > > | Thanks, attilathehun1
| > > | --
| > > | attilathehun1
| > > |
| > > |
| > > | "Rich Barry" wrote:
| > > |
| > > | > Daniel, check here
| > > | >
http://www.seagate.com/images/support/en/us/mxo_ata_jumpers.gif
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > message
| > > | > | > > | > > I have a Maxtor hard drive Model #90650U2 or 9065OU2, so after
the
| > > 9065
| > > | > > it's
| > > | > > either a zero or a U. I was using it as a master and it had a
jumper
| > > on
| > > | > > the
| > > | > > second prone. I want to use it as a slave now. It says on the
hard
| > > drive
| > > | > > Jumper J50 or J5O, again the same zero or O problem, and then it
says
| > > | > > Master/Single On, Slave Off. Does that mean that if you use it
as a
| > > slave
| > > | > > you
| > > | > > don't use a jumper?
| > > | > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
| > > | > > Thanks, Daniel
| > > | > > --
| > > | > > attilathehun1
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > >
| > >
| > >
 

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