John Carmack's official comments on NV40 (GeForce 6800 family)

[John Lewis]

It's a bad review that's typical of those ****wits at HardOCP. It's not
that they're biased, just that most of their reviews have more holes in
them than a Swiss cheese. What they are trying, and totally failing to do,
is set each card at it's maximum settings that will produce similar
results and get a feel for 'the overall gaming experience'. For example
they set the GF6800 to 1600x1200 with x8AF and 4xAA and compare it to the
9800XT at 1280x1024 with no AA or AF. So what happens is that many people
like yourself will quickly scan over the graphs and think 'hmm, the GF
isn't much faster than the Radeon.' I suggest you check out Anandtech if
you want credible reviews.

Or Xbit Labs. who have not been stellar fans of nVidia in the past...
Excellent detailed review, probably the best of them so far...........

Also, Iam not a Tom's Hardware fan, but their 6800 review was nicely
written with lots of useful info.

John Lewis

 

[Paul Smith]

The #s speak for themselves, but against what? Last generation's products?
Well, I would certainly expect a next gen. product to outperform last gen.
parts, but I'm just funny that way.

LOL. ;-)

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[Mike P]

Hey John, FYI a purist troll doesn't reply to the original post.

 

[mr bernard langham]

Holy shit.

1000 Watt PSU here we come.


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[Jonathan]

So how much are these new super cards going to cost ?
Twice the cost of the PC I install it in ?

EST prices: $500 for Ultra version. $300 for non-Ultra (12 pipelines vs
16, I think). oh, and there's suppose to be a 512mb version coming out
later on.

regards
Jonathan

 

[Jonathan]

It's a bad review that's typical of those ****wits at HardOCP. It's not
that they're biased, just that most of their reviews have more holes in
them than a Swiss cheese. What they are trying, and totally failing to do,
is set each card at it's maximum settings that will produce similar
results and get a feel for 'the overall gaming experience'. For example
they set the GF6800 to 1600x1200 with x8AF and 4xAA and compare it to the
9800XT at 1280x1024 with no AA or AF. So what happens is that many people
like yourself will quickly scan over the graphs and think 'hmm, the GF
isn't much faster than the Radeon.' I suggest you check out Anandtech if
you want credible reviews.

K

Hardcore does a WARNING right up front about their benchmarks not being
apples to apples. But then why do the test then? So that the reader could
find the highest possible rez to play the game on.

Sort of like taking two pickup trucks, dumping 16,000lb load in one, and
only 2,000lb in the other, and having both of them race to the finish line.
The one with the 16,000lb load get's there 2 msecs ahead of the other.
2msecs doesn't seem like much until you realize the enormous weight that it
had to haul. The test isn't trying to find the fastest truck, but rather
which truck can carry the most and still get across the finish line in
acceptable time.

regards
Jonathan