Is Windows firewall a supplement to third party FW?

H

Hem

XP Home, SP1. Is the ICF intended as a supplement to third party firewalls?
What I mean by this is if I use a third party fw should I deactivate the
Windows one or leave it on. Thanks.
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

If you wish to use a third-party firewall, you should disable
Windows XP's firewall to avoid potential conflicts and error
messages.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

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| XP Home, SP1. Is the ICF intended as a supplement to third party firewalls?
| What I mean by this is if I use a third party fw should I deactivate the
| Windows one or leave it on. Thanks.
|
| --
| Regards
 
D

Doug Knox MS-MVP

The built in firewall is a basic firewall, it stops inbound attacks, but does not stop outbound traffic.

Generally, if you install a 3rd party firewall and configure it properly, you can turn XP's firewall off.
 
R

Redman

Hem said:
XP Home, SP1. Is the ICF intended as a supplement to third party firewalls?
What I mean by this is if I use a third party fw should I deactivate the
Windows one or leave it on. Thanks.

Don't use the built in Windows one period, it's shite. Use something like
Sygate, Zonealarm etc.

Redman
 
T

Tom

Carey Frisch said:
If you wish to use a third-party firewall, you should disable
Windows XP's firewall to avoid potential conflicts and error
messages.

You are really this daft aren't you? WTF does your reply have to do with the
OPs question???
 
T

Tom

Hem said:
XP Home, SP1. Is the ICF intended as a supplement to third party
firewalls?
What I mean by this is if I use a third party fw should I deactivate the
Windows one or leave it on. Thanks.

It is in no way a supplement, it is simply Windows built-in firewall. It
works very well at stopping inbound garbage, but doesn't monitor any
outbound things from your PC.

Use a good 3rd party firewall like Zone Alarm, or Sygate, and both have free
versions. You will never need Windows firewall with those 3rd party versions
installed and running.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Hem said:
XP Home, SP1. Is the ICF intended as a supplement to third party
firewalls? What I mean by this is if I use a third party fw should I
deactivate the Windows one or leave it on. Thanks.

Carey said:
If you wish to use a third-party firewall, you should disable
Windows XP's firewall to avoid potential conflicts and error
messages.
You are really this daft aren't you? WTF does your reply have to do
with the OPs question???


Tom,

Please see the complete thread above. Notice the OP asks, "if I use a third
party fw should I deactivate the Windows one or leave it on?" Carey then
answers that that if they decide to use a third party firewall, they should
disable Windows XP's built in one.

Strangely, however, you see that direct answer to the OP's question as
somehow, non-related?

Which part of the OP's question do you see that the rest of us may have
missed?
 
T

Tom

Shenan Stanley said:
Tom,

Please see the complete thread above. Notice the OP asks, "if I use a
third
party fw should I deactivate the Windows one or leave it on?" Carey then
answers that that if they decide to use a third party firewall, they
should
disable Windows XP's built in one.

Strangely, however, you see that direct answer to the OP's question as
somehow, non-related?

Which part of the OP's question do you see that the rest of us may have
missed?
Read it again, I won't oblige!
 
H

Hem

Carey said:
If you wish to use a third-party firewall, you should disable
Windows XP's firewall to avoid potential conflicts and error
messages.

Thanks everyone for response. I use ZA as third party and am in process of
switching to Sygate. I thought that the Windows ICF was not a supplemenary
system but just made a quick check. Thanks again.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Hem said:
XP Home, SP1. Is the ICF intended as a supplement to third party
firewalls? What I mean by this is if I use a third party fw should I
deactivate the Windows one or leave it on. Thanks.

Carey said:
If you wish to use a third-party firewall, you should disable
Windows XP's firewall to avoid potential conflicts and error
messages.
You are really this daft aren't you? WTF does your reply have to do
with the OPs question???

Shenan said:
Please see the complete thread above.
Notice the OP asks, "if I use a third party fw should I deactivate
the Windows one or leave it on?"

Carey then answers that that if they decide to use a third party
firewall, they should disable Windows XP's built in one.

Strangely, however, you see that direct answer to the OP's question
as somehow, non-related?

Which part of the OP's question do you see that the rest of us may
have missed?
Read it again, I won't oblige!


I figured you would be stubborn, that's why I included it in the reply.
This way everyone else could read it. =)

And no, this has nothing to do with the OP's original question any longer,
as that has been answered in the same manner at least three times.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Greetings --

No, WinXP's built-in ICF is _not_ designed to act as a compliment
to 3rd party firewalls, and Microsoft actually recommends disabling it
if you use another software firewall, although a great many people
have reported no problems using ICF in conjunction with other
products. Running two or more software firewalls simultaneously is
generally unnecessary and can sometimes cause conflicts, possibly
negating the protection of both. In any event, having two firewalls
running simultaneously is most certainly an unnecessary drain on
system resources.

However, the much improved Windows Firewall that comes as part of
WinXP's Service Pack 2 _is_ designed to compliment 3rd party
firewalls.


Bruce Chambers
--
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having both at once. - RAH
 
C

cquirke (MVP Win9x)

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:18:04 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
If you wish to use a third-party firewall, you should disable
Windows XP's firewall to avoid potential conflicts and error
messages.

One question on this. Accepting that add-on firewalls are more
effective than the built-in one in general terms, yes, but; do they
start up early enough to replace SP2's boot-time protection? If not,
is there a way to allow the built-in firewall to deliver this value,
and then hand off to the "real" (third-party) one? If so, are there
any race condition risks during this hand-off?

OK; several related questions, then ;-)

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