Is Ubuntu a copmplete system

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brummyfan

Is it or not?
1.Open Office
2.Compiz Fusion
3.Emerald Theme Manager
And with many more FREE utilities future looks UBUNTU.
Its very sad that I am unable to do even a simple task such as surfing
without interruption with my Vista laptop(which looks pathetic with an
ancient look).
When will you grow up Vista?
 
D

D. Eth

brummyfan said:
Is it or not?
1.Open Office
2.Compiz Fusion
3.Emerald Theme Manager
And with many more FREE utilities future looks UBUNTU.
Its very sad that I am unable to do even a simple task such as surfing
without interruption with my Vista laptop(which looks pathetic with an
ancient look).
When will you grow up Vista?


Compiz and Emerald lock up the system all the time.
Neither "look" good.
Ever notice how many "Vista" themes are available ?
Pretty much says how good Vista looks, immitation being the best form of
flattery.

Looks wise, Vista wins, no contest.
 
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Alias

D. Eth said:
Compiz and Emerald lock up the system all the time.

Not on my machine and I mean *never*.
Neither "look" good.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
Ever notice how many "Vista" themes are available ?

Ever notice how many Ubuntu themes are available?
Pretty much says how good Vista looks, immitation being the best form of
flattery.

Yeah, Aero came out after Beryl. Oops.
Looks wise, Vista wins, no contest.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Ya know, like your wife who's the
poster child for a pig with lipstick.

Alias
 
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D. Eth

Alias said:
Not on my machine and I mean *never*.


Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.


Ever notice how many Ubuntu themes are available?


Yeah, Aero came out after Beryl. Oops.


Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Ya know, like your wife who's the
poster child for a pig with lipstick.

Alias


Personal attacks on my wife ( quite a pretty piggy) only show you lie.

There are far less ubuntu themes (if puke brown/orange is a theme ?) than
Vista like.
 
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Alias

D. Eth said:
Personal attacks on my wife ( quite a pretty piggy) only show you lie.

Like I said, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What is a pig with
lipstick to one person is a "pretty piggy" to others.
There are far less ubuntu themes (if puke brown/orange is a theme ?)
than Vista like.

No brown or orange on my machine. Oops.

Alias
 
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D. Eth

Alias said:
Like I said, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What is a pig with
lipstick to one person is a "pretty piggy" to others.


No brown or orange on my machine. Oops.

Alias


Very existential...LOL.
Smoking pot gives you a lot of such "deep thoughts" ?

No need to answer !
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

brummyfan said:
Is it or not?
1.Open Office
2.Compiz Fusion
3.Emerald Theme Manager
And with many more FREE utilities future looks UBUNTU.
Its very sad that I am unable to do even a simple task such as surfing
without interruption with my Vista laptop(which looks pathetic with an
ancient look).
When will you grow up Vista?


If you can't surf with a Vista laptop, then you can't surf with a Linux box
either..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
 
D

DanS

D. Eth said:
Compiz and Emerald lock up the system all the time.

Maybe on your computer they do, but they don't on mine. Actually, with
only a 1Ghz Athlon CPU w/512M of RAM, and an old 64M GeForce4 vid card,
I'm was actually shocked initially by how well the very few transitions
and effects I have set work. Stardock's WinFX is not even usable on that
PC.
Neither "look" good.
Ever notice how many "Vista" themes are available ?

Most likely not as many as are available for the every other desktop
environment.

And certainly not from MS.

Themeing a UI is nothing new. And certainly was not provided by MS prior
to WindowsXP. It took a third party app to 'theme' earlier Windows
versions, Stardock's WindowBlinds, which may or may not have been buggy
depending on your h/w and s/w configuration. The early version's of that
sucked.

Being able to 'theme' your UI was initially available on for Unix
variants under the name of NextStep developed by NeXT.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXTSTEP)

Then AfterStep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterstep), which was based
on NextStep. Granted, to edit a theme you had to manually edit the
step.rc file, but a themeing engine none the less.

LiteStep, a windows port of AfterStep, was released to the public in 1998
as a (complete) Windows shell replacement which allows you to completely
change the look and feel of the OS. LiteStep was the first to offer
multiple desktops for Windows also.

There is even a LiteStep section @ WinCustomize.com..if you can take a
minute to look: http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?libid=6

Hmmmm.....seems to be a commercial version of *step called WinStep.
Yet *another* third party that offers a very much improved and flexible
theming engine for Windows.
Pretty much says how good Vista looks, immitation being the best form of
flattery.

Yes....have a look here:

Looks wise, Vista wins, no contest.

Maybe, when a third-party piece of s/w is involved.
 
D

D. Eth

DanS said:
Maybe on your computer they do, but they don't on mine. Actually, with
only a 1Ghz Athlon CPU w/512M of RAM, and an old 64M GeForce4 vid card,
I'm was actually shocked initially by how well the very few transitions
and effects I have set work. Stardock's WinFX is not even usable on that
PC.


Most likely not as many as are available for the every other desktop
environment.

And certainly not from MS.

Themeing a UI is nothing new. And certainly was not provided by MS prior
to WindowsXP. It took a third party app to 'theme' earlier Windows
versions, Stardock's WindowBlinds, which may or may not have been buggy
depending on your h/w and s/w configuration. The early version's of that
sucked.

Being able to 'theme' your UI was initially available on for Unix
variants under the name of NextStep developed by NeXT.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXTSTEP)

Then AfterStep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterstep), which was based
on NextStep. Granted, to edit a theme you had to manually edit the
step.rc file, but a themeing engine none the less.

LiteStep, a windows port of AfterStep, was released to the public in 1998
as a (complete) Windows shell replacement which allows you to completely
change the look and feel of the OS. LiteStep was the first to offer
multiple desktops for Windows also.

There is even a LiteStep section @ WinCustomize.com..if you can take a
minute to look: http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?libid=6

Hmmmm.....seems to be a commercial version of *step called WinStep.
Yet *another* third party that offers a very much improved and flexible
theming engine for Windows.


Yes....have a look here:



Maybe, when a third-party piece of s/w is involved.


Funny Video.
Notice ... linux can do almost NONE of that.

Try gnuchess in 3D !
When you stop laughing, you'll realize linux is pretty new to graphics.
It misses the CLI ... wants to stay there.
 
D

D.Eth

D. Eth wrote:



Works fine on my lowly AMD XP 2200+. It always beats me though while the
Vista chess game always loses.

Alias

Those graphics would run great on an Etch-a-Sketch !

No surprise there !
 
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Alias

D.Eth said:
Those graphics would run great on an Etch-a-Sketch !

No surprise there !

If you can load *any* OS on an Etch-a-Sketch, you will make history. Are
you always this stupid or did you get drunk today?

Alias
 
J

Josh

I like Ubuntu... I like Vista better though.

It's easy to look at Ubuntu and say, oh it has this, this and this which all
kick Vista... but overlook many of the other glaringly obvious failures. The
fact that the Ubuntu founder and funder himself has said Ubuntu needs a
dramatic new and improved UI says there is a lot that needs to be done.

Sure, Ubuntu has Compiz, you can make some nice desktops and taskbars, but
unfortunately a lot of the applications have UIs which feel years out of
date... like XP does after you've used Vista. It'll be interesting to see
how the Ubuntu team goes with their goal for UI eye candy anyway.

Incidentally, anyone liking the 'icon-less' toolbars in new Windows Live and
leaked Win7 shots? I'm a bit undecided... think I prefer the icons though...

Oh and did he say Open Office was a reason to use Ubuntu? OO is hardly a
real alternative to Office 2007.
 
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brummyfan

Mike Hall - MVP said:
If you can't surf with a Vista laptop, then you can't surf with a Linux box
either..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
Its not that I can't surf, its the damn thing (Vista) cuts off my Internet
while my Pretty Ubuntu never had any Internet hanging, I am a very happy user
of Ubuntu.Thank You very much.
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

brummyfan said:
Its not that I can't surf, its the damn thing (Vista) cuts off my Internet
while my Pretty Ubuntu never had any Internet hanging, I am a very happy
user
of Ubuntu.Thank You very much.


Vista has never cut mine off.. learn to configure the network settings and
card..

Surfing is about all I do with Ubuntu..

--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
 
T

Telstar

D. Eth said:
Compiz and Emerald lock up the system all the time.
Neither "look" good.
Ever notice how many "Vista" themes are available ?
Pretty much says how good Vista looks, immitation being the best form of
flattery.

Looks wise, Vista wins, no contest.

Correct.
 
D

DanS

D. Eth said:
Funny Video.
Notice ... linux can do almost NONE of that.

Linux can do anything any other OS can do, if a developer(s) decides they
want to write the s/w.
Try gnuchess in 3D !
When you stop laughing, you'll realize linux is pretty new to
graphics. It misses the CLI ... wants to stay there.

So I tried GNUchess. You're right, crappy graphics, but again, not a
Linux limitation...a *developer* limitation. I've seen a lot of crappy,
Windows games too, graphics-wise.

If it was a Linux problem, there wouldn't be this 3D Chess game
available, which from looking at the screenshots, has much more skilled
developer(s).....

http://www.dreamchess.org/home.html?page=5

Unfortunately, the d/l page @ linuxappfinder.com only has the latest
version in a Debian package...the Ubuntu installer there is the previous
version. Hmmm. I thought a .deb would usually work in Ubuntu. Well,
usually is the key word.

So the d/l from the developer is only available as source, but there is a
doc inside called 'Install' that gives complete directions to follow.
 

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