is there ANYBODY who can help with CHKDSK problem

[Guest]

no answer from previous post so trying again..on bootup CHKDSK appears and
does files ok but stops at indexes but with much disk activity..so have to
reboot and cancel CHKDSK to get to windows which then works ok...SO what can
be done....

 

[John John]

How big is your drive and how long have you let chkdsk run?

John

 

[R. McCarty]

Phase 2 can take a good bit of time to complete, depending on how
many files are on your system volume. Halting an operation like that
isn't a good idea. Just because Windows loads/runs doesn't mean the
volume has no issue(s).

Chkdsk can report some issues that are due to the fact that Chkdsk
doesn't have exclusive use of the drive. The boot time Chkdsk with
a /F or /R qualifier should avoid that.

My advice is the run the full 5-Phase Chkdsk and allow it to finish
it's check of drive. NEVER - run a /F or /R Chkdsk unless the data
on the drive is backed up/verified. Chkdsk can and does remove any
data it considers corrupted or invalid to get a "Clean" status.

 

[Guest]

30GB and its on my wifes laptop and she has had this problem for over a week
now and is now at the stage of automatically cancelling CHKDSK

 

[David B.]

Runt he hard drive mfg's diagnostics on the drive to make sure it isn't
failing.

 

[Guest]

much thanks go raibh maith agat

Phase 2 can take a good bit of time to complete, depending on how
many files are on your system volume. Halting an operation like that
isn't a good idea. Just because Windows loads/runs doesn't mean the
volume has no issue(s).

Chkdsk can report some issues that are due to the fact that Chkdsk
doesn't have exclusive use of the drive. The boot time Chkdsk with
a /F or /R qualifier should avoid that.

My advice is the run the full 5-Phase Chkdsk and allow it to finish
it's check of drive. NEVER - run a /F or /R Chkdsk unless the data
on the drive is backed up/verified. Chkdsk can and does remove any
data it considers corrupted or invalid to get a "Clean" status.

 

[Guest]

thank you

Runt he hard drive mfg's diagnostics on the drive to make sure it isn't
failing.

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[John John]

You didn't say how long she let it run. Has it been left to run its
complete cycle? It can take quite a bit of time when it is checking the
indexes, several hours is not unusual, you have to be patient and let it
run its course. Otherwise follow David B.'s advice, run a manufacturers
diagnostic test on the disk, it may be failing and may need to be
replaced. Make sure that your wife has a backup of her important files!
If the disk is failing she is at a high risk of loosing *all* the data
on the disk!

John

 

[Kayman]

no answer from previous post so trying again..on bootup CHKDSK appears and
does files ok but stops at indexes but with much disk activity..so have to
reboot and cancel CHKDSK to get to windows which then works ok...SO what can
be done....

If you're running Kaspersky AV this might be of interest to your situation:
http://www.google.com/search?q=chckdsk+kaspersky+issue

http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Kaspersky-AV-Breaking-CHKDSK-85517

"For several weeks, users in our security forum have been discussing a
problem with Kaspersky Anti-Virus they say the company refuses to properly
address. At fault is the company's iSwift technology, which speeds up virus
scans by tagging (NTFS-identifiers) certain files and tracking whether
they've been changed (and thus need to be rescanned).

According to forum users, the technology all but breaks CHKDSK
functionality, and the changes are permanent even if you uninstall the
software. Kaspersky blames Microsoft for the problem, but our forum
regulars insist the problem is Kaspersky's."

 

[Guest]

just to say you were so right and leaving CHKDSK to run as long as it wanted
worked a charm so again thank you

 

[Guest]

Ah!!!! recently installed Steganos AV(based on Kaspersky) on wifes laptop
which may explain a lot..in the meantime leaving CHKDSK to run as long as it
wanted paid off but much thanks for the info

 

[R. McCarty]

You're certainly Welcome & Thanks for posting your results.

 

[Kayman]

Ah!!!! recently installed Steganos AV(based on Kaspersky) on wifes laptop
which may explain a lot..in the meantime leaving CHKDSK to run as long as it
wanted paid off but much thanks for the info

You're welcome.
I understand (based on numerous posts in various fora) that running
Kaspersky AV will deteriorate chkdsk scans gradually over time;
Reformatting the HDD is apparently the only solution - so please be guided
accordingly. You may wish to consider an alternative AV apps.

Good luck

 

[John John]

I understand (based on numerous posts in various fora) that running
Kaspersky AV will deteriorate chkdsk scans gradually over time;
Reformatting the HDD is apparently the only solution - so please be guided
accordingly. You may wish to consider an alternative AV apps.

If this is indeed true it is a terrible mark on Kapersky's reputation!
They really need to address this in a hurry and issue warnings and
apologies fast! It is not a minor bug, it is the kind of thing that may
drive many customers away and harm them for years to come! Knowing this
I certainly wouldn't use or recommend their products! Compared to that
Norton looks good... which isn't exactly a compliment for Kapersky!

John

 

[witan]

If this is indeed true it is a terrible mark on Kapersky's reputation!
They really need to address this in a hurry and issue warnings and
apologies fast! It is not a minor bug, it is the kind of thing that may
drive many customers away and harm them for years to come! Knowing this
I certainly wouldn't use or recommend their products! Compared to that
Norton looks good... which isn't exactly a compliment for Kapersky!

John

I think this is also relevant to an earlier thread:
http://groups.google.co.in/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/2b0d8cc479692830
"CHKDSK is hanging on stage 2 of 3 (verifying indexes)". (The
"solution" suggested was to run chkdsk with the parameter /I, but I
will not enter here into a discussion on the merits of the solution.)
I have been having the same problem of chkdsk becoming very slow to
start "verifying indexes". This happens when I run chkdsk inside
Windows, without the /F parameter, and also chkdsk at boot-up.
The reason for addressing this reply to John is that my problem
(chkdsk slowing down at Stage 2) started after I installed Zone Alarm
(ZA). It may be a case of "post hoc ergo propter hoc", but Chkdsk
"deleted" a file C:\WINDOWS\Internet Logs\backup.rdb, which, I learnt
later, is created by ZA. Curiously, I found that this file cannot be
deleted manually in normal Windows mode, even after shutting down ZA
-- it can be deleted only in safe mode. How does chkdsk "delete" it,
if at all it does so?

 

[John John]

I think this is also relevant to an earlier thread:
http://groups.google.co.in/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/2b0d8cc479692830
"CHKDSK is hanging on stage 2 of 3 (verifying indexes)". (The
"solution" suggested was to run chkdsk with the parameter /I, but I
will not enter here into a discussion on the merits of the solution.)
I have been having the same problem of chkdsk becoming very slow to
start "verifying indexes". This happens when I run chkdsk inside
Windows, without the /F parameter, and also chkdsk at boot-up.
The reason for addressing this reply to John is that my problem
(chkdsk slowing down at Stage 2) started after I installed Zone Alarm
(ZA). It may be a case of "post hoc ergo propter hoc", but Chkdsk
"deleted" a file C:\WINDOWS\Internet Logs\backup.rdb, which, I learnt
later, is created by ZA. Curiously, I found that this file cannot be
deleted manually in normal Windows mode, even after shutting down ZA
-- it can be deleted only in safe mode. How does chkdsk "delete" it,
if at all it does so?

Are you sure it deleted the file? It probably moved it to one of the
the File<nnnn>.chk files. All I can say is that Chkdsk has privileges
that users may not have to move or delete files.

John

 

[witan]

Are you sure it deleted the file? It probably moved it to one of the
the File<nnnn>.chk files. All I can say is that Chkdsk has privileges
that users may not have to move or delete files.

John

Not sure chkdsk deleted the file. It gave a message "deleting...", but
could have failed. No *.chk files were found on search. Even if the
file is deleted (say, in safe mode), ZA will recreate it. I remember
having read somwhere that some of the files created by ZA can become
huge, eg tvDebug.log, which, however, can be deleted in normal windows
mode after shutting down ZA.