Is it normal for my Samsung 17" CRT monitor to still create heatin off mode (XP's power saving)?

[Ant]

Hello.

Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still
create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is
still very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I do
not use any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128
MB) and Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.

Thank you in advance.
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[wojo]

Hello.

Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still
create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is still
very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I do not use
any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128 MB) and
Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.

Thank you in advance.
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No that is definitely not normal.
Your monitor is faulty.
It may be pssoible to unpluf it for a few hours to drain the capacitors,
clean the dust off the ventilation slots on the top and back, and then turn
it back on. But not likely.
If it is a new monitor or a monitor less than a year old (still under
warranty) it needs to be replaced.

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[Ant]

No that is definitely not normal.
Your monitor is faulty.
It may be pssoible to unpluf it for a few hours to drain the capacitors,
clean the dust off the ventilation slots on the top and back, and then turn
it back on. But not likely.
If it is a new monitor or a monitor less than a year old (still under
warranty) it needs to be replaced.

Thanks for the very quick response. Rats, I wished I had noticed it
earlier. I have had this monitor since July 2002. I only use the power
saving mode (sleep) when I forgot to turn off the monitor manually
because I fell asleep which is rare.
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[dev]

/Ant/ said:

Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still
create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is
still very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I do
not use any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128
MB) and Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.

In flashing yellow mode, the monitor is "snoozing", but not totally
powered down. 3 to 5 watt consumption is typical. See the monitor
instruction booklet for a more precise accounting.

 

[Ant]

In flashing yellow mode, the monitor is "snoozing", but not totally
powered down. 3 to 5 watt consumption is typical. See the monitor
instruction booklet for a more precise accounting.

Mine blinks (every two seconds) green lights during snoozing mode (after
two hours of idleness).

I looked at the monitor's thick Getting Started manual (includes many
foreign languages), and it mentioned nothing about power saving modes.
How dumb.

I did notice the manual said monitor driver and even a CD-ROM is
included for it. I do recall installing it years ago, but I noticed
Windows XP said "Default Monitor (winseset) on ALL-IN-WONDER 9800
SERIES" (dated 11/11/2002 from MS). Do you think this is a problem?
Also, I forgot to mention that I use a Belkin KVM (2-ports) but I don't
think this should be a problem.

The monitor does work well and does sleep. It does take a while to come
back from its snooze mode as if I turned it off.
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[dev]

/Ant/ said:

Mine blinks (every two seconds) green lights during snoozing mode (after
two hours of idleness).

I looked at the monitor's thick Getting Started manual (includes many
foreign languages), and it mentioned nothing about power saving modes.
How dumb.

I did notice the manual said monitor driver and even a CD-ROM is
included for it. I do recall installing it years ago, but I noticed
Windows XP said "Default Monitor (winseset) on ALL-IN-WONDER 9800
SERIES" (dated 11/11/2002 from MS). Do you think this is a problem?
Also, I forgot to mention that I use a Belkin KVM (2-ports) but I don't
think this should be a problem.

The monitor does work well and does sleep. It does take a while to come
back from its snooze mode as if I turned it off.

Strikes me as normal operation...and what I see here when monitor awakens.

 

[Ant]

Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still

Mine blinks (every two seconds) green lights during snoozing mode (after
two hours of idleness).

I looked at the monitor's thick Getting Started manual (includes many
foreign languages), and it mentioned nothing about power saving modes.
How dumb.

I did notice the manual said monitor driver and even a CD-ROM is
included for it. I do recall installing it years ago, but I noticed
Windows XP said "Default Monitor (winseset) on ALL-IN-WONDER 9800
SERIES" (dated 11/11/2002 from MS). Do you think this is a problem?
Also, I forgot to mention that I use a Belkin KVM (2-ports) but I don't
think this should be a problem.

The monitor does work well and does sleep. It does take a while to come
back from its snooze mode as if I turned it off.

One more thing: It is also hooked up to an APC UPS (Back-UPS 650), but
then I doubt this make a difference.
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[Ant]

Strikes me as normal operation...and what I see here when monitor awakens.

Yeah, it is. It is just the heat part sounds strange. I woke up and my
room was really warm. I touched the monitor's top (vents) and it was
warm. I fell asleep after midnight and woke up at about 5am. That should
be enough to cool down, don't you think? I have seen this happened a few
times in the past with monitoring going to sleep by itself. My room is
currently at about 77 degrees(F).

I found the PDF manual:
http://www.samsungusa.com/SamsungUSA/DOWNLOAD/20030104/765MB.pdf ... On
page 46, it says blinking green is in power-off mode EPA/ENERGY 2000 at
less than 2.6W. Weird.

Oh well, maybe I should just ignore it. :I
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[Richard Urban]

The monitor is only off when you physically press the on/off switch to turn
it off. Otherwise it is in power saving mode, and uses a small amount of
current to keep the filament of the CRT warmed up. This allows you to see
video a lot faster than if you were to turn the monitor fully off.

Hint: T.V. sets have had this feature for 20-30 years now. It's nothing new!
It used to be called "Instant On", when it was a new feature. Now they all
have it so it is not even mentioned any longer.

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[Vagabond Software]

I believe you are experiencing normal behavior. One thing you can do is go
to samsung's web-site and download the XP driver for your monitor. I've had
my current Sony CPD-200SX since 1996 and it produces heat when it sleeps.
My girlfriend's Dell monitor does the same thing. The home office is nice
and toastie in the morning...

- carl

 

[Ant]

I wouldn't worry about the monitor. There are many sources of heat, the
monitor is only one. A fast CPU can burn your hand, or start a fire
when not properly cooled. Athlon's run hotter than Pentiums. The
exhaust fans are constantly putting out warm air, that's their function.
The Radeon 9800 has a fan on it, that's because it runs hot. Do you
have a powered Subwoofer? If so, put your hand on it. My Klipsch can
heat a small room all by itself.

Yup Klispch ProMedia v2-400 (original ones). However, turning off
monitor vs. putting monitor to sleep makes a difference in my room
especially during the heat waves in Southern CA.

Also, open the case and thoroughly clean the dust from inside the
computer a couple times a year.

Yeah, I do this once a year or so every time I do a major computer
upgrade. Darn dust bunnies.
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