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I am currently upgrading my OS from Win 98SE to Win 2000. The installation
seems to be going fine, until it gets to the part where its 'preforming its
final tasks'. It gets to the part where it says its upgrading the program and
system settings, then it just reboots and setup restarts. It keeps going
around in circles. Any suggestions?
 
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Dave Patrick

Be advised that upgrades from win9x almost always fail for any number of
reasons. Save yourself some time and trouble, given that you'll more than
likely end up with an unstable OS with all the remnants/ corruption left
behind from the upgrade. Best to blow it all away and go for the clean
install.

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 CD-Rom or setup disks.
The set of four install disks can be created from your Win2k CD-rom; change
to the \bootdisk directory on the cd-rom and execute makeboot.exe (from dos)
or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the prompts.

When you get to the point, delete the existing NTFS and or other partitions
found. After you delete the partition(s) abort the install, then again
restart the pc booting the CD-Rom or setup disks to avoid unexpected drive
letter assignments with your new install.

During Windows 2000 setup, at some point, will want to confirm the previous
operating system for the upgrade; at that point you'll simply insert the
qualified product install CD for it to verify. Then the install will
proceed.

Check the pc, mb or hardware manufacturer's web site for the latest bios and
or Windows 2000 drivers for your devices.

Be sure to apply these to your new install before connecting to any network.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx


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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"Knoobley Bobbley"wrote:
|I am currently upgrading my OS from Win 98SE to Win 2000. The installation
| seems to be going fine, until it gets to the part where its 'preforming
its
| final tasks'. It gets to the part where it says its upgrading the program
and
| system settings, then it just reboots and setup restarts. It keeps going
| around in circles. Any suggestions?
 
D

Dave Patrick

You're welcome.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Thanks for the advice. It worked... After all, that I finally got it to
work...
|
 
G

Guest

To Dave Patrick:
Thanks for your input. I am in the process of upgrading from Win 98se to
Win 2000. I have downloaded or purchased most of the Win 2000 drivers for my
programs and am poised to install Win 2000 os. I even downloaded Win 2000
SP4.
I had been given to believe I could just overwrite the Win 98se, so your
advice is well taken to do a clean install. But I have a few questions.


I don't follow you when you say "Delete the NTFS and other partitions found".
What is NTFS?
Does the installation take you through an fdisk of the hard drive during
installation?
I have four partitions on my hard drive? Are you saying it is required that
I delete these partitions?

I will probably never need to connect to a network again, but just for my
own satisfaction, what are the three downloads you suggest be "be applied to
the install" before connecting to a network?

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Dave Patrick said:
Be advised that upgrades from win9x almost always fail for any number of
reasons. Save yourself some time and trouble, given that you'll more than
likely end up with an unstable OS with all the remnants/ corruption left
behind from the upgrade. Best to blow it all away and go for the clean
install.

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 CD-Rom or setup disks.
The set of four install disks can be created from your Win2k CD-rom; change
to the \bootdisk directory on the cd-rom and execute makeboot.exe (from dos)
or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the prompts.

When you get to the point, delete the existing NTFS and or other partitions
found. After you delete the partition(s) abort the install, then again
restart the pc booting the CD-Rom or setup disks to avoid unexpected drive
letter assignments with your new install.

During Windows 2000 setup, at some point, will want to confirm the previous
operating system for the upgrade; at that point you'll simply insert the
qualified product install CD for it to verify. Then the install will
proceed.

Check the pc, mb or hardware manufacturer's web site for the latest bios and
or Windows 2000 drivers for your devices.

Be sure to apply these to your new install before connecting to any network.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx


--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"Knoobley Bobbley"wrote:
|I am currently upgrading my OS from Win 98SE to Win 2000. The installation
| seems to be going fine, until it gets to the part where its 'preforming
its
| final tasks'. It gets to the part where it says its upgrading the program
and
| system settings, then it just reboots and setup restarts. It keeps going
| around in circles. Any suggestions?
 
D

Dave Patrick

:
| To Dave Patrick:
| Thanks for your input. I am in the process of upgrading from Win 98se to
| Win 2000. I have downloaded or purchased most of the Win 2000 drivers for
my
| programs and am poised to install Win 2000 os. I even downloaded Win 2000
| SP4.
| I had been given to believe I could just overwrite the Win 98se, so your
| advice is well taken to do a clean install. But I have a few questions.
|
|
| I don't follow you when you say "Delete the NTFS and other partitions
found".
| What is NTFS?
* NTFS is the native file system of Windows NT/2000/XP/2003 and is always
recomended.


| Does the installation take you through an fdisk of the hard drive during
| installation?
* The NT'ish operating systems don't use fdisk but yes you'll be given the
opportunity to manage partitions during the text mode portion of Windows
2000 setup.


| I have four partitions on my hard drive? Are you saying it is required
that
| I delete these partitions?
* You didn't mention the partition arrangement but I'll assume win9x is
installed to the system partition (first primary active partition and
usually C:\) If this is the case and it is a large enough partition then you
can choose to format-only this partition leaving your other partitions
alone. I wouldn't install Windows 2000 to a partition less than 5 gB in
size. 10 gB if you've got it.

**(fpn: always have backups on hand for anything you cannot afford to
lose.)**

| I will probably never need to connect to a network again,
* FYI internet=network

but just for my
| own satisfaction, what are the three downloads you suggest be "be applied
to
| the install" before connecting to a network?
* Click the links for details. Sasser, msblast, SP4


* In lieu of these you should now install SP4 then the rollup before
connecting to any network. The rollup contains the blaster/sasser patches.

SP4
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891861


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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
G

Guest

To Dave Patrick,

Thank you for your help. I made the four disks from the Win 2000 C D but the
Boot Disk doesn't boot up the computer. There seem to be no programs to boot
up.

NTdetect.com is the only program on the boot disk and it doesn't work.
I don't have NT on my PC. So that is why it won't work.
I am using win 98 se.

NTKRNLMP.EX_ is on the disk but it is shut off by not having a complete
..exe extension.

I can't get to the point of deleting the partitions.
So here I sit broken hearted paid a nickle and only @#?%. This is
frustrating.

I would assume the boot disk would have some kind of Oak Technology to
create a file which would let me use the CD. But I do not see anything like
that on the floppy.

BTW
Why do you suggest such a big partition for Win 2000?
Here is how I have my HD partitioned.
c is for OS
d is for programs
e is for data storage
f is empty to be used for editing video

Thank you in advance for your help,
Albert Bernard
=====================================================

Dave Patrick said:
:
| To Dave Patrick:
| Thanks for your input. I am in the process of upgrading from Win 98se to
| Win 2000. I have downloaded or purchased most of the Win 2000 drivers for
my
| programs and am poised to install Win 2000 os. I even downloaded Win 2000
| SP4.
| I had been given to believe I could just overwrite the Win 98se, so your
| advice is well taken to do a clean install. But I have a few questions.
|
|
| I don't follow you when you say "Delete the NTFS and other partitions
found".
| What is NTFS?
* NTFS is the native file system of Windows NT/2000/XP/2003 and is always
recomended.


| Does the installation take you through an fdisk of the hard drive during
| installation?
* The NT'ish operating systems don't use fdisk but yes you'll be given the
opportunity to manage partitions during the text mode portion of Windows
2000 setup.


| I have four partitions on my hard drive? Are you saying it is required
that
| I delete these partitions?
* You didn't mention the partition arrangement but I'll assume win9x is
installed to the system partition (first primary active partition and
usually C:\) If this is the case and it is a large enough partition then you
can choose to format-only this partition leaving your other partitions
alone. I wouldn't install Windows 2000 to a partition less than 5 gB in
size. 10 gB if you've got it.

**(fpn: always have backups on hand for anything you cannot afford to
lose.)**

| I will probably never need to connect to a network again,
* FYI internet=network

but just for my
| own satisfaction, what are the three downloads you suggest be "be applied
to
| the install" before connecting to a network?
* Click the links for details. Sasser, msblast, SP4


* In lieu of these you should now install SP4 then the rollup before
connecting to any network. The rollup contains the blaster/sasser patches.

SP4
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891861


--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
D

Dave Patrick

:
| To Dave Patrick,
|
| Thank you for your help. I made the four disks from the Win 2000 C D but
the
| Boot Disk doesn't boot up the computer. There seem to be no programs to
boot
| up.
* Something went haywire with the floppy creation.


| NTdetect.com is the only program on the boot disk and it doesn't work.
| I don't have NT on my PC. So that is why it won't work.
| I am using win 98 se.
|
| NTKRNLMP.EX_ is on the disk but it is shut off by not having a complete
| .exe extension.
|
| I can't get to the point of deleting the partitions.
| So here I sit broken hearted paid a nickle and only @#?%. This is
| frustrating.
|
| I would assume the boot disk would have some kind of Oak Technology to
| create a file which would let me use the CD. But I do not see anything
like
| that on the floppy.
* Much easier to boot the CD-Rom. Possibly set the boot order in cmos setup
to CD-Rom first in boot sequence. Also look for the keystroke (if necessary)
at POST to force boot from CD-Rom drive or check your mobo/pc manual for
instructions.



| BTW
| Why do you suggest such a big partition for Win 2000?
| Here is how I have my HD partitioned.
| c is for OS
| d is for programs
| e is for data storage
| f is empty to be used for editing video
* There's no advantage to installing programs to a separate partition.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 

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