install Xp on partion 2 when Partion 1 is damaged

[adi]

My problem is like this, i have Xp pro installed on a SATA drive which is
having 2 partitions as C: and D:, size of disk is 80 GB

Xp is installed on C Both system and Boot partition are same)

Recently I started having a lot of chkdsk error while satrting the machine
and while using it also, It appeared that volume has got corrupted or
developed surface defects.

I reinstalled the Xp on Same partition by deleting the partion C:\ but
problem reappeaed again.

So I decided to install xp on partion 2 (i.e D:\) on my system during the
installation using OS Cd

I observed that althoug h i had selected partition 2 during installation
,but xp's setup program first start formatting drive C:\ and since unable to
format it (Due to surface defects dispalyas a message) installation could not
be continued.

To resolve this problem,During installation when setup asks you to choose
and create partion i deleted the First partition, and then tried the
installation, i met with the same error Partition are not iwhich xp can
understand and again prompted to create partition 1 and then format it. No
luck

Thinking that (and guessing too) whole of my Partion1 will not be damaged so
in the next setup I created a 5 GB, 40Gb,30GB partitions and selected
Partitions 3 (i.e 30 GB) during installation, again the xp setup program
first went to format 5 GB partition , but this time this portion of disk was
healthy so it was formatted sucessfully ,

After formatting 5GB partition setup went on to format my 30 GB partion and
xp was finally installed, and I thiught that I had made good use of disk space

The real problem started here when i went in disk management i found C5
GB) was listed as system partition and E30 Gb) as boot partition.

since i dont want to run system on failing disk partion i thought to make
E:\930 Gb) as system partition

i used the diskpart to make it active and made the C5GB) partition as
inactive and copied the boot.ini and ntdetect and ntldr to E: partion and
tried to boot
the machine surprisingly my machine didnot started.

thinking that boot record are not written properly i used recovery console
to run fixboot E:\

No result,

when i tried to run fixmbr I meeted a warning MBR on your disk is not
standard writing a new MBR will make your partitions inacessible( why and how
the nonstandard MBR came into the picture, from where this nonstandard MBR
came ?)

i also tried to run bootcfg /rebuild no sucess,

i again reinstalled xp using 5Gb,40 Gb, 30 Gb trick ( No Luck)

My qustion is if you have a say 80, or 160 Gb HDD and for some reason your
HD is damaged (primary partion) then there is no use of purchasing big size
disks
as setup creates one primary partition other as extended and logical partions

CAN SOMBODY TELL ME HOW TO MAKE MY E:\ PARTION AS SYSTEM PARTITION WITHOUT
REINSTALLING WINDOWS AGAIN,

Is it happening because of extended partion and logical partitions created
by setup

HOW TO CREATE PRIMARY PARTITION USING SETUP CD ( NOT USING ANY PE)

WILL CREATING A PRIMARY PARTITION USING SOME PE WILL HELP ME TO INSTALL XP
ON e: PARTITION WITH SYSTEM AND BOOT VOL AS SAME

 

[Ghostrider]

My problem is like this, i have Xp pro installed on a SATA drive which is
having 2 partitions as C: and D:, size of disk is 80 GB

Xp is installed on C Both system and Boot partition are same)

Recently I started having a lot of chkdsk error while satrting the machine
and while using it also, It appeared that volume has got corrupted or
developed surface defects.

I reinstalled the Xp on Same partition by deleting the partion C:\ but
problem reappeaed again.

So I decided to install xp on partion 2 (i.e D:\) on my system during the
installation using OS Cd

I observed that althoug h i had selected partition 2 during installation
,but xp's setup program first start formatting drive C:\ and since unable to
format it (Due to surface defects dispalyas a message) installation could not
be continued.

To resolve this problem,During installation when setup asks you to choose
and create partion i deleted the First partition, and then tried the
installation, i met with the same error Partition are not iwhich xp can
understand and again prompted to create partition 1 and then format it. No
luck

Thinking that (and guessing too) whole of my Partion1 will not be damaged so
in the next setup I created a 5 GB, 40Gb,30GB partitions and selected
Partitions 3 (i.e 30 GB) during installation, again the xp setup program
first went to format 5 GB partition , but this time this portion of disk was
healthy so it was formatted sucessfully ,

After formatting 5GB partition setup went on to format my 30 GB partion and
xp was finally installed, and I thiught that I had made good use of disk space

The real problem started here when i went in disk management i found C5
GB) was listed as system partition and E30 Gb) as boot partition.

since i dont want to run system on failing disk partion i thought to make
E:\930 Gb) as system partition

i used the diskpart to make it active and made the C5GB) partition as
inactive and copied the boot.ini and ntdetect and ntldr to E: partion and
tried to boot
the machine surprisingly my machine didnot started.

thinking that boot record are not written properly i used recovery console
to run fixboot E:\

No result,

when i tried to run fixmbr I meeted a warning MBR on your disk is not
standard writing a new MBR will make your partitions inacessible( why and how
the nonstandard MBR came into the picture, from where this nonstandard MBR
came ?)

i also tried to run bootcfg /rebuild no sucess,

i again reinstalled xp using 5Gb,40 Gb, 30 Gb trick ( No Luck)

My qustion is if you have a say 80, or 160 Gb HDD and for some reason your
HD is damaged (primary partion) then there is no use of purchasing big size
disks
as setup creates one primary partition other as extended and logical partions

CAN SOMBODY TELL ME HOW TO MAKE MY E:\ PARTION AS SYSTEM PARTITION WITHOUT
REINSTALLING WINDOWS AGAIN,

Is it happening because of extended partion and logical partitions created
by setup

HOW TO CREATE PRIMARY PARTITION USING SETUP CD ( NOT USING ANY PE)

WILL CREATING A PRIMARY PARTITION USING SOME PE WILL HELP ME TO INSTALL XP
ON e: PARTITION WITH SYSTEM AND BOOT VOL AS SAME

My understanding is that there is one physical SATA hard drive with
Drive C in the primary partition and Drive D as an extended partition.
Regardless of where Windows XP is going to be installed, it will need
the boot sector of Drive C. By definition, then, Drive C is the "boot"
partition because that is where the boot tracks, boot manager, etc.,
are located. Wherever the OS proper resides, be it Drive C, D or E,
then that becomes the "system" partition. (I think these are the proper
definitions.)

But getting specifically to your problem, the SATA drive is no longer
dependable. It should be replaced. Period. It does not matter whether
or not the physical hard drive has just one partition or is divided up
into partitions with logical drives. There are no dividends in doing
what you are attempting.

 

[Patrick Keenan]

My understanding is that there is one physical SATA hard drive with
Drive C in the primary partition and Drive D as an extended partition.
Regardless of where Windows XP is going to be installed, it will need
the boot sector of Drive C. By definition, then, Drive C is the "boot"
partition because that is where the boot tracks, boot manager, etc.,
are located. Wherever the OS proper resides, be it Drive C, D or E,
then that becomes the "system" partition. (I think these are the proper
definitions.)

But getting specifically to your problem, the SATA drive is no longer
dependable. It should be replaced. Period. It does not matter whether
or not the physical hard drive has just one partition or is divided up
into partitions with logical drives. There are no dividends in doing
what you are attempting.

I agree. This is perhaps an equivalent to "investing" in painting a car
with a very rusty chassis and damaged running gear. And where I am, 500
gig SATA drives are around $100, so it's not a huge expense to fix this
properly.

-pk

 

[Andy]

My problem is like this, i have Xp pro installed on a SATA drive which is
having 2 partitions as C: and D:, size of disk is 80 GB

Xp is installed on C Both system and Boot partition are same)

Recently I started having a lot of chkdsk error while satrting the machine
and while using it also, It appeared that volume has got corrupted or
developed surface defects.

I reinstalled the Xp on Same partition by deleting the partion C:\ but
problem reappeaed again.

So I decided to install xp on partion 2 (i.e D:\) on my system during the
installation using OS Cd

I observed that althoug h i had selected partition 2 during installation
,but xp's setup program first start formatting drive C:\ and since unable to
format it (Due to surface defects dispalyas a message) installation could not
be continued.

To resolve this problem,During installation when setup asks you to choose
and create partion i deleted the First partition, and then tried the
installation, i met with the same error Partition are not iwhich xp can
understand and again prompted to create partition 1 and then format it. No
luck

Thinking that (and guessing too) whole of my Partion1 will not be damaged so
in the next setup I created a 5 GB, 40Gb,30GB partitions and selected
Partitions 3 (i.e 30 GB) during installation, again the xp setup program
first went to format 5 GB partition , but this time this portion of disk was
healthy so it was formatted sucessfully ,

After formatting 5GB partition setup went on to format my 30 GB partion and
xp was finally installed, and I thiught that I had made good use of disk space

The real problem started here when i went in disk management i found C5
GB) was listed as system partition and E30 Gb) as boot partition.

since i dont want to run system on failing disk partion i thought to make
E:\930 Gb) as system partition

i used the diskpart to make it active and made the C5GB) partition as
inactive and copied the boot.ini and ntdetect and ntldr to E: partion and
tried to boot
the machine surprisingly my machine didnot started.

Did you set the motherboard BIOS to boot from the 1TB drive?