Instal XP in anothher PC

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Guest

I had a old PC who "died" last month, running with an original XP home
edition. I get an old PC from a friend, running Milenium ME. I wanted to
replace ME with XP, but microsoft shuts my PC down saying I'm using pirate
software. What cann I do?
It's original...
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Ramires said:
I had a old PC who "died" last month, running with an original XP home
edition. I get an old PC from a friend, running Milenium ME. I wanted to
replace ME with XP, but microsoft shuts my PC down saying I'm using pirate
software. What cann I do?
It's original...

What you fail to grasp/may not know is that the copy of Windows XP that was
'original' and running on the PC that 'died' (XP came installed on that now
dead PC - didn't it?) was an OEM copy. It belonged to the computer it was
installed upon and when that computer died, so did your right to utilize
that copy of Windows XP. It's one reason it was less expensive than a
retail version of Windows XP.

You must purchase an Upgrade or a Retail Full version to run on the 'new' PC
(if you don't want to lose stuff currently on it) --> or you can purchase
another OEM copy of Windows XP and install it with the new product key it
comes with... but being an OEM - you are getting into the same 'legal' boat
you were in previously.
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M

Mistoffolees

Ramires said:
I had a old PC who "died" last month, running with an original XP home
edition. I get an old PC from a friend, running Milenium ME. I wanted to
replace ME with XP, but microsoft shuts my PC down saying I'm using pirate
software. What cann I do?
It's original...

It's an "original"...probably limited to be installed on just the
machine in which it came, as would be an branded OEM-version of XP
that is also bios-locked. Or it came in the form of a "recovery"
disc. So long as it is an OEM version, then that particular XP key
expired with the PC that had died.

Nothing else to do except purchase a retail version of Windows XP
Home Edition, Upgrade.
 
G

Guest

Thank you for your prompt answer... no, it's not a OEM version, I bought it.
My died computer had a ME OEM version and I changed it to a XP
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Ramires said:
I had a old PC who "died" last month, running with an original XP home
edition. I get an old PC from a friend, running Milenium ME. I wanted to
replace ME with XP, but microsoft shuts my PC down saying I'm using pirate
software. What cann I do? It's original...

Shenan said:
What you fail to grasp/may not know is that the copy of Windows XP that
was
'original' and running on the PC that 'died' (XP came installed on that
now
dead PC - didn't it?) was an OEM copy. It belonged to the computer it was
installed upon and when that computer died, so did your right to utilize
that copy of Windows XP. It's one reason it was less expensive than a
retail version of Windows XP.

You must purchase an Upgrade or a Retail Full version to run on the 'new'
PC
(if you don't want to lose stuff currently on it) --> or you can purchase
another OEM copy of Windows XP and install it with the new product key it
comes with... but being an OEM - you are getting into the same 'legal'
boat
you were in previously.
It's an "original"...probably limited to be installed on just the
machine in which it came, as would be an branded OEM-version of XP
that is also bios-locked. Or it came in the form of a "recovery"
disc. So long as it is an OEM version, then that particular XP key
expired with the PC that had died.

Nothing else to do except purchase a retail version of Windows XP
Home Edition, Upgrade.
Thank you for your prompt answer... no, it's not a OEM version, I bought
it.
My died computer had a ME OEM version and I changed it to a XP


Your 'buying it' does not exclude it from being an OEM.

You can buy OEM copies. They are usually cheaper - do not have fancy
packaging (usually cellophane and cardboard backing) and come with a sticker
you can put on your computer/etc.

A retail copy, on the other hand - comes in a 'jewel' case and has 'pretty
packaging' and costs significantly more.

If you did get a retail and it is coming up bogus... well - just how is it
coming up bogus - you haven't fully explained that. Is this a WGA message
you are getting?
 
G

Gordon

Shenan said:
Ramires wrote:
What you fail to grasp/may not know is that the copy of Windows XP that was
'original' and running on the PC that 'died' (XP came installed on that now
dead PC - didn't it?) was an OEM copy. It belonged to the computer it was
installed upon and when that computer died, so did your right to utilize
that copy of Windows XP. It's one reason it was less expensive than a
retail version of Windows XP.

The *ONLY* reason that OEM copies are less expensive than retail is that
support is done by the OEM vendor, not MS. That is no reason in law why
the purchaser should not be able to transfer a legally-purchased OEM
version from one machine to another.
 
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Ken Blake

The *ONLY* reason that OEM copies are less expensive than retail is that
support is done by the OEM vendor, not MS.


I don't agree with that at all. There are several reasons. Yours is one, and
Shenan's is another.

That is no reason in law why the purchaser should not be able to transfer
a legally-purchased OEM version from one machine to another.


The reason is simply that you buy a license to use the product and the
license comes with certain rules and restrictions. OEM licenses come with a
different set of rules and restrictions than do retail licenses.

I wish there were only a single type of license with the same rules for
everyone, but unfortunately Microsoft gets to make the rules, not me.
 
G

Gordon

Ken said:
I don't agree with that at all. There are several reasons. Yours is one, and
Shenan's is another.

The argument that "it belongs to the machine that it is first installed
on so that's a reason for it being cheaper" is tenuous in the extreme!
Motor parts are far cheaper when first fitted to a new car but the owner
is not "forced" to buy new and more expensive parts instead of moving
the (cheaper) OEM parts to another vehicle....
 
K

Ken Blake

The argument that "it belongs to the machine that it is first installed on
so that's a reason for it being cheaper" is tenuous in the extreme!


In my opinion, you are mixing up your view of what *should be* with what is.
Anything that comes with restrictions on its use at a lower price works as
an incentive to sell you the higher-priced product without the restrictions.
That *is* one of the reasons Microsoft prices Retail Versions higher.

Motor parts are far cheaper when first fitted to a new car but the owner
is not "forced" to buy new and more expensive parts instead of moving the
(cheaper) OEM parts to another vehicle....


Glad to hear it. ;-)
I'm not arguing in favor of the two-tier pricing and restriction system. As
I said in the message to which you responded, I wish it didn't exist.

Alo note that car manufacturers sell you you the actual parts, not a license
to use them, as does Microsoft with Windows, so it would be very difficult
for them to do anything like this.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Gordon said:
The *ONLY* reason that OEM copies are less expensive than retail is that
support is done by the OEM vendor, not MS.


Nonsense. That's the very least important reason. The primary reason
for the lower cost is the lack of transferability.

That is no reason in law why
the purchaser should not be able to transfer a legally-purchased OEM
version from one machine to another.


You mean, other than the computer user's having agreed in a legally
binding contract not to do so?



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Bruce Chambers

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