Ink jet printed documents with signature problem

[mikesmithv]

Here's one you probably have not hear before. We printed our US tax
return (1040 form) on our Canon S600 ink jet (standard Canon
cartridge), signed it and sent it in. Yesterday we got a letter from
the IRS saying that our tax forms did not show an "original
signature". It was a joint return which means my wife and I both
signed it and we both clearly remember doing so, but the only thing I
can think of is that we used a so-called jel pen. So we were
essentially signing an ink jet document with pen using ink-jet ink, so
how can the IRS tell this not a photocopy printed on an ink jet
printer? Has anyone heard of a problem with signing ink jet printed
documents with liquid-ink pens? We will probably just do what the IRS
says and be done with it but I would like some verification that we
are not both simultaneously loosing our minds!

 

[Kevin]

Here's one you probably have not hear before. We printed our US tax
return (1040 form) on our Canon S600 ink jet (standard Canon
cartridge), signed it and sent it in. Yesterday we got a letter from
the IRS saying that our tax forms did not show an "original
signature". It was a joint return which means my wife and I both
signed it and we both clearly remember doing so, but the only thing I
can think of is that we used a so-called jel pen. So we were
essentially signing an ink jet document with pen using ink-jet ink, so
how can the IRS tell this not a photocopy printed on an ink jet
printer? Has anyone heard of a problem with signing ink jet printed
documents with liquid-ink pens? We will probably just do what the IRS
says and be done with it but I would like some verification that we
are not both simultaneously loosing our minds!

I've never heard of such a thing! But, leave it to the IRS to hassle you
until hell freezes over about it.

 

[Chuck]

The IRS got a little more picky concerning computer printed returns.
Some of the on line returns are marked do not submit, not machine readable.

This is interesting, because the forms I submit are all hand signed, usually
with a ball point pen.

 

[mikesmithv]

The IRS got a little more picky concerning computer printed returns.
Some of the on line returns are marked do not submit, not machine readable.

This is interesting, because the forms I submit are all hand signed, usually
with a ball point pen.

From now on I'm using a ball point pen and I'm pressing hard enough to

leave a dent in the paper so there is no mistake. Having the pen ink
be a different color than the printout might have helped too. The tax
software was H&R Block's TaxCut which supposedly prints to the IRS
specification so that should not have been a problem.

 

[Irwin Peckinloomer]

Here's one you probably have not hear before. We printed our US tax
return (1040 form) on our Canon S600 ink jet (standard Canon
cartridge), signed it and sent it in. Yesterday we got a letter from
the IRS saying that our tax forms did not show an "original
signature". It was a joint return which means my wife and I both
signed it and we both clearly remember doing so, but the only thing I
can think of is that we used a so-called jel pen. So we were
essentially signing an ink jet document with pen using ink-jet ink, so
how can the IRS tell this not a photocopy printed on an ink jet
printer? Has anyone heard of a problem with signing ink jet printed
documents with liquid-ink pens? We will probably just do what the IRS
says and be done with it but I would like some verification that we
are not both simultaneously loosing our minds!

I have often sent inkjet copies of my IRS forms, including signatures ie
I do my forms in pencil, sign them, scan them, then send inkjet copies.
Of course, the fact that I've gotten away with this probably means
nothing, just that they didn't check it, but my first response would be:
Where does it say I can't do it this way?
(but then that's always my response to people in authority, but not
maybe too smart!)
I still think they should just stick it up their asses if they don't
like it, after all they work for you, not vice-versa.

 

[Arthur Entlich]

If you are sure your signatures were hand written, and no one
photocopied the result or accidentally sent in the wrong copy (like the
ones you meant to retain which may have been photocopies) I would
justtell them the signatures are authentic originals.

I use gel black ink pens also (up here in Canada Zebra brand are great)
and the result is a rich almost velvety color, but it's still an
original made by hand, and I'd tell them so.

Art

 

[Kevin]

If you are sure your signatures were hand written, and no one photocopied
the result or accidentally sent in the wrong copy (like the ones you meant
to retain which may have been photocopies) I would justtell them the
signatures are authentic originals.

I use gel black ink pens also (up here in Canada Zebra brand are great)
and the result is a rich almost velvety color, but it's still an original
made by hand, and I'd tell them so.

Art

Be glad you don't have to deal with the IRS. They have no sense of humor
and are virtually impossible to reason with. If they decide your signature
is not original, simply telling them it is will get you nothing if not an
automatic audit.

 

[Arthur Entlich]

I spent the 1st half of my life in the US and dealt with the good ol'
IRS for about 10 years before leaving. I do recall them being rather
inflexible and illogical as well, so you have a point.

I'm surprised they haven't made them part of HomeLandSecurity. In fact,
come to think of it, they are probably more frightening. ;-)

Art

 

[Nicolaas Hawkins]

I spent the 1st half of my life in the US and dealt with the good ol'
IRS for about 10 years before leaving. I do recall them being rather
inflexible and illogical as well, so you have a point.

I'm surprised they haven't made them part of HomeLandSecurity. In fact,
come to think of it, they are probably more frightening. ;-)

Art

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