Indication of spyware/hacker?

M

Max

As soon as my computer boots up, my wireless D-link card "activity
light" starts flashing as if its sending and receiving information. I
don't have a firewall, and it flashes too much (all the time) to
simply be windows update. Any ideas what's going on? It has me
spooked.
thanks,
Max


p.s.
I've run these spyware programs: spybot, ad-aware, cwshredder,
spywareguard, bazooka, spyware blaster, swat it!. I've done an AVG
scan and the Panda virus scan, and have come up with nothing.
 
S

Steven L Umbach

If two virus scans show that your computer is clean, you probably do not have a
problem. There is a lot going on when a computer first starts up such as registering
itself on the network, communicating with the DHCP server if you are using one, and
maybe some of your programs updating themselves as my Norton does when I boot up my
laptop. However I would strongly recommend that you use a firewall. Zone Alarm is a
free for personal use and fairly easy to configure firewall. -- Steve


http://www.snapfiles.com/Freeware/security/fwfirewall.html
 
A

andy smart

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J

Jeff Cochran

As soon as my computer boots up, my wireless D-link card "activity
light" starts flashing as if its sending and receiving information. I
don't have a firewall...

You just hit the issue on the head there. A firewall would both
protect you, and log activity so you would know what was going on.

Jeff
 
M

Max

Steven L Umbach said:
If two virus scans show that your computer is clean, you probably do not have a
problem. There is a lot going on when a computer first starts up such as registering
itself on the network, communicating with the DHCP server if you are using one, and
maybe some of your programs updating themselves as my Norton does when I boot up my
laptop.

The problem is that this activity light continues flashing long after
startup, and goes on indefinitely. I actually do have a firewall
built into my home router - I meant to say that I don't have a
software firewall.

However, I just installed Sygate's firewall (thank you for the
website) and set it to block ALL incoming and outgoing communication.
But according to netstat, there are still "listening" ports.

...and the activity light on the wireless card *still* flashes!

Is this normal?

-m
 
S

Steven L Umbach

OK. Glad to hear you have a firewall. I have noticed on my wireless card that there
is light activity even when their is no apparent activity which can be normal as I
believe it is a heartbeat type signal [for lack of better term] that may not actually
involve network data transmission. Sygate has extensive built in logging so I would
take a look at it's logs for more info. It is normal to have listening ports
depending on computer configuration. If you are not offering shares to other
computers on the network you can enable file and print sharing. The firewall blocks
access to those ports but you can only disable them by disabling the service or
application using them. Try using the free TCPView utility from SysInternals which
will give you a GUI of port use and the associated process/executable. Also run the
Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer on your computer and it will warn you about
possibly unneeded services. Typically Windows 2000 has a lot of services installed a
user may not need such as messenger, alerter, telnet, and web server. --- Steve

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/tcpview.shtml
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/mbsahome.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx -- Microsoft basic
security procedures.
 
G

Guest

Thank you for the reference to Microsoft Baseline
Security - I definately want to get rid of some services
from this fresh install of Windows 2000 I did the other
day. I too had constant internet activity upon installing
Windows 2000 (not an upgrade - but a new install). So I
got all the security packs and updates installed and it
stopped SVC.HOST from flipping out and getting on the
net. It didn't stop other things though. My DSL link
light flashes like a Banshee when I power this thing up.

Sooooo.......I installed Panda Virus protection and tried
a couple of firewalls. You can get Panda for a free 30
day trial. I tried Sygate's free firewall but personally
preferred the free firewall called Previx. It will trace
back a connection and tell you the host and domain name of
a possible rogue connection getting into your computer.
It does this without much effort or understanding on our
part. Boy, was I suprised to see what was going on behind
the scenes!

1. Panda keeps finding viruses infecting my windows
system files.
2. These infected files immediately go and access hosts
on the internet at about 150 KPS (hence the Banshee light
on the DSL hub).
3. The filewall and virus software do a wonderful job of
catching these buggers, and killing them, yet it still
keeps happening. I managed to get the Previx firewall to
keep at bay most of this crap coming and going and the DSL
Banshee light calmed down a bit.

So that's where I'm at. Whenever I power this thing up
now I am fully expecting it to try and access the internet
and for my programs to keep it from doing that. Any help
from you all out there concerning this would be nice. I
am in the position (and am currently willing)too perform
another fresh install.

About activity on your hub or wireless router or whatever
you have. If it's constant and you didn't initiate a
download yourself, you have an intruder accessing your
files. Normally, this link light will only flash
periodically. Network services must periodically
broadcast there address and update their router tables
held in memory. Again, these should be sporadic flashes -
not something constant and potentially dangerous. If
anyone can help with the virus issue - Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
OK. Glad to hear you have a firewall. I have noticed on my wireless card that there
is light activity even when their is no apparent activity which can be normal as I
believe it is a heartbeat type signal [for lack of better term] that may not actually
involve network data transmission. Sygate has extensive built in logging so I would
take a look at it's logs for more info. It is normal to have listening ports
depending on computer configuration. If you are not offering shares to other
computers on the network you can enable file and print sharing. The firewall blocks
access to those ports but you can only disable them by disabling the service or
application using them. Try using the free TCPView
utility from SysInternals which
will give you a GUI of port use and the associated
process/executable. Also run the
 
S

Steven L Umbach

Ouch. You have an infected computer. You can try some tools to fix the problem but a
fresh install would probably be your best bet and shortest path to success. Two
things to try are to scan for parasites with something like AdAware and another anti
virus program being sure to use the most current definitions for both. Trend Micro
has a free tool called Sysclean and a pattern file in the links below. Download both
to the same folder and run from the folder.

http://www.trendmicro.com/download/dcs.asp
http://www.trendmicro.com/download/pattern.asp
http://www.diamondcs.com.au/ -- free download for trojan scan.

If you decide to reinstall to a formatted drive see the link below to make sure you
are following minimum security procedures.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

In addition for any new install be sure to not connect to the internet until a
firewall is protecting you. I believe you said you had a router. If so go to
http://scan.sygatetech.com/ to do a self scan to se if your firewall is properly
configured to protect your network. The first thing to do after a fresh install is to
go to Windows Update and install first the latest service pack and then all critical
updates at no more than around seven at a time. Many infections come through email
attachments so be sure your virus protection scans all emails no matter who they come
from. The other security area that is important is Internet Explorer security
settings. The link below has recommendations for security settings that will go a
long way to protecting your computer while allowing fairly convenient browsing.
Always be sure to scan a freshly installed operating system if you have restored any
data to it and try to scan your data files before restoring. Lastly go to Newegg or
such and buy Norton SystemWorks Pro OEM for like $20. In addition to antivirus it
includes Ghost which allows you to quickly make an image of your operating system
partition and restore it is even quicker [about a 2gig a minute on my AMD 1800 ] .
This can save anyone a lot of grief. I keep a Ghost image of my operating system
partition on a separate partition of my hard drive and a copy burned to a DVD. My
operating system partition is 6 gigs. I have my operating system [ XP Pro] and major
applications installed on it and use other disk partitions for media files and other
junk. --- Steve

http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=32-108-117&DEPA=6 --- a $4
mouse satisfies the hardware requirement if you do not need anything else.


Thank you for the reference to Microsoft Baseline
Security - I definately want to get rid of some services
from this fresh install of Windows 2000 I did the other
day. I too had constant internet activity upon installing
Windows 2000 (not an upgrade - but a new install). So I
got all the security packs and updates installed and it
stopped SVC.HOST from flipping out and getting on the
net. It didn't stop other things though. My DSL link
light flashes like a Banshee when I power this thing up.

Sooooo.......I installed Panda Virus protection and tried
a couple of firewalls. You can get Panda for a free 30
day trial. I tried Sygate's free firewall but personally
preferred the free firewall called Previx. It will trace
back a connection and tell you the host and domain name of
a possible rogue connection getting into your computer.
It does this without much effort or understanding on our
part. Boy, was I suprised to see what was going on behind
the scenes!

1. Panda keeps finding viruses infecting my windows
system files.
2. These infected files immediately go and access hosts
on the internet at about 150 KPS (hence the Banshee light
on the DSL hub).
3. The filewall and virus software do a wonderful job of
catching these buggers, and killing them, yet it still
keeps happening. I managed to get the Previx firewall to
keep at bay most of this crap coming and going and the DSL
Banshee light calmed down a bit.

So that's where I'm at. Whenever I power this thing up
now I am fully expecting it to try and access the internet
and for my programs to keep it from doing that. Any help
from you all out there concerning this would be nice. I
am in the position (and am currently willing)too perform
another fresh install.

About activity on your hub or wireless router or whatever
you have. If it's constant and you didn't initiate a
download yourself, you have an intruder accessing your
files. Normally, this link light will only flash
periodically. Network services must periodically
broadcast there address and update their router tables
held in memory. Again, these should be sporadic flashes -
not something constant and potentially dangerous. If
anyone can help with the virus issue - Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
OK. Glad to hear you have a firewall. I have noticed on my wireless card that there
is light activity even when their is no apparent activity which can be normal as I
believe it is a heartbeat type signal [for lack of better term] that may not actually
involve network data transmission. Sygate has extensive built in logging so I would
take a look at it's logs for more info. It is normal to have listening ports
depending on computer configuration. If you are not offering shares to other
computers on the network you can enable file and print sharing. The firewall blocks
access to those ports but you can only disable them by disabling the service or
application using them. Try using the free TCPView
utility from SysInternals which
will give you a GUI of port use and the associated
process/executable. Also run the
Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer on your computer and it will warn you about
possibly unneeded services. Typically Windows 2000 has a lot of services installed a
user may not need such as messenger, alerter, telnet, and web server. --- Steve

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/tcpview.shtml
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/mbsahome.m spx
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a spx -- Microsoft basic
security procedures.




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