I'M IN XP HELL!

[Guest]

Does anyone else miss their WindowsMe? It didn't crash, never ran out of
memory, no freezing... I could go on and on, but the question is : Is the
difference in the file systems the reason? FAT32 v/s NTFS? If so, can XP be
set up on FAT32 system and is it hard to do?

 

[Cymbal Man Freq.]

| Does anyone else miss their WindowsMe? It didn't crash, never ran out of
| memory, no freezing... I could go on and on, but the question is : Is the
| difference in the file systems the reason? FAT32 v/s NTFS? If so, can XP be
| set up on FAT32 system and is it hard to do?

ME always ran out of resources for me. Couldn't do printjobs because it needed
1% more than was available. XP has performed far and away much better,
especially when doing large backups. NTFS allows bigger folder sizes and smaller
cluster sizes.

XP can be installed on FAT 32, but others say that brings instability into the
OS. Give it a try, you can convert to NTFS later on, once XP is already
installed on FAT 32.

 

[John Waller]

Did you clean install XP on your current system or did you do an upgrade
install from ME?

I've yet to see an unstable XP that was clean installed.

 

[Gordon]

Does anyone else miss their WindowsMe? It didn't crash, never ran out of
memory, no freezing... I could go on and on, but the question is : Is the
difference in the file systems the reason? FAT32 v/s NTFS? If so, can XP
be
set up on FAT32 system and is it hard to do?

Interesting. XP has never crashed, frozen or run out of memory on my
machines, even one that was designed for W98, which I upgraded both HDD and
RAM on to a suitable level. . I presume that you installed XP on the machine
you ran ME on? Did you check that the specs were actually UP to running XP?
(And don't go by the specs on the MS site, they are HOPELESSLY inadequate).

 

[Richard Urban]

If your computer is not capable for Windows XP then Windows ME may, in fact,
be better for you (bite my tongue).

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Gordon]

If your computer is not capable for Windows XP then Windows ME may, in
fact, be better for you (bite my tongue).

ROTFL!

 

[MicroFox]

XP is the best operating system microsoft ever made
Win ME was the worst
Vista is going to be worse than Win ME

 

[MicroFox]

cut it off would be better..

win ME has gone down in history as the worse contraption Microsoft ever made

 

[Galen]

In Richard Urban had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

If your computer is not capable for Windows XP then Windows ME may,
in fact, be better for you (bite my tongue).

I haven't seen such accurate satire since reading Douglas Adams.

And yes, yes I still have a box or two with ME on it kicking around here.
'Course you probably have read that already in another post and another
time. I still wouldn't want them to bring it back as opposed to XP... No no
no.

Well, then again, being able to accomplish things from outside the OS
without third party tools was nice. <g>

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/ http://kgiii.info/

"Chance has put in our way a most singular and whimsical problem, and
its solution is its own reward." - Sherlock Holmes

 

[Richard Urban]

I have Windows ME in a virtual machine, and there it will stay.

It is for those extremely rare occasions that some poor, misguided soul
needs my assistance. I have so totally blocked this abominable operating
system out of my mine that I may need a refresher to assist them.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Tim Slattery]

Does anyone else miss their WindowsMe? It didn't crash, never ran out of
memory, no freezing... I could go on and on, but the question is : Is the
difference in the file systems the reason? FAT32 v/s NTFS? If so, can XP be
set up on FAT32 system and is it hard to do?

The difference in file systems is definitely not the reason you're
having problems. NTFS is *much* more robust and resistant to errors
than FAT32. And XP is considerably more crash-resistant than ME.

XP can certainly run with FAT32 partitions, no problem there. But that
won't help whatever problems you're having.

 

[John John]

Performance wise it won't make much of any difference if you install XP
on a FAT32 file system. My guess is one of the following:

1- You upgraded Windows ME to Windows XP (as opposed to clean install)
and the results of the upgrade are less than spectacular.

2- Your computer is too underpowered to properly run Windows XP. Maybe
you should install Windows 2000 instead of XP... or stick with Windows Me.

John

 

[M]

Does anyone else miss their WindowsMe? It didn't crash, never ran out of
memory, no freezing... I could go on and on, but the question is : Is the
difference in the file systems the reason? FAT32 v/s NTFS? If so, can XP
be
set up on FAT32 system and is it hard to do?

I had a similar problem with a Windows 98 machine which I upgraded to XP.
The problem turned out to be a substandard IDE cable which when replaced
fixed the problem. It seems that Windows 98 is more tolerant of shoddy
hardware!

 

[Cymbal Man Freq.]

| Did you clean install XP on your current system or did you do an upgrade
| install from ME?
|
| I've yet to see an unstable XP that was clean installed.
|
| --
| Regards
|
| John Waller
|

I added a 2nd HDD and used an XP Home Upgrade CD to do a clean NTFS install on
the 2nd HDD. It needed a disc from Dell to verify about Win Me.It took me about
80 hours of work in the first week to install most everything XP-related and
customize 5 User Profiles. That included installing up to date BIOS firmware &
video & soundcard drivers, a printer, a scanner, NSW 2005, Office 2003, a
firewall, and various other preferred programs. This didn't include the time I
spent reading large parts of a book or two prior (about 400+ pages total) to and
after installation to acquaint myself with the OS enough to get it going from
off of the ground.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Does anyone else miss their WindowsMe? It didn't crash, never ran out of
memory, no freezing...

Had you verified that all of your PC's hardware components were
capable of supporting WinXP? This information will be found at the PC's
manufacturer's web site, and on Microsoft's Windows Catalog:
(http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx)

You should also have taken a few minutes to ensure that there are
WinXP-specific device drivers available for all of the machine's
components. There may not be, if the PC was specifically designed for
Win98/Me. Also bear in mind that PCs designed for, sold and run fine
with Win9x/Me very often do not meet WinXP's much more stringent
hardware *quality* requirements. This is particularly true of many
models in Compaq's consumer-class Presario product line or HP's
consumer-class Pavilion product line. WinXP, like WinNT and Win2K
before it, is quite sensitive to borderline defective or substandard
hardware (particularly motherboards, RAM and hard drives) that will
still support Win9x.

HOW TO Prepare to Upgrade Win98 or WinMe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316639

Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm

HOW TO Troubleshoot Windows XP Problems During Installation When You
Upgrade from Windows 98 or Windows Me
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q310064

I could go on and on, but the question is : Is the
difference in the file systems the reason? FAT32 v/s NTFS?

Not likely. NTFS is superior to FAT32, by far.

If so, can XP be
set up on FAT32 system ....

Yes, if you want no security, fault protection, and less stability...

.... and is it hard to do?

Not particularly. Simply format the hard drive as FAT32 and reinstall
WinXP.


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Bruce Chambers

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