IE7 broke my network. (.mdb files etc.)

[Fishman >]

If someone truly knows and is not juvenile they wouldn't play little games
like that. I was in the Techbeta and have used Vista from the beginning.
I know about it good points and bad points.

Absolutly amazed you're using it then.
Trade extra eye candy for reduced performance and problems.
Why bother?

 

[GSV Three Minds in a Can]

"GSV Three Minds in a Can"wrote


Never said Vista doesn't have any bugs, but it does run great on this
system. Are you running it? Were you in the TechBeta? Were you in
the beta newsgroups?

Please READ ALL THE WORDS .. as I said I can't comment on it, it's got
nothing I need, and thus No, I was not in the Beta. The only thing I
beta test for fun is games.

All software has bugs, no matter how long it's been available. I took
exception to the blanket statement that Vista is of no value until
after SP1.

Yep, except that comment wasn't from me.

Resorting to name calling is the province of the weak.

As in 'Anyone who uses the M$ designation or b*stardizes a name shows
how juvenile ', hmm, who said that?? Oh wait, it was you, wasn't it.

 

[gort]

I pity you. I suppose you're an MCSE (Must Ask Someone Else) as well?

Nah, cant be. They always tell you they are before anything else.

Dave

 

[Schrodinger's cat]

I pity you. I suppose you're an MCSE (Must Ask Someone Else) as well?

Must Cask Someone Else?

 

[V Green]

Must Cask Someone Else?

Must Consult Someone Else?

 

[Rock]

"Rock" wrote

Absolutly amazed you're using it then.
Trade extra eye candy for reduced performance and problems.
Why bother?

If you think all Vista is about is eye candy then you know nothing about it.

 

[Rock]

Rock said


As in 'Anyone who uses the M$ designation or b*stardizes a name shows how
juvenile ', hmm, who said that?? Oh wait, it was you, wasn't it.
----------

Saying behavior is juvenile is a characterization, not name calling. There
is a difference.

 

[Rock]

Rock writes


I pity you. I suppose you're an MCSE (Must Ask Someone Else) as well?

ps. the Ford Edsel and Pinto "ran great" too.

At least my statements about Vista come from experience with it. Yours are
just mindless mouthings of others. No, I'm not an MCSE, not that it matters
either way.

 

[Trevor Best]

Yeah right, that's a recipe for total confusion and utter disaster,
since you have to keep the 'front end' copies consistent on all the
different machines.

It's not difficult to manage, I use a small VB app that checks a version
number stored in a master copy on the network and if that is greater
than the local one it simply copies it down.

You can get similar here http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/autofe.htm

I'd still like to know why Access is so paranoid about a remote
database, whereas excel(?), word etc. have no problem opening a remote
file, which could be equally stuffed full of wicked VBA code.

There's just different levels of paranoia, Word for instance... enable
macros, mail merge doc... you are about to run the following SQL "select
* from mydatafile.dat" are you sure? Dunno if Access is any more
paranoid than any other application.

I know one thing for sure, IE7 is a PITA. On Win2003 it resets the home
page to the message about enhanced security and then doesn't let you in
to Windowsupdate site unless you add it even though it's already there.

 

[Chris Whelan]

Rock wrote:

[...]

I run Vista RTM Ultimate - in fact
this message is being composed in Windows Mail on it. It runs great.

http://tinyurl.com/ylpbse

Chris

 

[green]

it deinstalls thank god leaving you with "good old" IE6 - Hurrah !

use this as an excsue to dabble with firefox for the future

 

[Rock]

Rock wrote:

[...]

I run Vista RTM Ultimate - in fact
this message is being composed in Windows Mail on it. It runs great.

http://tinyurl.com/ylpbse

I have no idea what your link is about; I don't go to tiny url links not
knowing what they are. Thanks anyway.

 

[Chris Whelan]

Rock wrote:

[...]

I run Vista RTM Ultimate - in fact
this message is being composed in Windows Mail on it. It runs great.

http://tinyurl.com/ylpbse

I have no idea what your link is about; I don't go to tiny url links not
knowing what they are. Thanks anyway.

Why? Surely Vista is secure enough that you can take the risk

Chris

 

[Jaimie Vandenbergh]

Rock wrote:

[...]

I run Vista RTM Ultimate - in fact
this message is being composed in Windows Mail on it. It runs great.

http://tinyurl.com/ylpbse

I have no idea what your link is about; I don't go to tiny url links not
knowing what they are. Thanks anyway.

"Windows Vista includes an extensive reworking of core OS elements in
order to provide content protection for so-called "premium content",
typically HD data from Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sources. Providing this
protection incurs considerable costs in terms of system performance,
system stability, technical support overhead, and hardware and
software cost," and so on. Interesting study.

Cheers - Jaimie

 

[Rock]

Rock wrote:

[...]

I run Vista RTM Ultimate - in fact
this message is being composed in Windows Mail on it. It runs great.

http://tinyurl.com/ylpbse

I have no idea what your link is about; I don't go to tiny url links not
knowing what they are. Thanks anyway.

Why? Surely Vista is secure enough that you can take the risk

Lol..the most important part of security is common sense.

 

[Rock]

Rock wrote:

[...]

I run Vista RTM Ultimate - in fact
this message is being composed in Windows Mail on it. It runs great.

http://tinyurl.com/ylpbse

I have no idea what your link is about; I don't go to tiny url links not
knowing what they are. Thanks anyway.

"Windows Vista includes an extensive reworking of core OS elements in
order to provide content protection for so-called "premium content",
typically HD data from Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sources. Providing this
protection incurs considerable costs in terms of system performance,
system stability, technical support overhead, and hardware and
software cost," and so on. Interesting study.

The OS was reworked for many things. The changes are quite extensive, not
just eye candy as someone else suggested. In any event, I haven't seen any
issues of system performance, stability, technical support overhead and
hardware and software costs. Every new OS that has come out requires
changes to the software, some migrates fine, some needs to be rewritten.
The only software purchase I've made is for Raxco Perfect Disk at $19.95
(50% discount for those who beta tested their Vista candidate) for their new
version 8 that's Vista compatible. A new OS also ups the ante on hardware
needs. The media center functions that I have used in this Ultimate version
run fine. This system is middle of the road, some 5 years old, but still
running strong with 2.53 GHz P4, and 1GB PC800 Ram. Video Card is not Aero
Glass capable. Nothing fancy for sure. I don't use premium content,
Blu-Ray or HD-DVD.

 

[Jaimie Vandenbergh]

For me, there has to be some real advantages to switch.
So far I can't see any.

I was looking forward to it, up until April or so this year when MS
admitted they'd removed most of the technology that interested me. And
since I'm no longer (yes!!!) a Windows domain admin bloke, I'm merely
pleased that Vista is a lot more secure for the numpty home user.

I've pretty much moved to OS X instead. Suits me - a pretty and easy
to use UI coupled with a solid Unix OS. What geek could want more?

Damn shame it won't run on homebuilds (without excessive faffing).

Cheers - Jaimie

 

[Fishman >]

Rock wrote:

[...]

I run Vista RTM Ultimate - in fact
this message is being composed in Windows Mail on it. It runs great.

http://tinyurl.com/ylpbse

I have no idea what your link is about; I don't go to tiny url links not
knowing what they are. Thanks anyway.

"Windows Vista includes an extensive reworking of core OS elements in
order to provide content protection for so-called "premium content",
typically HD data from Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sources. Providing this
protection incurs considerable costs in terms of system performance,
system stability, technical support overhead, and hardware and
software cost," and so on. Interesting study.

The OS was reworked for many things. The changes are quite extensive,
not just eye candy as someone else suggested. In any event, I haven't
seen any issues of system performance, stability, technical support
overhead and hardware and software costs. Every new OS that has come out
requires changes to the software, some migrates fine, some needs to be
rewritten. The only software purchase I've made is for Raxco Perfect Disk
at $19.95 (50% discount for those who beta tested their Vista candidate)
for their new version 8 that's Vista compatible. A new OS also ups the
ante on hardware needs. The media center functions that I have used in
this Ultimate version run fine. This system is middle of the road, some 5
years old, but still running strong with 2.53 GHz P4, and 1GB PC800 Ram.
Video Card is not Aero Glass capable. Nothing fancy for sure. I don't
use premium content, Blu-Ray or HD-DVD.

It was me that suggested it gives you more eye candy and not much else.
You clearly have a different opinion.
Please tell - What extra have you found in Vista that is useful and is not
in XP?

When I tried it I found no extra features that were actually useful to me.
A few extra gizmos yes, but nothing particularly useful.
I also noticed slower prformance and less usable memory than I had with XP
on the same system.

Maybe it's more secure but who knows, perhaps that's because it isn't
targeted yet.

For me, there has to be some real advantages to switch.
So far I can't see any.

 

[Mike Tomlinson]

The OS was reworked for many things. The changes are quite extensive, not
just eye candy as someone else suggested.

Commendably vague. Do you work for Nicro$haft?

You really should open your mind and follow the TinyURL link given
earlier. It just might open your eyes.

The only changes of note in Fister are security "enhancements" (and
about bloody time, seeing as how many millions of compromised XP
machines are out there pumping spam into your inbox), moving the
graphics drivers out of Ring 0 of the kernel, and the prettified user
interface. That latter comes at the expense of a massively increased
memory foootprint and decreased stability.

What _is_ notable in Fister is the amount of promised improvements that
haven't made it into the final release, notably the "bowl of soup"
filing system, aka WinFS, and the underhanded imposition on the user of
the DRM infection.

There is NOTHING in Fister that couldn't have been implemented with a
service pack for WinXP. But of course, that wouldn't make any money for
Micro$hit, would it? - to they rely on lemmings like you to pony up for
the extra eye candy.

In any event, I haven't seen any
issues of system performance, stability, technical support overhead and
hardware and software costs.

Of _course_ not, dearie. I'm _so_ convinced.

Every new OS that has come out requires
changes to the software, some migrates fine, some needs to be rewritten.

Preferably that which will require the lemmings to pay up for "updates"
to Micro$not Office, etc.

A new OS also ups the ante on hardware
needs.

_Exactly_... you're beginning to realise what releases of new M$ OSen
are all about... the need to get the great unwashed to upgrade their
machines to cope with the eye candy and all the extra cruft running in
the background and to slyly work in DRM to boot. It _looks_ prettier,
sure, but you don't gain any additional useful functionality.

Face it, "Rock" - you've been taken for a mug. By the way, you were
going on about credibility earlier in the thread. Have you considered
how much credibility your anonymous posting ID confers on you?

Happy Christmas, mate.

 

[Rock]

Commendably vague. Do you work for Nicro$haft?

You really should open your mind and follow the TinyURL link given
earlier. It just might open your eyes.

The only changes of note in Fister are security "enhancements" (and
about bloody time, seeing as how many millions of compromised XP
machines are out there pumping spam into your inbox), moving the
graphics drivers out of Ring 0 of the kernel, and the prettified user
interface. That latter comes at the expense of a massively increased
memory foootprint and decreased stability.

What _is_ notable in Fister is the amount of promised improvements that
haven't made it into the final release, notably the "bowl of soup"
filing system, aka WinFS, and the underhanded imposition on the user of
the DRM infection.

There is NOTHING in Fister that couldn't have been implemented with a
service pack for WinXP. But of course, that wouldn't make any money for
Micro$hit, would it? - to they rely on lemmings like you to pony up for
the extra eye candy.


Of _course_ not, dearie. I'm _so_ convinced.


Preferably that which will require the lemmings to pay up for "updates"
to Micro$not Office, etc.


_Exactly_... you're beginning to realise what releases of new M$ OSen
are all about... the need to get the great unwashed to upgrade their
machines to cope with the eye candy and all the extra cruft running in
the background and to slyly work in DRM to boot. It _looks_ prettier,
sure, but you don't gain any additional useful functionality.

Face it, "Rock" - you've been taken for a mug. By the way, you were
going on about credibility earlier in the thread. Have you considered
how much credibility your anonymous posting ID confers on you?

Ahh yes, one of the juvenile posters is back again. I won't waste my time
on this one.