IE6 shuts down suddenly

[Richard \(Rick\) Bogosian]

IE6 is frequently shutting down with no warning; no error message; nothing.
All open windows close. Anybody experiencing this or know why it is
happening. This has been going on for about three weeks now.

Richard (Rick) W. Bogosian
(e-mail address removed)

 

[LuckyStrike]

Sounds malware related to me, Richard.

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Ad-Aware Tutorial
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http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4086.html
CWShredder Tutorial
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Spybot S&D
http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
Spybot Tutorial (Must Read)
http://tomcoyote.com/SPYBOT/index1.php
http://tomcoyote.com/SPYBOT/index2.php
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TomCoyote
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more details from Jim and his site
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His quick scan for parasites (scripting must be enabled for this to work)
http://www.aumha.org/a/noads.htm

A free on-line Trojan scanner
GFI
http://www.windowsecurity.com/trojanscan/
PestPatrol on-line scan
http://www.pestscan.com/home.asp

HTH -

 

[Jan Il]

IE6 is frequently shutting down with no warning; no error message;
nothing. All open windows close. Anybody experiencing this or know
why it is happening. This has been going on for about three weeks now.

Try the following and see if it helps.

IE shuts down without warning
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers_5.htm#shuts_down

Also........

Download, install and run the programs below to ensure there are no
parasites, spyware, adware or malware on your system contributing to the
problem. Be sure to UPDATE the SpyBot and AdAware programs before running
them to be sure they have the latest definitions. Run them both, as they
look for different warez, thus, what one does not find, the other may.

CWShredder: Free
http://tinyurl.com/2l9kl
or
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4086.html

SpyBot Search & Destroy: Free
http://download.com.com/3000-8022-10289035.html?tag=lst-0-2
or
http://majorgeeks.com/download2471.html

IMPORTANT:
Before trying to remove spyware, download a copy of LSPFIX from
the URL below - some malware may kill your internet connection when it is
removed, this program will enable you to regain your connection.
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm

AdAware: Free
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
or
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

(If needed: AdAware Manual updates only):
Scroll down to Updates Available -
http://lavasoft.element5.com/support/download


Hope this helps.

Jan

 

[LuckyStrike]

Was it the sub-conscious clue of "all windows close" which made you think of
the summertime and heat issue which can affect the processor, etc. and then
"click-lightbulb", you dug up that right handy answer/link? <VBG>

 

[Jan Il]

Hi LuckyStrike

Was it the sub-conscious clue of "all windows close" which made you
think of the summertime and heat issue which can affect the
processor, etc. and then "click-lightbulb", you dug up that right
handy answer/link? <VBG>

Well..you got me. I have to plead guilty to all the above. It really was hot
here today too.<BG>

Jan

 

[LuckyStrike]

No, I didn't get you.... I think *you* got *it*! It's has been rather warm
for at least three weeks now... 'cept maybe in Siberia. <s>

 

[Jan Il]

No, I didn't get you.... I think *you* got *it*! It's has been rather
warm for at least three weeks now... 'cept maybe in Siberia. <s>

Well...I suspect the OP will let us know if my guess was right or not. <g>
But, Siberia is *much* too cold for a California Girl. Minus 14 degrees F is
about as cold as I care to deal with without my Extracelestial
Ultracondtioned Zirconium Heat Generated Thermal Underpinning, thank you.
;-))

Jan

 

[LuckyStrike]

Just to keep it official and topical, I hope the OP does reply back that it
was temperature related and an ice-pack on the CPU fixed everything.

Minus 14º ? Maybe just about the right temp for a CPU, but then, you're
definitely not one of those. Now, you must be referring to San Francisco
where "the coldest winter... was a summer day in...". Surely I must go to
an Extraterrestrial designer to get one of those fancy Extracelestial
outfits (or should I say in-fits)? It gets a bit chilly in my area of the
galaxy. <bg>

 

[Jan Il]

Just to keep it official and topical, I hope the OP does reply back
that it was temperature related and an ice-pack on the CPU fixed
everything.

Well... some folks may not realize the CPU temp can get pretty warm, and the
fans may not be able to keep it cool in really warm weather. There are a lot
who keep their machines in the little cubby hole made to hold it in a work
station, which can help hold a lot of heat in the area of the machine,
adding to the heat situation.

Minus 14º ? Maybe just about the right temp for a CPU, but then,
you're definitely not one of those. Now, you must be referring to
San Francisco where "the coldest winter... was a summer day in...".
Surely I must go to an Extraterrestrial designer to get one of those
fancy Extracelestial outfits (or should I say in-fits)? It gets a bit
chilly in my area of the galaxy. <bg>

Heh...no..the only time I was ever in that cold a conditions was a visit to
some friends who have a cabin in Strawberry Point, in the mts. over Cedar
City, UT, one New Years holiday. The cabin is at the 10,000 ft. mark, and a
sudden heavy snow storm hit. The wood pile and cabin was snowed in, so when
the wood we had went, so did the warmth. There was no elec. or gas at the
cabin, so, for a day and a half we were without and heat. Have you any idea
how many new versions can be added to 99 Bottle of Beer on the Wall?

Jan

 

[LuckyStrike]

Well... some folks may not realize the CPU temp can get pretty warm, and the
fans may not be able to keep it cool in really warm weather. There are a lot
who keep their machines in the little cubby hole made to hold it in a work
station, which can help hold a lot of heat in the area of the machine,
adding to the heat situation.

That can help steam matters up, but still not nearly as hot as some of them

Heh...no..the only time I was ever in that cold a conditions was a visit to
some friends who have a cabin in Strawberry Point, in the mts. over Cedar
City, UT, one New Years holiday. The cabin is at the 10,000 ft. mark,
...when the wood we had went, so did the warmth.
...Have you any idea how many new versions can be added to 99 Bottle of

Beer on the Wall?

I'm very familiar with that area and most of the Southern half of that
state. It's where I call home. Can get pretty nippy unless one dresses as
you recommended. ;-)
It depends on how many bottles of beer are in the belly, I'd suppose. <g,d,
& r>

 

[Jan Il]

in message news:[email protected]...

That can help steam matters up, but still not nearly as hot as some
of them can get... "under the collar". <g>

Yeah....that's true. <g> But, I think furntiure mfg.'s have gotten wise,
most work stations I've seen lately with the cubby holes are open in the
back, with a door on the front that locks. ???....???

I'm very familiar with that area and most of the Southern half of that
state. It's where I call home. Can get pretty nippy unless one
dresses as you recommended. ;-)
It depends on how many bottles of beer are in the belly, I'd suppose.
<g,d, & r>

Ahh...ya'll hail from the Utah. Then no wonder you know where it is SP.
Nice place though, in the spring, summer and fall. But, a decent drive
from San Diego.
Well.....it 's just a little hard to drink frozen beer........lady like....
<vbg>

Jan

 

[LuckyStrike]

They leave the back open so's you kin reach around and unlatch it after you
lose your key (and forget the password) I wonder how the cabinet would react
to a "brute force" password cracker program.... Might scratch the hardware.
<BG>

Yep... but in the S.E. canyon country corner of the state where it is
generally a bit milder winter-wise. It takes a while to get used to the heat
and the high desert cold though. No wonder the landscape "crumbles".

Place the beer in ice-cube trays first...that'll work. ;-)

Another thing; serious matter though... sorry. You tried the MSKB today?
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

Odd thing is that I just discovered when trying to use it that the four
dropdown boxes are completely void of any choices or contents. You can type
in your search for stuff, but lacking those parameters, the page doesn't
work. What Th'...???!
I posted to the Win98.gen.discussion NG ~ 15 min ago. Still waiting for a
reply.

 

[Jan Il]

They leave the back open so's you kin reach around and unlatch it
after you lose your key (and forget the password) I wonder how the
cabinet would react to a "brute force" password cracker program....
Might scratch the hardware. <BG>

Oh....I thought that was to make it easier for the thieves to steal it.
That way they don't have to waste time looking for the key to the door,
which are all mass-blanked anyway. Shoooo...I can even use mine on my
clamp-on sidewalk skates. ??

Yep... but in the S.E. canyon country corner of the state where it is
generally a bit milder winter-wise. It takes a while to get used to
the heat and the high desert cold though. No wonder the landscape
"crumbles".

Some beautiful red rocks there though, the drive from Las Vegas is really
very striking. Curves are sharp too.

Place the beer in ice-cube trays first...that'll work. ;-)

Ohhhhh.....I'll have to borrow some from the neighbor. Any excuse to ride
the snowmobile, ya know. But, got lost in a drift last
time.....snowdrift.....type...that is.

Another thing; serious matter though... sorry. You tried the MSKB
today? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo

Odd thing is that I just discovered when trying to use it that the
four dropdown boxes are completely void of any choices or contents.
You can type in your search for stuff, but lacking those parameters,
the page doesn't work. What Th'...???!
I posted to the Win98.gen.discussion NG ~ 15 min ago. Still waiting
for a reply.

Ehhh.....did you go to the same site I did?? 'Cause....w'll...all the
dropdowns on my site had lots'a stuff in them to choose from.
Ahmm....maybe it's time to return the icecube trays to your neighbor.....
<VBG>

Be interesting to see what they have to say on the other newsgroup.

Jan

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Did they answer yet???

 

[LuckyStrike]

Top post here for simplicities sake; easier to snip later on too. <s>

Gee, I hadn't thought of that leave the back-door open for ease of theft
thing. D'oh.... I'd make a lousy source for some "fence". ;-D Are the
skates for a quick-getaway? <lol.>

Yeah... kinda of nice country for those who like it, such as I, and it
appears, you too. Next time you're that way, on a journey to "here", try
getting off I-15 ~ 40 miles N.E. of Vegas; head to Valley of Fire. Talk
about color and curves. <s>

I think I got your...ahem...drift. hehe.

Yeah, it was the same site, but now also my Windows Updates is telling me I
need to enable Scripting and Active X, so now it too is acting cantankerous.
Anyway, I don't permit Scripting *except for them*. That's why I placed
them in the Trusted zone! They show as being in the trusted zone on the
status bar as well. Just isn't working right (suddenly). Just did a scan
with CWShredder, PestPatrol now. Nothing. Did Spybot and Ad-Aware (earlier
today) and they were clean. WT..(you know the rest) This kinda nonsense only
happens (it seems) when I go out on a limb looking for answers to queries
for these kinds of groups (inet.ie6 and virus.sec or sec NG's).

Yeh...they answered. First I got a friend who joked, then Alan Edwards
appeared: said the same as you (basically) It works for them. PITA this is.

No...I respectfully disagree... It's time to break out the Cognac. Need
something *strong* yet tasty. But whatta waste, when there's nothing to
celebrate! (but a balky PC) :-\ Maybe if I drink enough and stare at the
screen long enough, I'll see some ActiveX. <VBG>

 

[LuckyStrike]

They didn't have much to offer in the way of help. Ended up fixing it myself
(inasmuch as it was I who had mistakenly disabled scripting in the custom
settings for Trusted site zones.) D'oh! <SG>
--

LuckyStrike
(e-mail address removed)
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Be interesting to see what they have to say on the other newsgroup.

Jan

Did they answer yet???

<snip>

 

[Jan Il]

Top post here for simplicities sake; easier to snip later on too. <s>

Gee, I hadn't thought of that leave the back-door open for ease of
theft thing. D'oh.... I'd make a lousy source for some "fence". ;-D

I thought of it when I bought my combo unit. It weighs about 400 lbs. Had

Are the skates for a quick-getaway? <lol.>

Nah.....just to remind me what all the scars around my ankles are from.

Yeah... kinda of nice country for those who like it, such as I, and it
appears, you too. Next time you're that way, on a journey to "here",
try getting off I-15 ~ 40 miles N.E. of Vegas; head to Valley of
Fire. Talk about color and curves. <s>

Thank you. I'll have to check that route out if I ever get back up that way
again. Color I like, curves I can do without unless they have mirrors so
you can see around them.

I think I got your...ahem...drift. hehe.

Yeah....I think it was a bear den. Thankfully, we didn't occupy it at the
same time. 8-o

Yeah, it was the same site, but now also my Windows Updates is
telling me I need to enable Scripting and Active X, so now it too is
acting cantankerous. Anyway, I don't permit Scripting *except for
them*. That's why I placed them in the Trusted zone! They show as
being in the trusted zone on the status bar as well. Just isn't
working right (suddenly). Just did a scan with CWShredder, PestPatrol
now. Nothing. Did Spybot and Ad-Aware (earlier today) and they were
clean. WT..(you know the rest) This kinda nonsense only happens (it
seems) when I go out on a limb looking for answers to queries for
these kinds of groups (inet.ie6 and virus.sec or sec NG's).

Well...I take it easy when I'm on the net, I don't set anything other than
No, No, and No way! So when I open IE a prompt comes up and asks 'Who do
you trust?' I click NO and go on. Ha! I'm no dumb bunny. I have no idea
about Who is.

Yeh...they answered. First I got a friend who joked, then Alan Edwards
appeared: said the same as you (basically) It works for them. PITA
this is.
No...I respectfully disagree... It's time to break out the Cognac.
Need something *strong* yet tasty. But whatta waste, when there's
nothing to celebrate! (but a balky PC) :-\ Maybe if I drink enough
and stare at the screen long enough, I'll see some ActiveX. <VBG>

No doubt! And..... if you stare at it long enough, it might start to stare
back at you. I don't use screen savers. If this one wears out, I'll get a
new one. One of the new flatsies, with the Guppies that swim all in the
same direction, while all the seaweed flows in the other. I'll need to
stock up on Dramamine though. <g>

There must be a full moon tonight somewhere. It seems like a lot of people
are having very unusual problems. I was over in the WinME and
alt.comp.anti-virus ngs earlier to stir up the Natives a bit, and they were
having a spate of some very odd problems it seemed. Well....hope you get
your PC up and running again soon. Or, find some interesting ActiveX Files.
<G>

Jan

 

[LuckyStrike]

LuckyStrike said:

I thought of it when I bought my combo unit. It weighs about 400 lbs. Had
them build it in front of my cement block wall. <es>

Nah.....just to remind me what all the scars around my ankles are from.
<music>
Memories...


Thank you. I'll have to check that route out if I ever get back up that way
again. Color I like, curves I can do without unless they have mirrors so
you can see around them.

Worth the side trip. Also you exit the Park further on up the road, so there
is no back-tracking involved. That makes it a "two-fer".

OK...we'll have 'em blast a straight-line pedal to the metal road for you.

Yeah....I think it was a bear den. Thankfully, we didn't occupy it at the
same time. 8-o

If you did, the next place you'd be staying would be far worse. I've heard
told it's terribly cramped accomodations in the bears gut and all. Not a

Well...I take it easy when I'm on the net, I don't set anything other than
No, No, and No way! So when I open IE a prompt comes up and asks 'Who do
you trust?' I click NO and go on. Ha! I'm no dumb bunny. I have no idea
about Who is.

That makes two of us... and many more if they know what's good for 'em.
Anyway, I had mistakenly disabled Active Scripting in the Trusted Sites
Zone. How's that for running a tight and paranoid ship? ;-D<snip>

Maybe if I drink enough

No doubt! And..... if you stare at it long enough, it might start to stare
back at you. I don't use screen savers. If this one wears out, I'll get a
new one. One of the new flatsies, with the Guppies that swim all in the
same direction, while all the seaweed flows in the other. I'll need to
stock up on Dramamine though. <g>

Well it is said that one shouldn't look at too much TV or PC's; after all,
they *are* vacuum tubes (older ones are anyway) and they'll suck your
brains out. Meanwhile, if you're wishing the present one will give up the
ghost so as to get a new one, Murpheys law says it'll never die. Better just
get a fish tank.... with real guppies. ;-D

There must be a full moon tonight somewhere. It seems like a lot of people
are having very unusual problems. I was over in the WinME and
alt.comp.anti-virus ngs earlier to stir up the Natives a bit, and they were
having a spate of some very odd problems it seemed. Well....hope you get
your PC up and running again soon. Or, find some interesting ActiveX Files.
<G>

I've been seeing the usual problems in this NG, so no full moon here. A full
plate...yes.
You're a gutsy one you are. That alt.comp.anti-virus has some rather
disagreeable characters that appear far too often for my liking. Flame city.

As said.. all was due to my own error. Machine was perfectly clean. Thanks
for the kind wishes.;-)

 

[Jan Il]

LuckyStrike said:

That's the ticket. <g>

Heh.....if they want to get at my old computer bad enough to go through my

<music>
Memories...
<music/>

Yeah....and the cracks in the sidewalks were the real ankle killers. Hit
one of them at full bore and it ripped them puppies right of the shoe soles,
and they whipped around your ankles like a pair of circular bandsaws. Lots
of bloody self-sacrifices to the Skate God for mercy. That was nothing
compared to what happened when you got home and had to tell your mother that
your shoes only had half a sole. Again..... It did not good to lie, all the
neighbors around would see what happened, and had already called and told

Worth the side trip. Also you exit the Park further on up the road, so there
is no back-tracking involved. That makes it a "two-fer".

OK...we'll have 'em blast a straight-line pedal to the metal road for you.

Well..it's really those sudden stops face to face with an 18-wheeler with a
sign across the grille that says 'CAUTION! Makes wide turns!' on a blind
curve, and all you have is a faded bumper sticker that says 'Ya'll drive
friendly.'

If you did, the next place you'd be staying would be far worse. I've heard
told it's terribly cramped accomodations in the bears gut and all. Not a
good idea. <sg>

Now..while I hate to be considered a name dropper, I think that would be a
good time to let Mr. Bear know how much I loved him in Gentle Ben, and that
I was a personal friend of Smokey, and Ranger Rogers over at Camp
Maybeidunno, and a Campfire Girl......

That makes two of us... and many more if they know what's good for 'em.
Anyway, I had mistakenly disabled Active Scripting in the Trusted Sites
Zone. How's that for running a tight and paranoid ship? ;-D

<snip>

Maybe if I drink enough

Well it is said that one shouldn't look at too much TV or PC's; after all,
they *are* vacuum tubes (older ones are anyway) and they'll suck your
brains out. Meanwhile, if you're wishing the present one will give up the
ghost so as to get a new one, Murpheys law says it'll never die. Better just
get a fish tank.... with real guppies. ;-D

No fish tanks thank you. The last one I had was more than enough. The
people at the pet store told me the fish I bought were Guppies, and would
not get very big. Well..I felt like a mother cuckoo planted her egg in my
fish tank, as those 'Guppies' turned out to be as big as a Grouper, and when
they wanted to eat, the sound of the bubbles was deafening. I tried not to
read their lips. I should have gotten a clue when the people at the pet
store told me their names.were Cujo and Jaws.

I've been seeing the usual problems in this NG, so no full moon here. A full
plate...yes.
You're a gutsy one you are. That alt.comp.anti-virus has some rather
disagreeable characters that appear far too often for my liking. Flame

city.

Yeah..some of them can be testy now and then, but, most are nice, and
helpful. 'From the Rafters' and a few others have a sense of humor and we
banter in good fun. I tend to steer clear of the others that are spoiling
for a row. I just kill them with kindness and they go away. )

As said.. all was due to my own error. Machine was perfectly clean. Thanks
for the kind wishes.;-)

Glad you got it resolved and back up to par. YVW.

Jan

 

[LuckyStrike]

:

Heh.....if they want to get at my old computer bad enough to go through my
block wall, then they are in serious trouble. <G>

Yeah....and the cracks in the sidewalks were the real ankle killers. Hit
one of them at full bore and it ripped them puppies right of the shoe soles,
and they whipped around your ankles like a pair of circular bandsaws. Lots
of bloody self-sacrifices to the Skate God for mercy. That was nothing
compared to what happened when you got home and had to tell your mother that
your shoes only had half a sole. <snip>

Talk about memories. Lol! I was thrust back eons (ok... a few weeks) with
the "half a sole" thing. <VBSG> Very low tech, with high shoe destruction
capabilities... yep...those are the one's alright! Look awfully stupid
walking about with the front of the sole flapping about. ;-D

you.

Well..it's really those sudden stops face to face with an 18-wheeler with a
sign across the grille that says 'CAUTION! Makes wide turns!' on a blind
curve, and all you have is a faded bumper sticker that says 'Ya'll drive
friendly.'

As has been said: "It's not the years, nor the miles;.... it's the (sudden)
stops which one makes in-between." <BG> Anyway, you've been in socially
minded California too long. You almost never see that here...they just turn

Now..while I hate to be considered a name dropper, I think that would be a
good time to let Mr. Bear know how much I loved him in Gentle Ben, and that
I was a personal friend of Smokey, and Ranger Rogers over at Camp
Maybeidunno, and a Campfire Girl......

Are you certain that this one wasn't a distant "black-sheep" relative who
wouldn't have been the least bit moved by your mistaking him for a kind
hearted cousin?

You musta read the same James Bond book I did. <g>

Prolly. ;-)

No fish tanks thank you. The last one I had was more than enough. The
people at the pet store told me the fish I bought were Guppies, and would
not get very big. Well..I felt like a mother cuckoo planted her egg in my
fish tank, as those 'Guppies' turned out to be as big as a Grouper, and when
they wanted to eat, the sound of the bubbles was deafening. I tried not to
read their lips. I should have gotten a clue when the people at the pet
store told me their names.were Cujo and Jaws.


city.

Yeah..some of them can be testy now and then, but, most are nice, and
helpful. 'From the Rafters' and a few others have a sense of humor and we
banter in good fun. I tend to steer clear of the others that are spoiling
for a row. I just kill them with kindness and they go away. )

Good approach. Like that. ;-) It seems most of the NG's which deal with
Spyware, virus, etc as a specialty, attract a "certain element". (there are
exceptions of course)

Glad you got it resolved and back up to par. YVW.

Yeppers... all "fixed". ;-)LuckyStrike
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[Jan Il]

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Where do you keep your new one... Fort Knox maybe? <g>

Why..yes! How did you guess? Yeppa..gots me own private key too. ;-)

Talk about memories. Lol! I was thrust back eons (ok... a few weeks)
with the "half a sole" thing. <VBSG> Very low tech, with high shoe
destruction capabilities... yep...those are the one's alright! Look
awfully stupid walking about with the front of the sole flapping
about. ;-D

Are you certain that this one wasn't a distant "black-sheep" relative
who wouldn't have been the least bit moved by your mistaking him for
a kind hearted cousin?

Prolly. ;-)

LOL! <music> da-dun-da-dun-da-dun-da-dun..... <music/>

Heh! Try buying 'fish food' for them! You won't be finding it at your local
Wal-Mart pet dept. No just sprinkling a little miniscule particles on the
water. I tried to return them, but, I didn't have a receipt. I have a

Good approach. Like that. ;-) It seems most of the NG's which deal
with Spyware, virus, etc as a specialty, attract a "certain element".
(there are exceptions of course)

Nah...they're all over. Even some of your more 'sophisticated' ng's have
them too. But, I usually find a way to either get along, or they avoid me.
;-)

Yeppers... all "fixed". ;-)

Jan