I want my Aero

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Sanjib Ahmad

Looks like Aero is still unsupported on Intel 910/915 graphics chipset. I do
have 128 vram but chipset has no Aero capability. Intel is still tight
lipped when or if at all they will release a dedicated Vista driver.

Those who don't have Aero, how are you living your lives? So, how do you
deal with those moments when you see your co-worker firing away those Aero
windows and shiny glass effects? Do you hope patiently that one day Intel
will release a Vista driver for your graphics card or do you accept the fact
of life without Aero?

Cheers,
Sanjib
 
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Terry

On 4/12/2007 10:07 AM On a whim, Sanjib Ahmad pounded out on the keyboard
Looks like Aero is still unsupported on Intel 910/915 graphics chipset. I do
have 128 vram but chipset has no Aero capability. Intel is still tight
lipped when or if at all they will release a dedicated Vista driver.

Those who don't have Aero, how are you living your lives? So, how do you
deal with those moments when you see your co-worker firing away those Aero
windows and shiny glass effects? Do you hope patiently that one day Intel
will release a Vista driver for your graphics card or do you accept the fact
of life without Aero?

Cheers,
Sanjib

I doubt many "co-workers" are going to be "firing away those Aero
windows", unless the machines have been replaced. Just about all the
workstations I work on have integrated graphics w/128 to 256 meg of RAM
(I just work on 'em, I don't buy 'em), and they're only a couple years
old (yes, I've recommended upgrades, but we know how that goes).

Are you working on a company network that has installed Vista on all its
machines? How's that going?

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Terry

On 4/12/2007 10:46 AM On a whim, Dale M. White pounded out on the keyboard
You know for less than $50 you can get a video card that will give you Aero

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102458

Or you can grab a PCI card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130188


I live without Aero great, I'm not into the shiny, pretty things. Else I
would have bought a Mac by now

Few businesses will allow an employee to upgrade their own computer.

For one or a few users, your suggestion sounds great. But for companies
with a lot of workstations; $50 for the card + cost of installation +
the cost of more RAM and installation (usually) + cost of Vista (clean
install plus reinstall all apps). For what? They've spent a lot of
money and the employees still work in Word, use Outlook, browse the
internet JUST like they did in XP, or w2k, or win98, or win95.

You've got to understand that on a business level, it's just a waste of
time and money. I'm a network admin so this might sound strange. But
I'm also a business owner, and owners want to know how the long it will
take for the money spent to be returned in productivity.

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Justin

Terry said:
For one or a few users, your suggestion sounds great. But for companies
with a lot of workstations; $50 for the card + cost of installation + the
cost of more RAM and installation (usually) + cost of Vista (clean install
plus reinstall all apps).

I see no point in upgrading a machine that requires to have money spent on
it. Only upgrade the machines that can handle it and move forward with new
machines. Why does everyone harp on a scenario where you MUST UPGRADE all
machines? At once?
For what? They've spent a lot of money and the employees still work in
Word, use Outlook, browse the internet JUST like they did in XP, or w2k,
or win98, or win95.

Why would you spend money on anything and not use the new features? If all
you did was continue to use those three apps then why not stay on win98?
The advantage of upgrading to a new OS is to reap the benefits of that new
OS.

For us, we lost shadow copy when we moved to a new linux storage solution.
At least now our users can get it back on their own desktops.

Searching is much faster.

The IT department will save money and time with new deployment options.

Don't just fixate on one thing. Learn to learn new ways to develop your
work flow.
 
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Dale M. White

Terry said:
On 4/12/2007 10:46 AM On a whim, Dale M. White pounded out on the keyboard
Few businesses will allow an employee to upgrade their own computer.

For one or a few users, your suggestion sounds great. But for companies
with a lot of workstations; $50 for the card + cost of installation + the
cost of more RAM and installation (usually) + cost of Vista (clean install
plus reinstall all apps). For what? They've spent a lot of money and the
employees still work in Word, use Outlook, browse the internet JUST like
they did in XP, or w2k, or win98, or win95.

You've got to understand that on a business level, it's just a waste of
time and money. I'm a network admin so this might sound strange. But I'm
also a business owner, and owners want to know how the long it will take
for the money spent to be returned in productivity.

I understand the business side of it completely. He didn't state this was a
business machine, though I could have gathered that from his "Co-workers"
statement . If it is for work, then I'm sure the bosses may or may not
approve of his own self upgrading, but if he likes to live on the wild side,
he can do it and odds are no one will ever know. Unless they are running
something like SMS server polling all the machines for changes.

I'm guessing if his co-workers are running Aero, then some people have the
good stuff, some don't. Maybe they put in their own cards.

I just gave the answer based on the info I have. Whether he needs to make
this a "Covert Op" is up to him. Maybe he saw a picture of my old cube on
the web and decided he wanted to live the good life. Obviously, not every
one can have a relaxed office environment that allows individuals to express
themselves.
http://images1.filecloud.com/415734/office_system.jpg
 
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Sanjib Ahmad

You know for less than $50 you can get a video card that will give you

I am on lappy with integrated graphics chipset :(
I live without Aero great, I'm not into the shiny, pretty things. Else I
would have bought a Mac by now

I know...I already have an iBook :)
Truth be told, I spent a good part of my life on Unix command prompts with
Window Managers like Ion and Ratpoison. Used Emacs long enough to respect my
pinky.

What I find really interesting and fascinating is the power of Advertising
and Promotions which has caused me (partially) to buy Vista...even knowing
the fact beforehand that my graphics card wont support Aero.
 
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Sanjib Ahmad

Are you working on a company network that has installed Vista on all its
machines? How's that going?

Actually bought Vista Business from my own pocket. The company is still on
XP and believe will remain on XP till Vista SP1 is released.
 
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Nina DiBoy

Sanjib said:
Looks like Aero is still unsupported on Intel 910/915 graphics chipset.
I do have 128 vram but chipset has no Aero capability. Intel is still
tight lipped when or if at all they will release a dedicated Vista driver.

Those who don't have Aero, how are you living your lives? So, how do you
deal with those moments when you see your co-worker firing away those
Aero windows and shiny glass effects? Do you hope patiently that one day
Intel will release a Vista driver for your graphics card or do you
accept the fact of life without Aero?

Cheers,
Sanjib

I have this chipset and I read on the intel site that the xp drivers
should work in vista and support aero. Try them at your own risk,
because I have not tried them yet.

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Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"poor little MADAM albright still got your knickers twisted. how are we
supposed to believe you know anything about computers when you cannot
even dress your self. oh and pull that skirt down."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
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Terry

On 4/12/2007 11:36 AM On a whim, Dale M. White pounded out on the keyboard
Ouch, well I reckon you're in a rock and a hard place.


Err, "between a rock and a hard place", but I think you're right. ;-)

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Stephan Rose

Sanjib said:
Looks like Aero is still unsupported on Intel 910/915 graphics chipset. I
do have 128 vram but chipset has no Aero capability. Intel is still tight
lipped when or if at all they will release a dedicated Vista driver.

Those who don't have Aero, how are you living your lives? So, how do you
deal with those moments when you see your co-worker firing away those Aero
windows and shiny glass effects? Do you hope patiently that one day Intel
will release a Vista driver for your graphics card or do you accept the
fact of life without Aero?

Easy. I just fire up Beryl, which would likely run perfectly fine on your
chipset, and kick Aero's butt. =)

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Rick Raisley

Sanjib Ahmad said:
Actually bought Vista Business from my own pocket. The company is still on
XP and believe will remain on XP till Vista SP1 is released.

If the company let you buy, and install, Vista, then they'll probably be
fine with you adding a $50 video card.

But I'm surprised they let you install Vista on a company machine, if they
haven't determined that it's what they want the whole company to do. Our
company is sticking with Win2K for, I would guess, a year. We are absolutely
prohibited from installing Vista except in a testing lab environment. The
additional support, problems, questions, added machine requirements, etc.
just aren't worth it for us (or most companies) at this time. I have Vista
at home, and need it to support programs I write.

Just curious: does your boss know you installed Vista? ;-)
 

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