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I found that using IE6 I could not access Microsoft Newsgroups. I switched
to Firefox and it worked temporarily. I found that the problem was improper
use of the .net passport sign in. I got into my .net passport profile,
signed out and clicked not to be remembered. I had to do this for both
Firefox and IE6. I can now access the newsgoups on both browsers. I believe
I had the problem because I had not been signing out.
 
map444 said:
I found that using IE6 I could not access Microsoft Newsgroups. I
switched to Firefox and it worked temporarily. I found that the
problem was improper use of the .net passport sign in. I got into my
.net passport profile, signed out and clicked not to be remembered.
I had to do this for both Firefox and IE6. I can now access the
newsgoups on both browsers. I believe I had the problem because I
had not been signing out.

For a faster interface to the newsgroups, in Outlook Express go to Tools |
Accounts | Add (or New) | News.
Set up an account for this news server:

msnews.microsoft.com

The server is free and does not require you to logon. This news server
carries over 2200 newsgroups related to Microsoft products and keeps
messages at least 30 days.

For more detail see
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com./athome/security/protect/default.aspx
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
 
For a faster interface to the newsgroups,

.... and faster virus/trojans/spyware infections ...
in Outlook Express go to Tools
| Accounts | Add (or New) | News.
Set up an account for this news server:

msnews.microsoft.com

The server is free and does not require you to logon. This news server
carries over 2200 newsgroups related to Microsoft products and keeps
messages at least 30 days.

For more detail see
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Use: http://www.mozilla.org/
 
Mark said:
... and faster virus/trojans/spyware infections ...

How is the Restricted Zone preview pane in Outlook Express or Outlook Express, in general, susceptible to viruses, trojans, and spyware?

carl
 
Mark said:
... and faster virus/trojans/spyware infections ...


Use: http://www.mozilla.org/

You are ignorant, aren't you? I have been using OE for at least seven years
and have never gotten a virus/trojan/spyware infection. Never got a
notification that my anti-virus or anything else has stopped one either.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com./athome/security/protect/default.aspx
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
 
Frank said:
For a faster interface to the newsgroups, in Outlook Express go to Tools
| Accounts | Add (or New) | News.
Set up an account for this news server:

msnews.microsoft.com

The server is free and does not require you to logon. This news server
carries over 2200 newsgroups related to Microsoft products and keeps
messages at least 30 days.

For more detail see
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
Good move, I downloaded Firefox, Thunderbird and Sunbird (calendar-to
replace Outlook PIM). Install them and make sure they work properly
setting accounts for email etc. Then uninstalled ie & oe via
start\settings\control panel searched\add remove programs. Once that is
done go to kelly's corner and get the windows messenger remover and
disabled and removed that so it won't kick in on boot up and bring up
MSN explorer (use the web to check any hotmail account). Next do a
google search for "speedup firefox" do all except Set
"network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" to 30 or more. Setting this to 30
means it will make 30 requests or more at once (whichever you picked).
Why I say not to do this is because setting the maxrequests to 30 will
not do any good anyways, as the hard limit on a web server is 8, so
anything over 8 will be ignored. Although you can speed up your
connection if you do set this to 30, if the site isn't busy, but you
will slow down that site by doing so. Next modify your Firefox Icon by
right clicking and choosing properties and adding " /prefetch:1 " to the
end of the target line it should look like this.
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" /prefetch:1

All of these tweaks are available on the search including the comments
on the maxrequests.
 
You are ignorant, aren't you? I have been using OE for at least seven
years and have never gotten a virus/trojan/spyware infection. Never got
a notification that my anti-virus or anything else has stopped one either.


Sorry, I am not ignorant. I and others just want security rather than
insecurity.
 
|
|
| On 2/6/2005 9:34 AM, Frank Saunders, MS-MVP:
| > | >
| >> On 2/6/2005 8:52 AM, Frank Saunders, MS-MVP:
| >>
| >>> | >>>
| >>>> I found that using IE6 I could not access Microsoft Newsgroups. I
| >>>> switched to Firefox and it worked temporarily. I found that the
| >>>> problem was improper use of the .net passport sign in. I got into
| >>>> my .net passport profile, signed out and clicked not to be
| >>>> remembered. I had to do this for both Firefox and IE6. I can now
| >>>> access the newsgoups on both browsers. I believe I had the problem
| >>>> because I had not been signing out.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> For a faster interface to the newsgroups,
| >>
| >>
| >> ... and faster virus/trojans/spyware infections ...
| >>
| >>> in Outlook Express go to Tools
| >>>
| >>>> Accounts | Add (or New) | News.
| >>>
| >>> Set up an account for this news server:
| >>>
| >>> msnews.microsoft.com
| >>>
| >>> The server is free and does not require you to logon. This news
| >>> server carries over 2200 newsgroups related to Microsoft products
| >>> and keeps messages at least 30 days.
| >>>
| >>> For more detail see
| >>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
| >>>
| >>
| >> Use: http://www.mozilla.org/
| >
| >
| > You are ignorant, aren't you? I have been using OE for at least seven
| > years and have never gotten a virus/trojan/spyware infection. Never got
| > a notification that my anti-virus or anything else has stopped one
either.
| >
|
|
| Sorry, I am not ignorant. I and others just want security rather than
| insecurity.

If you think OE is insecure, you're ignorant. I have been using OE over 8
years and never, ever have gotten a virus/trojan/spyware infection. The
reason Frank and I haven't gotten any is due to prudence and common sense,
something you would have to use with *any* email program. Thunderbird has
limitations that make it totally useless for my business.
 
Mark said:
Sorry, I am not ignorant. I and others just want security rather than
insecurity.
I agree it isn't ignorance if you are lucky. I changed because I wanted
speed and no more hang ups/stalls when marking news groups as read. For
example when I subscribe to a new news group OE downloads headers and
after reviewing the headers I usually mark the news group as read.
However, OE always hangs and appears to be non responsive on large
quantities of messages; not so with thunderbird. IE requires too many
additional add-ins for pop-up blockers and too many people have created
these self installing search toolbars and not one of these have attached
themselves to Firefox.
 
|
|
| On 2/6/2005 9:41 AM, Don Dunlap:
| > | >
| >>
| >>On 2/6/2005 8:52 AM, Frank Saunders, MS-MVP:
| >>
| >>>| >>>
| >>>
| >>>>I found that using IE6 I could not access Microsoft Newsgroups. I
| >>>>switched to Firefox and it worked temporarily. I found that the
| >>>>problem was improper use of the .net passport sign in. I got into my
| >>>>.net passport profile, signed out and clicked not to be remembered.
| >>>>I had to do this for both Firefox and IE6. I can now access the
| >>>>newsgoups on both browsers. I believe I had the problem because I
| >>>>had not been signing out.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>For a faster interface to the newsgroups,
| >>
| >>... and faster virus/trojans/spyware infections ...
| >>
| >
| >
| > Do you have facts to back up that claim or are you just another MS
basher?
| >
| > Don
|
| See: http://www.sarc.com/

Nothing there about OE, although using one of the worst AVs on the market as
proof is laughable.
--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
|
|
|
|
| >>>in Outlook Express go to Tools | Accounts | Add (or New) | News.
| >>>Set up an account for this news server:
| >>>
| >>>msnews.microsoft.com
| >>>
| >>>The server is free and does not require you to logon. This news server
| >>>carries over 2200 newsgroups related to Microsoft products and keeps
| >>>messages at least 30 days.
| >>>
| >>>For more detail see
| >>>http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
| >>>
| >>
| >>Use: http://www.mozilla.org/
| >
| >
| >
 
I am going to try your suggestions for Firefox. From past experience it
seems that in the end Microsoft wins out with the best applications. I am
therefore reluctant to get rid of Internet explorer.
 
|I am going to try your suggestions for Firefox. From past experience it
| seems that in the end Microsoft wins out with the best applications. I am
| therefore reluctant to get rid of Internet explorer.

You don't have to get rid of IE to use Firefox. The can coexist on your
computer with no problems at all.
--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
|
| "Philippe L. Balmanno" wrote:
|
| > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP wrote:
| > > | > >
| > >> I found that using IE6 I could not access Microsoft Newsgroups. I
| > >> switched to Firefox and it worked temporarily. I found that the
| > >> problem was improper use of the .net passport sign in. I got into my
| > >> .net passport profile, signed out and clicked not to be remembered.
| > >> I had to do this for both Firefox and IE6. I can now access the
| > >> newsgoups on both browsers. I believe I had the problem because I
| > >> had not been signing out.
| > >
| > >
| > > For a faster interface to the newsgroups, in Outlook Express go to
Tools
| > > | Accounts | Add (or New) | News.
| > > Set up an account for this news server:
| > >
| > > msnews.microsoft.com
| > >
| > > The server is free and does not require you to logon. This news
server
| > > carries over 2200 newsgroups related to Microsoft products and keeps
| > > messages at least 30 days.
| > >
| > > For more detail see
| > > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
| > >
| > Good move, I downloaded Firefox, Thunderbird and Sunbird (calendar-to
| > replace Outlook PIM). Install them and make sure they work properly
| > setting accounts for email etc. Then uninstalled ie & oe via
| > start\settings\control panel searched\add remove programs. Once that is
| > done go to kelly's corner and get the windows messenger remover and
| > disabled and removed that so it won't kick in on boot up and bring up
| > MSN explorer (use the web to check any hotmail account). Next do a
| > google search for "speedup firefox" do all except Set
| > "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" to 30 or more. Setting this to 30
| > means it will make 30 requests or more at once (whichever you picked).
| > Why I say not to do this is because setting the maxrequests to 30 will
| > not do any good anyways, as the hard limit on a web server is 8, so
| > anything over 8 will be ignored. Although you can speed up your
| > connection if you do set this to 30, if the site isn't busy, but you
| > will slow down that site by doing so. Next modify your Firefox Icon by
| > right clicking and choosing properties and adding " /prefetch:1 " to the
| > end of the target line it should look like this.
| > "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" /prefetch:1
| >
| > All of these tweaks are available on the search including the comments
| > on the maxrequests.
| >
| >
 
Philippe said:
I agree it isn't ignorance if you are lucky. I changed because I wanted
speed and no more hang ups/stalls when marking news groups as read. For
example when I subscribe to a new news group OE downloads headers and
after reviewing the headers I usually mark the news group as read.
However, OE always hangs and appears to be non responsive on large
quantities of messages; not so with thunderbird. IE requires too many
additional add-ins for pop-up blockers and too many people have created
these self installing search toolbars and not one of these have attached
themselves to Firefox.
I should have added taht at one time I used OE as both email and NG
reader then tried OE as the NG reader with OL for email. The hang still
occurred.
 
You are ignorant, aren't you? I have been using OE for at least seven years
and have never gotten a virus/trojan/spyware infection. Never got a
notification that my anti-virus or anything else has stopped one either.

Frank, as an MVP I would be ashamed of you if you had gotten a virus using
OE. The simple fact is that most users don't even patch their computers,
most users don't properly update their AV products, most users don't even
know enough to disable File/Printer sharing on a single computer network.

While I've been using computers in the 76 I've never experienced a
virus/compromised system, but I know a ton of people that have, and almost
everyone of them was using IE or Outlook/Outlook Express without either of
them locked down.

So, when you reply, you might want to consider the larger install base,
which is mostly the ignorant users.
 
map444 said:
I am going to try your suggestions for Firefox. From past experience it
seems that in the end Microsoft wins out with the best applications. I am
therefore reluctant to get rid of Internet explorer.

:
Then I wouldn't get rid of them. I always believe that it's the feel /
comfort of the application and how it performs for you. Like buying a car.
 
AV software increases the cost of ownership. Linux and Mac OS X do not
require AV software. Windows is just a high maintenance operating
system when computer users only want to use their system and not always
maintain it and do monthly updates. No matter what AV software used in
Windows, its no where near 100% effective.
 
I am going to try your suggestions for Firefox. From past experience it
seems that in the end Microsoft wins out with the best applications. I am
therefore reluctant to get rid of Internet explorer.

Don't get RID of IE, just stop using it. I have hundreds of examples of
people that were compromised and moving them from IE to FireFox eliminated
most of the problem with no other change. Asking people to manage IE in
HIGH-SECURITY mode is like asking them to pull teeth - adding sites to the
trusted zone works well, but users just don't want to have to deal with it.
 
You cannot get rid of Internet Explorer, its an integrated part of the
OS. Microsoft only allows you to hide the shortcuts to run Internet
Explorer (and Outlook Express).

To eliminate Internet Explorer, you will need to reverted to Windows 3.1
or use Linux, or Mac OS X. Internet Explorer does come in Mac OS X, but
it is uninstallable.
 

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