I need a new inkjet


P

Pete

Hi all

I'm in the UK looking for a new inkjet printer that has low running costs.
Obviously Lexmarks are out as there are no compatible catridges. What's the
situation with HP?

I was looking at the Epson R265 as Epson are doing a rebate in this at the
moment but there don't seem to be any compatible catridges out for this
model yet, does anyone know if there will be or has epson made it harder
with the latest models.

I would be happy to try a canon but I don't want to be messing around
switching chips on the catridges and voiding my warranty.

My ideal printer would be something like the Epson R220 but this is
unavailable now. I'd really like a printer that can do CD & DVD printing but
it if came to a choice of cheap catridges or CD printing I'd have to go with
cheap catridges.

Don't want to pay more than £10ish for a set of catridges, currently paying
about £2 for a colour and £1.5 for black and white for my trusty Epson
Stylus Colour 880.

Any recommendations

Thanks

Pete
 
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K

kony

Hi all

I'm in the UK looking for a new inkjet printer that has low running costs.
Obviously Lexmarks are out as there are no compatible catridges. What's the
situation with HP?

I was looking at the Epson R265 as Epson are doing a rebate in this at the
moment but there don't seem to be any compatible catridges out for this
model yet, does anyone know if there will be or has epson made it harder
with the latest models.

I would be happy to try a canon but I don't want to be messing around
switching chips on the catridges and voiding my warranty.
Huh?

You've voided the warranty using "compatible cartridges" as
you express desire to do above.


My ideal printer would be something like the Epson R220 but this is
unavailable now. I'd really like a printer that can do CD & DVD printing but
it if came to a choice of cheap catridges or CD printing I'd have to go with
cheap catridges.

Don't want to pay more than £10ish for a set of catridges, currently paying
about £2 for a colour and £1.5 for black and white for my trusty Epson
Stylus Colour 880.

Any recommendations
Keep using your current printer or search the opposite
direction- for cheap compatible cartridges, not printers,
and buy one supported that suits your needs.
 
P

Pete

kony said:
Huh?

You've voided the warranty using "compatible cartridges" as
you express desire to do above.
I'm not being funny but I haven't a clue what you are trying to say.
 
G

GlowingBlueMist

Pete said:
Hi all

I'm in the UK looking for a new inkjet printer that has low running costs.
Obviously Lexmarks are out as there are no compatible catridges. What's
the situation with HP?

I was looking at the Epson R265 as Epson are doing a rebate in this at the
moment but there don't seem to be any compatible catridges out for this
model yet, does anyone know if there will be or has epson made it harder
with the latest models.

I would be happy to try a canon but I don't want to be messing around
switching chips on the catridges and voiding my warranty.

My ideal printer would be something like the Epson R220 but this is
unavailable now. I'd really like a printer that can do CD & DVD printing
but it if came to a choice of cheap catridges or CD printing I'd have to
go with cheap catridges.

Don't want to pay more than £10ish for a set of catridges, currently
paying about £2 for a colour and £1.5 for black and white for my trusty
Epson Stylus Colour 880.

Any recommendations

Thanks

Pete
HP has started taking replacement cartridge makers to court all over the
world and closing them down as they find them. They only allow a few
"licensed" companies to produce them.

So far it looks like they have not tried to kill the cartridge refilling
market, yet.

I like to use printers that have the print head built into the cartridge
(any brand that gives me decent printouts) and then have them refilled at a
commercial cartridge refiller. You can purchase the kits to refill them
yourself as well.

The reason I like to stick with printers that have the print head built into
the cartridge is that just in case something goes wrong with the refilling I
can always purchase a new cartridge and the printer is back working again
with out having to deal with getting the printer repaired.
 
P

Pete

GlowingBlueMist said:
HP has started taking replacement cartridge makers to court all over the
world and closing them down as they find them. They only allow a few
"licensed" companies to produce them.

So far it looks like they have not tried to kill the cartridge refilling
market, yet.

I like to use printers that have the print head built into the cartridge
(any brand that gives me decent printouts) and then have them refilled at
a commercial cartridge refiller. You can purchase the kits to refill them
yourself as well.

The reason I like to stick with printers that have the print head built
into the cartridge is that just in case something goes wrong with the
refilling I can always purchase a new cartridge and the printer is back
working again with out having to deal with getting the printer repaired.
Thanks

I've never used used commercial cartridge refillers, how do the costs
compare?
 
R

Rod Speed

kony said:
You've voided the warranty using "compatible cartridges"
as you express desire to do above.
Wrong.


Keep using your current printer or search the opposite
direction- for cheap compatible cartridges, not printers,
and buy one supported that suits your needs.
 
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Rod Speed

Pete said:
I'm not being funny but I haven't a clue what you are trying to say.
He's claiming that you void the warrant when you dont use the printer
manufacturer's cartridges in the printer. He is just plain wrong.
 
G

GlowingBlueMist

Pete said:
Thanks

I've never used used commercial cartridge refillers, how do the costs
compare?
I find that with a little looking around one can find places that refill
cartridges for half the price or lower when compared with a new one.
Usually but not always they are lower than purchasing from a place selling
3rd party or remanufactured cartridges.

This is not an endorsement (since I live in the USA) but here is one link
that Google found in the UK that you might find of interest. I'm sure there
are local stores that do the same or similar available near you.
http://www.page-net.com/frame/pages/refill.htm
 
K

kony

He's claiming that you void the warrant when you dont use the printer
manufacturer's cartridges in the printer. He is just plain wrong.
Warranty void.
 
K

kony

I'm not being funny but I haven't a clue what you are trying to say.
Don't look for a printer. Look for cartridges... all
cartridges, then pick among the printers with cartridge
support available.
 
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U

UCLAN

kony wrote:

OP's question:

Kony's answer:
Keep using your current printer or search the opposite
direction- for cheap compatible cartridges, not printers,
and buy one supported that suits your needs.
Hmmm...answer was not specific to the question. Gee, weren't you
chastising a couple of people for something similar? Yeah, back
in the "Wireless mouse with longest battery life?" thread. <g>
 
P

Pete

So get one second hand.


NT
What I really want to know is...can anyone recommend a similar priner to the
Epson R220 (or the same but without the cd printing faciltiy) that has cheap
catridges and similar quality.

Thanks
 
G

Geoff

Pete said:
Hi all

I'm in the UK looking for a new inkjet printer that has low running costs.
Obviously Lexmarks are out as there are no compatible catridges. What's
the situation with HP?

I was looking at the Epson R265 as Epson are doing a rebate in this at the
moment but there don't seem to be any compatible catridges out for this
model yet, does anyone know if there will be or has epson made it harder
with the latest models.

I would be happy to try a canon but I don't want to be messing around
switching chips on the catridges and voiding my warranty.

My ideal printer would be something like the Epson R220 but this is
unavailable now. I'd really like a printer that can do CD & DVD printing
but it if came to a choice of cheap catridges or CD printing I'd have to
go with cheap catridges.

Don't want to pay more than £10ish for a set of catridges, currently
paying about £2 for a colour and £1.5 for black and white for my trusty
Epson Stylus Colour 880.

Any recommendations

Thanks

Pete
You must be looking in the wrong place. Plenty of new Epson R220s on
ebay.co.uk (got one myself month or so back) either auction or Buy It Now.
Currently paying 95p per cartridge - IMO not it's as good as the 600/700/800
series but does the job.

Geoff
 
P

Pete

Geoff said:
You must be looking in the wrong place. Plenty of new Epson R220s on
ebay.co.uk (got one myself month or so back) either auction or Buy It Now.
Currently paying 95p per cartridge - IMO not it's as good as the
600/700/800 series but does the job.

Geoff
I'd prefer to buy from a proper store but I'll take a look, thanks.

When you say it's not as good as the 600/700/800 do you mean the Epson
Stylus color 600 etc or do you mean a another model. I thought the
600/700/800 were really old now and the R220 would knock spots of them.

What are the photo prints like?

thanks

Pete
 
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Geoff

Pete said:
I'd prefer to buy from a proper store but I'll take a look, thanks.

When you say it's not as good as the 600/700/800 do you mean the Epson
Stylus color 600 etc or do you mean a another model. I thought the
600/700/800 were really old now and the R220 would knock spots of them.

What are the photo prints like?

thanks

Pete
If you go for one of the established sellers (some of them have physical
stores as well) you shouldn't have any problems, I couldn't be bothered with
the auctions and went for a Buy It Now, but just check the total price you
are paying, post/carriage can vary dramatically. The one I bought was brand
new with a full Epson Warranty.

I get through printers at the average rate of 1 a year (the last one a C66,
lasted just 13 months), and with the older Epson printers, there were no
'chips' to worry about, cartridges were cheap and if desperate they could be
refilled easily. Also you could take them to pieces (using a screwdriver) to
clean up the overflow area etc., but these new ones appear to be impossible
to get into.

Quality wise, I don't think there is much to choose between any of the Epson
printers. IMO Epson have never produced the very best in photo-quality, but
they all a good all-round printer with realistic operating costs. The only
real benefit I have seen in the newer printers is the borderless printing,

Geoff
 
P

Pete

Geoff said:
If you go for one of the established sellers (some of them have physical
stores as well) you shouldn't have any problems, I couldn't be bothered
with the auctions and went for a Buy It Now, but just check the total
price you are paying, post/carriage can vary dramatically. The one I
bought was brand new with a full Epson Warranty.

I get through printers at the average rate of 1 a year (the last one a
C66, lasted just 13 months), and with the older Epson printers, there were
no 'chips' to worry about, cartridges were cheap and if desperate they
could be refilled easily. Also you could take them to pieces (using a
screwdriver) to clean up the overflow area etc., but these new ones appear
to be impossible to get into.

Quality wise, I don't think there is much to choose between any of the
Epson printers. IMO Epson have never produced the very best in
photo-quality, but they all a good all-round printer with realistic
operating costs. The only real benefit I have seen in the newer printers
is the borderless printing,

Geoff
Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I've found one for sale on ebay and the guy has an actual store although
geographicaly it couldn't be further from me.

Do you know if the photo prints from compatible inks last very long? Some
prints I have done with my epson 880 using compatibles faded badly well
within a year. Would the ink they use in 880 compatibles be the same as inks
for the R220 compatiables I wonder.

Regards

Pete
 
G

Geoff

Pete said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I've found one for sale on ebay and the guy has an actual store although
geographicaly it couldn't be further from me.

Do you know if the photo prints from compatible inks last very long? Some
prints I have done with my epson 880 using compatibles faded badly well
within a year. Would the ink they use in 880 compatibles be the same as
inks for the R220 compatiables I wonder.

Regards

Pete
Don't know about the constituent differences between the Epson original inks
and the compatibles (if any). Apart from the original inks that used to come
with the printers, I have always used compatibles (or refilled) and have
done quite a few 'art' type prints (not done much on the actual photo side
though) and no problems with fading, even with prints that have been framed,
glazed an hung in a shop.

Mind you most of the stuff I produce is from pen and ink drawings (with the
odd watercolour or painting on porcelain) by a local artist and of course
they tend to be black and white or grayscale. I've been doing this for over
ten years now and she always keeps two copies of each drawing and so far not
one complaint about fading. Maybe I've been lucky in the compatibles I've
chosen but fading has never been a problem for me.

I've never used it, but I believe you can get a spray that will coat and
protect any valuable prints that you produce if you are really worried about
fading.

By the way using compatible inks does NOT invalidate your printer warranty.
I went from a Stylus 500 through to Stylus Photo 750 (with a 600, 640, 660
and 700 in between), all coutesy of a Dixons/PC World 3 year extended
warranty. The exchanges were all carried out by Epson (or their agents) and
never once was the use of compatibles ever used as an excuse not to replace
a printer.

Geoff
 
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Pete

Geoff said:
Don't know about the constituent differences between the Epson original
inks and the compatibles (if any). Apart from the original inks that used
to come with the printers, I have always used compatibles (or refilled)
and have done quite a few 'art' type prints (not done much on the actual
photo side though) and no problems with fading, even with prints that have
been framed, glazed an hung in a shop.

Mind you most of the stuff I produce is from pen and ink drawings (with
the odd watercolour or painting on porcelain) by a local artist and of
course they tend to be black and white or grayscale. I've been doing this
for over ten years now and she always keeps two copies of each drawing and
so far not one complaint about fading. Maybe I've been lucky in the
compatibles I've chosen but fading has never been a problem for me.

I've never used it, but I believe you can get a spray that will coat and
protect any valuable prints that you produce if you are really worried
about fading.

By the way using compatible inks does NOT invalidate your printer
warranty. I went from a Stylus 500 through to Stylus Photo 750 (with a
600, 640, 660 and 700 in between), all coutesy of a Dixons/PC World 3
year extended warranty. The exchanges were all carried out by Epson (or
their agents) and never once was the use of compatibles ever used as an
excuse not to replace a printer.

Geoff
Thanks a lot Geoff. Think I'll go for the R220.

regards

Pete
 

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