I guess its official - No Hotmail-Live Mail Support

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Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\)

Sssshh... beta chat... we can't say anything about beta chats can we? :blush:(

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Andre Da Costa said:
Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat,
because things going on between > the Hotmail and
Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and Windows Live
 
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Andre Da Costa [Extended64]

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Sssshh... beta chat... we can't say anything about beta chats can we? :blush:(

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Andre Da Costa said:
Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat,
because things going on between > the Hotmail and
Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and Windows Live
 
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Zack Whittaker \(R2 Mentor\)

Ooooh right :blush:$ Sorry...

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DGuess

Andre Da Costa said:
Well, it was answered in the newsgroup chat, because things going on
between the Hotmail and Outlook Express team support for Hotmail and
Windows Live Mail accounts has been discontinued. :(
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That's been a known issue for a long time. I've known it for a year. :)

The replacement for it, Windows Live Mail Desktop beta will support it, pop
and imap accounts as well as RSS feeds and retain newsgroup support.
http://spaces.msn.com/MoreThanMail shows a list of items it supports.
 
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Ramin

This is what I don't understand... you've called Windows Live Mail Desktop a
"replacement" to Windows Mail. And this is a view shared by many.

So, why doesn't Microsoft just ship Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta with
Windows Vista, instead of Windows Mail?

Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta would likely have a much larger user base
(compared to Windows Mail) by the time Windows Vista is RTM.

Cheers,
Ramin
 
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Steve Cochran

There needs to be a basic mail program that is installed with the OS.

I don't particularly want Hotmail or advertisements filling my computer up
with trash. I don't use hotmail and don't like ads, so I wouldn't use the
WLMD much at all. If you like ads, then you should love WLMD.

Its NOT a replacement for Windows Mail or OE, its a separate mail entity
that has much of the same functionality that will be in Vista Windows Mail.

steve

Durn insert bug is still there.
 
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Ramin

Steve, have you forgotten MSN & Hotmail subscribers who are paying for
e-mail without ads?

I am an MSN subscriber and I don't see any ads on my @msn.com or
@hotmail.com accounts (and MSN Spaces is also ad-free for MSN subscribers).
So, this has nothing to do with ads.

Windows Vista's "basic mail program" could have had Hotmail support either
installable/uninstallable as a Windows Component (via Control Panel - Add or
Remove Programs) and HTTP/WebDAV functionality could be enabled/disabled by
the Administrator/Group Policy.

Microsoft releasing two e-mail programs (which sound confusingly similar)
that are essentially doing the same thing is definitely a mistake in my
opinion.

Cheers,
Ramin
 
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PA Bear

Ramin said:
Microsoft releasing two e-mail programs (which sound confusingly similar)
that are essentially doing the same thing is definitely a mistake in my
opinion.

Windows Mail is an email application specific to Windows Vista.

Windows Live Mail is next-generation Hotmail (webpage access).

Windows Live Mail Desktop is a downloadable Mail Client which will be
usuable in WinXP, Win2K, Win2K03, and Vista. You might consider it OE7
downloadable.

Yes, the names are /very/ confusing.
 
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Steve Cochran

Hi Ramin,

My expertise does not extend to hotmail and MSN accounts.

cheers,

steve
 
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Ben Macrow

I have a feeling Live Mail Desktop could end up maybe as a pay app, as dont
MS currently charge for outlook express/outlook access to their hotmail
accounts.

Ben
 
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Zack Whittaker

I promise you, it won't be a premium service. Windows Live is about keeping
things free and in competition with other rivalling companies :blush:)

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Zack Whittaker

There will be two versions - Windows Live Mail Desktop will have
advertisements for standard users, however MSN Premium subscribers will be
able to activate an option *within the same application* which will remove
the adverts.

There will be only 1 single download - by standard will have advertisements,
but with a Premium subscription, easy to turn them off. Hope this clears it
up :blush:)

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