I can't network with my other PC...help...i've tried everything I

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like the header says, I have tried, pulled my hair: still can't get it..
here is what I have: my pc w/xp pro connected to a wired router to the
internet, my other PCs (kids & wife) connected to the same router.
My previous pc (w/window2000) networked fine, accessed printers connected to
wife's PC, saw kids PC etc.
now: nothing, actually when I try to see other computers in my network
(after setting it up w/matching workgroup name:default mshome) I get this
message:
"Mshome is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network
resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have
access permissions.
The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available"
what am I doing wrong?
help...anyone, 5 weeks of agony...take me out of my misery!...
Vincent
 
like the header says, I have tried, pulled my hair: still can't get it..
here is what I have: my pc w/xp pro connected to a wired router to the
internet, my other PCs (kids & wife) connected to the same router.
My previous pc (w/window2000) networked fine, accessed printers connected to
wife's PC, saw kids PC etc.
now: nothing, actually when I try to see other computers in my network
(after setting it up w/matching workgroup name:default mshome) I get this
message:
"Mshome is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network
resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have
access permissions.
The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available"
what am I doing wrong?
help...anyone, 5 weeks of agony...take me out of my misery!...
Vincent

Vincent,

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.
Identify operating system (by name and version) with each ipconfig listing.

Are you running both Client for Microsoft Networks, and File and Printer Sharing
for Microsoft Networks (Local Area Connection - Properties), on each computer?
Do you have shares setup on each?

Are you running NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP
- Properties - Advanced - WINS) on each computer?

Make sure the browser service is running on each computer. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started.

On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With a Win
XP Pro computer on the LAN with a Win 2K computer, you need to have SFS properly
set.

The Win 2K computer uses Advanced File Sharing, so disabling Simple File Sharing
on the XP computer makes sense.

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to
"Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a
common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it
an identical, non-blank password on all computers.

On XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, simply make sure that the Guest
account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest with Start - Run - "cmd" -
type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window.

Is the XP computer SP2 or pre SP2?

Do either of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third party)?
If so, you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP 139,
445 and UDP 137, 138, 445, by enabling the File and Printer Sharing exception,
and / or by identifying the other computers as present in the Local (Trusted)
zone. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of (network) browser, and
file sharing, problems.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
Chuck, thank you for responding.
here is what I get from run/cmd ipconfig:


Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : VINCENT

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : .rr.com



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : .rr.com

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-D2-BA-10

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.103

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.160.42

66.75.160.41

66.75.160.37

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, October 13, 2004
6:20:20 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, October 14, 2004
6:20:20 PM

will work on the rest of the homework you gave me...!!!
 
Chuck,

I followed your advice here are my responses (in BOLD for ease of reading)
Are you running both Client for Microsoft Networks, and File and Printer Sharing
for Microsoft Networks (Local Area Connection - Properties), on each computer?
Do you have shares setup on each?
YES

Are you running NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP
- Properties - Advanced - WINS) on each computer?
NO there is no address there (its blank, I can add one but don't know which
one
Make sure the browser service is running on each computer. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started.
YES & NO: they were both started but TCP/IP print server is NOT
On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled.
IT WAS ENABLED SO I LEFT AS IS


With a Win
XP Pro computer on the LAN with a Win 2K computer, you need to have SFS properly
set.

The Win 2K computer uses Advanced File Sharing, so disabling Simple File Sharing
on the XP computer makes sense.
I do not use my old win2K pc other PC have XPhome (I have XP pro)
On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves". YES IT WAS

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to
"Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a
common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it
an identical, non-blank password on all computers.
i AM LEAVING THE FILE SHARING AS SIMPLE FILE SHARING
On XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, simply make sure that the Guest
account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest with Start - Run - "cmd" -
type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window. DONE

Is the XP computer SP2 or pre SP2?
I update with windows regularly & the dell came with the SP2
Do either of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third party)?
If so, you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP 139,
445 and UDP 137, 138, 445, by enabling the File and Printer Sharing exception,
and / or by identifying the other computers as present in the Local (Trusted)
zone. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of (network) browser, and
file sharing, problems.
THE ONLY FIREWALL WE HAVE IS THE ONE PROVIDED BY THE ROUTER (LYNKSYS) 7
WINDOWS RECENT SECURTY FIREWALL SOFTWARE UPDATEfrom my kid#1 he sees his brother's pc (adress:) \\michel\shareddocs but I
dont & when I type the address it does not see it
im frustrated...i think I will buy an external hardrive, backup my important
stuff, reformat & reinstall XP
(what is the cleanest/effective command to reformat?)

tHANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP,
Vincent
 
Chuck,

I followed your advice here are my responses (in BOLD for ease of reading)

NO there is no address there (its blank, I can add one but don't know which
one


IT WAS ENABLED SO I LEFT AS IS


With a Win
I do not use my old win2K pc other PC have XPhome (I have XP pro)
i AM LEAVING THE FILE SHARING AS SIMPLE FILE SHARING
I update with windows regularly & the dell came with the SP2
THE ONLY FIREWALL WE HAVE IS THE ONE PROVIDED BY THE ROUTER (LYNKSYS) 7
WINDOWS RECENT SECURTY FIREWALL SOFTWARE UPDATE
from my kid#1 he sees his brother's pc (adress:) \\michel\shareddocs but I
dont & when I type the address it does not see it
im frustrated...i think I will buy an external hardrive, backup my important
stuff, reformat & reinstall XP
(what is the cleanest/effective command to reformat?)

tHANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP,
Vincent

OK, Vincent,

To start, please enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP. TCP/IP doesn't support named file
sharing - you need NBT as an interface between TCP/IP and (Client for Microsoft
Networks, and File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks). Enable NBT on
both computers, using Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP - Properties -
Advanced - WINS.

Next, you need both mentioned services - Computer Browser, and TCP/IP NetBIOS
Helper - running for the browser subsystem to list shares.

Finally, if you have one computer running XP Home, and one running XP Pro, then
ask yourself whether you trust the owner of the XP Home computer. If you have
no problems sharing everything shareable, on the XP Pro computer, with the owner
of the XP Home computer, then you can enable Simple File Sharing on the XP Pro
computer. Just remember to enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd"
- type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window, on both computers.

OTOH, if you want to protect some shared data from the owner of the XP Home
computer, then you need to disable SFS. And then setup and use a common
non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it an
identical, non-blank password on all computers.

Regardless, all shared data on the XP Home computer will be visible to
everybody.

More about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
 

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