I can't get my computer to work with my router.

T

Terry Terry

I know I am just forgetting something, but I don't know what.
I was having connection problems with my working network. I called
the cable company to complain, and they suggested I plug my computer
directly into the modem.

I did that, but I had to change the settings I had to assign it a
static ip back to automatic. That lets my computer connect to the
internet again. The problem did not go away, so I want to put the
computer back on the router.

When I plug the computer into the router and enter my old settings
back, it will not access the internet. It will talk to the other
machines but not connect.

Also something else I notice is the when I am connected straight to
the internet I have one network connection. It says local area
network.

When I plug back in my router another connection appears that says
"internet connection" What am I forgetting?

Thanks for your time
 
J

John Wunderlich

I know I am just forgetting something, but I don't know what.
I was having connection problems with my working network. I called
the cable company to complain, and they suggested I plug my computer
directly into the modem.

I did that, but I had to change the settings I had to assign it a
static ip back to automatic. That lets my computer connect to the
internet again. The problem did not go away, so I want to put the
computer back on the router.

When I plug the computer into the router and enter my old settings
back, it will not access the internet. It will talk to the other
machines but not connect.

Also something else I notice is the when I am connected straight to
the internet I have one network connection. It says local area
network.

When I plug back in my router another connection appears that says
"internet connection" What am I forgetting?

Thanks for your time

Why do you assign a fixed IP when connected to your router? Most
routers incorporate DHCP. If you assign a fixed IP, then you must
correctly configure the Gateway and DNS settings as well.

Bring up a command window and enter the command:
ipconfig /all
and post the results back here. That will give us some insight. The
Brand/Model number of the router might help some, too.

-- John
 
T

Terry

Why do you assign a fixed IP when connected to your router? Most
routers incorporate DHCP. If you assign a fixed IP, then you must
correctly configure the Gateway and DNS settings as well.

Bring up a command window and enter the command:
ipconfig /all
and post the results back here. That will give us some insight. The
Brand/Model number of the router might help some, too.

-- John

The reason I assign ip addresses is that I use WinMx and I have to
open ports for it.

I have 3 machines here at home and I don't keep them all running.

This is with the single computer plugged into the internet. No
router.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Main
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 CT
Network Connect
ion
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-48-8A-6A-F0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.190.168.246
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 66.190.168.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.26.96.132
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.197.160.17
24.197.160.18
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, October 08, 2007
8:06:04 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, October 09, 2007
7:33:19 PM


C:\Documents and Settings\Terry>
 
T

Terry

Why do you assign a fixed IP when connected to your router? Most
routers incorporate DHCP. If you assign a fixed IP, then you must
correctly configure the Gateway and DNS settings as well.

Bring up a command window and enter the command:
ipconfig /all
and post the results back here. That will give us some insight. The
Brand/Model number of the router might help some, too.

-- John


The router is a DLink WRT54GS
 
J

James Egan

This is with the single computer plugged into the internet. No
router.

Windows IP Configuration

<snip>

You need to post the details of the configuration which isn't working
ie. when using the router.


Jim.
 
T

Terry

--
FrankO



I use this router and go with automatic DHCP.


One thing I did notice is that when I plug in the router, the
"internet connection" in the network connections setup is listed as
"disabled"

The "internet connection" is not even on the list without plugging the
computer into the router.

This is what the ipconfig lists. The first set is with no router and
the second set is when the computer is plugged into the router.


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Main
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 CT
Network Connect
ion
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-48-8A-6A-F0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.190.168.246
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 66.190.168.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.26.96.132
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.197.160.17
24.197.160.18
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, October 08, 2007
8:06:04 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, October 09, 2007
7:33:19 PM


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Main
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 CT
Network Connect
ion
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-48-8A-6A-F0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.197.160.17
24.197.160.18
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, October 08, 2007
10:42:27 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, October 09, 2007
10:42:27 P
M
 
J

James Egan

This is what the ipconfig lists. The first set is with no router and
the second set is when the computer is plugged into the router.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Main
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 CT
Network Connect
ion
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-48-8A-6A-F0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.197.160.17
24.197.160.18

This is a working dhcp configuration. You already said it was a static
ip configuration that didn't work. That's what you need to post.
Details when it isn't working.


Jim.
 
J

John Wunderlich

One thing I did notice is that when I plug in the router, the
"internet connection" in the network connections setup is listed
as "disabled"

The "internet connection" is not even on the list without plugging
the computer into the router.

This is what the ipconfig lists. The first set is with no router
and the second set is when the computer is plugged into the
router.
[Tables Deleted]

When you connect to the Router, all the IP addresses for everything
connected to the Router (except modem) must be a 192.168.1.xxx address.
If you use DHCP, then "xxx" will automatically be ".100" and up. If
you assign static addresses, then you should make the "xxx" between .10
and .99. This applies for your printer as well. If you configure
Static addressing on your computer when using the router, then you also
must specify a Gateway Address of 192.168.1.1 and a DNS address of
either 192.168.1.1 or one of the DNS addresses shown in your IP Config
dump.

Hope this helps,
John
 
T

Terry

When you connect to the Router, all the IP addresses for everything
connected to the Router (except modem) must be a 192.168.1.xxx address.
If you use DHCP, then "xxx" will automatically be ".100" and up. If
you assign static addresses, then you should make the "xxx" between .10
and .99. This applies for your printer as well. If you configure
Static addressing on your computer when using the router, then you also
must specify a Gateway Address of 192.168.1.1 and a DNS address of
either 192.168.1.1 or one of the DNS addresses shown in your IP Config
dump.

Isn't .10 and .100 then same in computer language?

I went the other way. My router assigns at .100, .101

Trying to count starting at 0 just isn't natural to me.

I used 110, 120, 130 for mine.

Anyway, thanks to this group, I have my machine working again.

Thanks everyone
 
S

smlunatick

Isn't .10 and .100 then same in computer language?

I went the other way. My router assigns at .100, .101

Trying to count starting at 0 just isn't natural to me.

I used 110, 120, 130 for mine.

Anyway, thanks to this group, I have my machine working again.

Thanks everyone

IP addresses start at .1 and end at .254. You can not use .0.

..10 and .100 are two different addresses. They do not give the same
result when the IP address is translated to "machine" code that the
network / Interent use.
 
J

John Wunderlich

Isn't .10 and .100 then same in computer language?

In an IP address, one is "ten" and the other is "one hundred". The
period is strictly a delimiter, not a decimal point.
I went the other way. My router assigns at .100, .101

Trying to count starting at 0 just isn't natural to me.

I used 110, 120, 130 for mine.

Anyway, thanks to this group, I have my machine working again.

OK. That will work. But you chose the DHCP area to assign fixed
addresses. One day the DHCP server function in the router will serve-
out one of those addresses and you will have an address conflict. I
would recommend disabling the DHCP function of your router if you keep
these addresses.

I'm glad you're working again.

-- John
 

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